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most our approach for me to consider initially
historical development but as domestic institutions in for cultures india tibet china japan and we'll look at how those institutions influenced the host cultures and orange are influenced by them with a view
to really lay a foundation or discussion would probably commence friday evening and then continue for the balance of the conference
issues a more contemporary relevance to listen space
let me introduce the gentleman before you ah
charitable of the shape gonna a gorilla shape robert the back
each a vote is developed teacher
has been expanded sense of humor so the company just pleasurable well as instructive
the sydney by was trying to pull the laboring or yeah it was overview of the monastic district will go til nine o'clock and at that point consider whether we like to go war the cedar rapids because as
this is flexible program in recognition of great principle everything changes
so so the extend anyone has signed up and has not yet done the deal was made plays catch me later just receive direct
okay so thank you be off so tonight i'm going to mainly talk and russia limitation i get the role of looking wise
i have already told during the shave more or less what i'm going to mentioned tonight i hope to shock everybody to start out this conference and discussion is not just that i want to hug up the entire discussion although i will be quite capable of doing that have been known to just stay but i don't wanna do that this company because i very much one rocio dmimages remarks about this and
want you to hear that i want to hear that myself and average i actually have been talking about this study for a number of years but on never had i feel that it's necessary to start off with a little bit of but still have slightly force for set of arguments just sort of generate a discussion because the perspective that i want to put on the table in the context of considering that possibilities for a man
second buddhism is i think somewhat unusual recently i gave a talk at dia at a peace conference in the rochester's and center in a context of both that sense that are and also context of sort of this latest late movement in so-called peace activism in people's interest in sort of you're worth this fellowship
and these activists of this type of thing and pick two people were kind of surprised by this perspectives and i've seen perhaps you will see perhaps why
the basic thrust of the mice jesus which i will present in the form of ten propositions which i will then unpack some of them and then depending upon a time maybe i'll just by the real family or i can formally read it i have a few hundred fish
i don't think we can get through that tonight
but we can backing up these ten pcs you know but i will do i do some of them and hopefully we will we will generate a lot of discussion a lot of thought because the basic pieces of it is that monasticism shakyamuni buddha's founding of the monastic institution was a revolutionary act that the most revolutionary institution
in society is truly revolutionary institution in human societies in our history is the monastic institutions and therefore that monasticism is in fact the most powerful catalyst for social change that anybody has yet invention and and that therefore the case of american buddhism until we get real monasticism really going here we have any
heartland gotten buddhism going here as far as is true society changing impact goes so well as you can see the peace activists who are thinking in terms of marching on the u n and attacking the nuclear submarine installations isn't what they were a bit frustrated by this approach and invite be more activists for them to build a real monastery and really engage in monastic tr
raining and really perform a revolution in their own individual minds that that that might be ultimately more average there they're a bit frustrating to hear about and so we engaged in some debate which we haven't finished and hopefully you won't have to feel like this to soon before you get really going to top tier one nine questions or have observations as you speak with you
right after a little while i think maybe i should go through this first or we used to go and then when we have sort of the basic overview of and then yes sure of people should interrupt or or of course if somebody feels overwhelming to actually i must object at any stage than they should do so that was that will just a that'll just give us more fuel more counter for the mill
now i want to i want to read these ten g seeds which i can say ten pcs which i will read them one by one has to explain a little bit and international backers to in more detail what are two of them
in more detail okay the first one number one sees this number one
enlightenment transcends all dichotomy is and is just as powerful therefore in the social realm as it is transformative in personal experience the core insight of selfless emptiness is simultaneously in an embrace of the inexorable related us of
the selfless individual to all others nagar chennai express this in his famous phrase shown yeah tax cut under i got a bum on dependent on needs a new budget or in english emptiness the womb of compassion that the realization of transcendent non dual emptiness is simultaneous
seriously a realization of the total interrelatedness of all things as roshi she was very ably described to us earlier today
that's the first day for the first thesis is the ways the most important fundamental that since enlightenment transcends all dichotomy is it cannot be possible that enlightenment of buddhahood could possibly ignore the social realm that is the realm of other beings the realm of relativity that could be some sort of solipsistic escape into a vacuum worldwide
this is completely impossible that it should be such a thing
so therefore although it's not easy to understand it and buddha's enlightenment must have just as radical and impact on the social environment on human history as it had on checking money himself personally
second thesis buddhahood is thus far more than political chakravarty conqueror hood emperor who and world emperor of what that is it is the complete truth conquest of the whole world the creation of the pure buddha land through the are those the info
goldman of the land appears to take time from the perspective of the unenlightened people trapped in ordinary time or history
now to impact or just very briefly buddhahood is more than political world emperor of what does you know when the buddha was born baby daddy took him to the local or the local sage came by and looked at him and said this boy will either be a techno hockey raja that means or world emperor or he will be a perfect buddha
and as you remember the father was most opting for the world emperor
director and much a bullet problems as they used came from his follows insisting that his son become a world emperor but bradshaw and buddha is that is was not often known people usually shrink and the great thesis about buddhism that is reflected in most scholarship on buddhism in asia and most people's attitudes and i daresay even in million buddhists attitude about buddhism
is that by turning away from the throne that the buddha gave up the world as a bad lot as a total loss and simply turned away from it to some realm of individual fulfilment
but if people look more carefully at the story for example when the buddha refuses the throne when he tells his father that he his father says now but i'm going you have had a son now so you're going to be coordinated to few days i'm going to retire and the buddha has said well i want to go and military the was retained lightman the follow said that's very nice son
but in fact i want to go with the was in ten life because and according to our indian system you have to stay in the office until your grandson has more than you can go on to enlightenment and therefore now i've been in office while you grew up and now i've been king and i'm tired of being king i'm going to go now and meditated the woods so buddha i was sort of breaking the time scale of indian society and he was
i'm ruining his father's retirement and unpleasant think there's a i said okay yeah i don't want to be mean to my father i like you and you've brought me up after all so i will be king is you just give me some advice on how to run the kingdom properly and it's about sure so i'll be happy to work and i advise you said well as i've looked over the situation two miles
subjects your subjects major problems seem to be the sufferings of birth sickness old age and death so please tell me which bureaucracy which the government agency can i developed to satisfy those problems if i can conquer those problems for them i'll be happy to run the kingdom
the follows it locked it out tomorrow
this is not our role we just making an army and ground and fight the enemy and it isn't that we don't know but that's the problem there that i'm not being a decent king if all i can do is take care of what are not my subjects real problems they are real problem is none who is the neighboring king a real problem is not this they're real problem is birth sickness old age and death so i'm gonna go find out
how to help them deal with those problems then i'll be happy to run the kingdom this those discussion between what his father is not so well-known so in other words but i was not abandoning his subjects he was not abandoning the kingdom at all in fact he was going to find out how to deal with their real problems so that when he returned he returned to do something more acts
extensive for those subjects than merely be their king if there is something more still therefore his buddhahood is more far reaching and planetary history as a greater impact on society than chakravarty conqueror one that has then being a world emperor and usually we think of it on the president you know jerry brown are used to be jerry brown now add some other kinds of doesn't know his name but anyway we
think of these people as big a powerful important people affecting people's lives but by this logic to put us for enlightenment must affect people's lives more powerfully and therefore our task is to try to discover how then we come up with the contact can concept of truth conquest and this is a concept that comes from the emperor ashoka several hundred years after the bhutto's death whereas joke
a after he gave up military conquest of the of the india he said no longer will i conquered by the sword conquest by the sword is a bad kind of conquest it leads people resentful and all they wanted to is rise up and overthrow their conquer and everyone is very unhappy but besides that people get killed in the process and so i give that up instead i will conquer biden
roma he that he had this notion determine vijaya conquest by tournament and dharma meaning truth or liberating truth dharma meeting nirvana dharma meaning reality or something like that so they are at called dharma meaning insight and understanding so usually a showcase considered the one to have begun very concept but in my argument by
theaters i want to say that it's the buddha who began that concept and he wanted to conquer by truth the whole world now remember that in my anna buddhism the universal vehicle buddhism and a bodhisattva vows not to become a buddha until all beings have been saved
and therefore i bought i can i become a buddha without transforming their whole society and to have put our land their society to find out just as the human beings they're interconnected with but all living beings that they are aware of in the infinite reaches of space and therefore shakyamuni buddha to obtain buddhahood would have to have transformed the universe and especially just planet totally
in fact it doesn't look like that to the perspective of ordinary people who are on enlightened perhaps but it is our task can understanding jackie believe to not just simply sent to the ordinary appearance but to see how it might operate on of more extraordinary level
so the third just district know that experience i think the second is somewhat now the third thesis the buddhist compassion is expressed as the ultimate artistry of transformation of the planet which unfolds progressively through history as the process of the taming of violence by nonviolence
what we all know of as the advance of civilization
and here in this photo lansing i'm reminded of a thing event happens in the vimalakirti sutra which many of you must have read where the buddha just the buddha has asked by some young citizens of the town of by shelley sort of a kind of san francisco of the day all these dapper young people come out to see that buddha and they say but how does
the bodhisattva perfect the buddha land how does the of stuff that transform the universe that means because the buddhist have of our we know islam is a messianic was about to save or beings to transform the whole environment so the buddha says gives this long story that the size but does this does that or hello
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thank you so he gives this long story about how the boris that was gonna land is such a perfect land that at once he has he has been so generous and his lines as a buddhist sutra at once he is in borderlands the movie universe is such that all beings totally don't own anything they all give everything away to everyone
else so therefore everyone is infinitely rich because everyone is giving everyone else all of their possession so it's a very very complicated business of constant enter exchange and into transformation and he gives such a long description of a buddha land how are going to land is what is a on and then sarah culture has this what he finishes this law is as therefore the perfection of a bot isn't possible or man when the bot
sort of becomes buddha is the perfection of the buddha's mind the bullets that was mined just same load the firemen and low flow in it i put your then things wait a minute
the person was is perfect and ah haha this year as a buddha who is talking the ah ha and therefore this land should be as perfect as the buddha's enlightenment is perfect and ah and this land looks to me like a pile of crap eparchy literally says it's the or i think i translated as or duress some a euphemism basically says
this land looks like a pile of crap therefore i don't want to put of says is false or when shakyamuni buddha was a bodhisattva he was lazy crappy versa
he's not comfortable at all and either of these songs he's extremely uncomfortable with it and so he doesn't express it of course regretfully the buddha has clairvoyance and reading people's my to as suddenly enforce the i butcher was sitting there looking and rehabilitation and just trying not to show that he's thinking this nasty thing about his teacher who the ceremony buddha
no matter who says sorry putra
as if the fault of the sun and moon that those blind from birth do not see them all over us that it's son whose fault and this goes on and so once and then bama that god brahma comes in school his job which also caused article tries really sweating there and then they put it takes is for and puts this big jar on the ground and for moment everyone in the entire assembly
sees the whole universe the whole environment is totally perfect they see their own body made as jewel substance they see them some seated in june lotuses on jul zappos all totally floating in perfect device of space of samadi and total ocean of enlightenment without a single problem without a single imperfection in the perfect environment perfect your land of a place to have to
a perfect enlightenment they suddenly see this for a brief moment no more problem of you know there's no money for the zones and or not
no army and nothing no for today by perfect everything is perfect all made of perfect jewels julian living jewel plasma substance the whole plant and they've got or then he says
investors are putra he says how do you like my put of analogy i put it always is but it isn't something i never even imagined could exist this is tremendous and so you see i go to it was always like this but your mind was full of imperfection and ordinariness so you saw it as an ordinary put off he said oh right temperature
then he picks up his put it it looks back and same crappy five hundred bc lousy india
although i was actually the richest country in the world and that china is much richer like california those but still it's still basically bit grubby on full of like lousy warriors and armies and shot videos and samurai and crazies and so forth
so this is a tremendous puzzle this is my and sutra this is not some kind of like funny because this this is a my other suit
and this is the problem with their faces us all that isn't it the problem of the purification of perception here we are we think this is some grubby players in the nuclear bombers about the fall but yet there is a minor but it's claim that this world has already been ashamed to say he's been saved saved by sakyamuni buddha
that the world has already been developed into a perfect land that therefore this is the perfect environment the perfect space and the perfect history for us to achieve our enlightenment we haven't come two thousand and five hundred years later from our perspective from shakyamuni put perspective are coming is perfectly part of his vision because time and space are all perfectly wrapped in one perfectly well
functioning time machine or common chakra is that tibetans say wheel of time which informs all beings into the borders enlightenment if it just takes a few thousand years there's nothing it all every moment is president every moment in the vision of a buddha
so so from that this is number three therefore follows that the a buddhist compassion is not just something all i wish beings were happy but gr degas is around i was terrible know but rather it's a compassion that is effective that actually works to develop the environment perfectly for beings to be liberated and expressed as the ultimate artist
story of transformation of the entire planet which unfolds progressively through history as the process of the taming of violence by nonviolence what we all know of as the advance of civilization and this is the vision this is really the time wheel of time type of vision actually number three series is based really on the wheel of time vision the vision that to put out which is twenty four hours
was and his forehead is and his than his certain kind of like a vision that he showed in south india in the esoteric sense this magical form that i bought i sort of the sort of fully involved in evolution of beings there's no bullet disappearing anywhere that the put out body is everywhere and is specifically involved well as the best specific involvement with the evolution of a plan
and full of beings without any waste
so this vision like that but we're not really looking just at that vision that sort of perfection gland vision of history in the general we want to come down for that back and back to back into what their history so then thesis number for then goes this way true now that truth conquest or buddha of and building them before can only proceed nonviolent
lee since individuals can only be conquered from the inside as it were from their own hearts by their own free understanding they are insight itself is what liberates the energy of the general good will that constitutes the perfected land so therefore a borderline building and tooth conquest is the
funny one you see this idea of buddha bullets compassion being the most powerful force in the universe love and compassion with the most powerful for the universe is very similar to the theistic vision of a god of course which the maya has often been said to have been the demonisation process of put western scholars they say it all the time and so it's very close to that and so then the quest
one who cut does comes as the artistic question you'll get in western theology is or theistic northwestern also indian theistic geology also get his well as to put us protection is so powerful why did you just put a toe down why did you just make the world of perfect environment for enlightenment practice for a moment with as to down lets you pick it his talk for
it had turned back in time that's why all these needless untimely death while this this horrible holocaust and he's dead babies and all this mess and earthquakes and landslides and tsunami is what is the purpose of all of them but they're the problem there the difference between what does the ministry as ticketing comes in that nobody ever claimed that would have made the world to start with a
it has no power to just transform everybody else to put up because people can only become of when they themselves understand their own selflessness it's the ultimate lovely paradoxical marvellous irony although and totally paradoxical and yet of course totally illogical nothing illogical about
we're all totally selfless that have no self and only we ourselves can understand our selflessness
it's pretty obvious real who else can know it's the who else can understand your selflessness for you who else can eat your dinner for you know but i'm going to be prepared to have to eat it but i can prepare the dinner of shunyata of emptiness and selflessness we ourselves have to realize that we ourselves only way we can do so
so therefore this truth conquest can only be nonviolent in the sense that you cannot force someone into understanding
kind of force someone into into giving a gift for example if you force them you've taken it away from them it's not a gift people can only give a gift freely
forcing them takes away their opportunity of game giving the gift
forcing them into to understanding or attempting to takes away their opportunity of realizing their surfaces
so fifth process than fifty system this leads to which says hence perfect buddha's must carry on their truth conquest by means of education in the liberal or liberating sense which is neither indoctrination nor training
the inside of psychological selflessness has been the inexhaustible source of the creative individualism buddhism has always nurtured in all societies this has also been deliberate or of the world transforming dynamism of the ethical selflessness that has adorned the history of buddhist societies
that is to say that therefore how do you help people to gain insight only by education and education here and especially deliberating sense where education doesn't mean brainwashing or indoctrinating them to just the doctor belief system and distance buddhism is not simply religion a religion defined at least in the modern way of defining religion as a belief system or simple system
since buddhism does not achieve its goal in the individual's heart by them adopting a belief system just by believing their subsidiary one belief system for another belief system the structure of the leaf and individually egotistical appropriation of a symbol is still left intact buddhism only operates in a way by curing the sickness of of as an autistic or fanatic
conviction and adherence to belief systems to dies that's as negotiate it says shunyata damages to put a you oh but i taught our as the medicine for the sickness of force of of of convictions of fanatic convictions to have whoever adopts shunyata as a fanatic conviction is unfortunately incurable by
therefore therefore buddhism you we see it as to see how buddhism is not really just a religion but rather a system of education system of space within which beings can bring out their own highest potentials in the ideal of liberal education or liberating education where the being as they are not to learn some body of knowledge but you freed ourselves and not as a neither in the are
via of training and like some kind of robot or rats that has trained like the havens i'm certain slip away but in a way of where their own ability of is brought out to the fourth and that is why the buddhist truth conquest has been a process of education of civilization education of ultimately planetary education and this kind of education because of the power of the
education the power of the teachers effect that is not that difficult to realize selflessness that fact people already somewhere know that there are selfless that they can easily realize that their little ego business is really a big big exaggeration pretty easily their big fuss over themselves and therefore once they realized that and they really strengthen and confirmed that realization through story through his
three through legend through meditation that then they are more he they can affect easily transcend themselves in action and act selflessly and act transcended lee and therefore those stories about the bodhisattvas that used to drive my sanskrit teacher crazy about all these goody goodies as you call them that used to drive them nuts how can there be somebody really good is used to hit the buddhist literature is not simply
a fantasy or an exaggeration but they're truly worth so many made beings who could actually give their bodies give their lives give themselves completely away for for nonviolence for out of generosity and out of tolerance
now we see all the instinct for survival don't know nobody can do that that's part of our indoctrination that we shouldn't do that in fact people do give themselves away even today they're easily trade in boot camp next minute they're kind of concerts or they're driving some tank up and down the vietnam jungle and giving their lives out of to hate easily trained for hate to give their lives
how come they can be easily trained for loved effect it can if such an education systems such as society becomes civilized enough to develop in boot camp and education system to teach them how to do so is boot of course i'm coming around to it is the buddhist monastery is the buddhist sunday that is what is the boot camp
the educational institution this is this brings us therefore to number six the educational institution put our founded is the precious community the sangha now functioning on the moral spiritual and intellectual levels as the anchor of the new ethics the new religions and the new science
is that have all grown up or been loosely known as buddhism
and that glug or add ons number seven monasticism is decor of that new community and is an original invention of the buddha it is the institutionalization of transcendental istick individualism societies acknowledgement that it's highest interest is
the self fulfillment of its individuals
you get that are read was more than and package very important point that key point monasticism is the institutionalization of trade center desk transcendental istick individualism societies acknowledgement that it's highest interest is the self fulfillment of its individuals
and that's not an easy thing for society to realize of course societies think that's their collective interests of course is always higher than that individuals in interest tribal societies for example are characterized as tribal because they submerged in in simple minded anthropology because they submerge as a sort of stereotype because this asked the individual's self id
listen to be submerged within the good of the whole therefore the individual has nothing to the whole modern tribal societies materialistic ones asked the individual to fling themselves into the furnace of war for some suppose that good of the whole mainly to misguided good have some dumb politician usually but it's supposed to be for the good of the whole
and therefore we fact we see both ancient and completely modern society is completely unable to tolerate this idea that tastes good a society is nothing but the good of its individuals and therefore that every one individual that is more important than the entire society and therefore the society has no right to ask any one individual to demand that individual to give up his life
that society has no right to kill any one of its individuals
but this is what monasticism means for society to accept institutional monasticism means that it has to accept that it's individuals are more important than it
for example integration as book in india this is a shocking statement he says to the king after a long set of advice to this king who ran a huge empire in south india was his buddy how to run the kingdom most remarkable welfare state he describes the second century a d when it gets to the end of it he says to that
t says well your majesty i know that this would be great if you implement all of these things and people will be happy and your earth kingdom will flourish and you will karma your at best towards buddhahood as to put suffer by been so generous and so tolerant of or deeds and everything loeffler but in thank you very hard for you to implement this because people are imperfect and society never works right
the best thing actually you could do with your life of course your majesty it's to renounce your kingdom and become a monk and ten in latin
so even the king you know that sort of are the kings supposed to be the most compact self-sacrifice or in any society you know heavy lies the head that wears the crown and or well i don't want to do this but i have to do it in over the kingdom so of the idea that the collective well as expressed through the king makes the king and complete non individual and away ultimately the key
installation has to behave a certain way so the idea that even the king's role as king is less important than any one individual becoming enlightened proves that within that society is the idea has become accepted that a single individuals opening up of their boot up potential is the only most important thing for that society more important than winning such a territory one four
than their gross national product more important than their economic or military viability more important than anything
in modern terms we can say that this means that and you will see how far our society is from this this means that
the education budget of our country who should be the most important budget about the defense budget and it's to say that in fact it's not that you go to school for a few years to get to be a good producer a nice lawyer on nice bombmaker a nice politician and i dr baker butcher candlestick maker do something useful for the side of become a producer for product
but that actually the society as whole production and everything is geared so that any one of us can have a permanent lifelong fellowship in any school to develop all of our own abilities to the ultimate degree and that that is our national purpose what is our national freedom what does our national purposes only the education of our individuals and therefore only education marks the sub
foundation of a society so that educators are not servants of society innocence and their students or not they are learning how to serve society society is serving that they are activity is the core activity of the whole society
and you can see that's very far from our modern idea of education can see that there's to lose grain of it alive and what it's called liberal education
liberating education a tiny grain of it is their daddy that you could have for years to goof off and bring out your potential
then possible med school forget it back to work no bring out your potential and have to sneak off on vacation on sabbatical to some zen center and try to get a little potential a good to live for weekends but that society should support you for like you that shockingly shockingly decadent idea
but in those terms that it's one of our buddha was now that if we think that's difficult now to implement how about an ancient time
socrates was poisoned for talking to a few young potential army recruits in the bathtub the in the bathhouse there in athens about some philosophy getting their minds a little puzzles where they might get out of race and charging on the spartans they merely poison tipped the king of that country
confucius never got a job
he was chased around and everyone guys like tenure track then they kicked him out of one country after another was everywhere he went he was teaching civilization team madness ethical ness and the dumb duke's thought that this would ruin their country and the one time would almost got a job when i got one duke the duke of his own hometown lou to put him in business and to start
being just and kind and in liberal and intelligent and educate people and development in light and country
in this country increased in power and wealth and citizen happiness and inventiveness so fast at the neighboring duke we've developed a strategy to try to get confucius kicked out because he was afraid of the right competitiveness so he said in a bunch of dancing girls the bunch of play girls to entertain this do knowing that computers would become and says and leave town which she did
so this is the same era and this is the same here when shakyamuni buddha at marches downtown wearing we're at orange robe made up out of cemetery patchwork and a shaved head in a bowl
and comes downtown in this town town and magadan and sugar hand says he'd been basara it's time now we've had enough of this as is as yoga is having to live out in the bush peripheral to say now i want to do to make it known that any young person man or woman who wants to shave their head of brown robe and
some zazi in and learn a little morality and ethics and philosophy and develop a little analytic mind as well any person like that
who wants to put out shave off their head and put on this weird on jerome and grab a bowl should have a life long research and development scholarship from you think i'm sorry
it should be exempt from the draft should be exempt from their cast roles and duties should be exempt from their family obligations this includes the ladies and the dishes
we're gonna do that here's some lunch
hey lunch for life you guess how does you get away with act in that era fifth century bc they gave him central park
they didn't even have to go and work out in the bushes someplace they get central park to his monastery his first months was built in central park in the great city of travesty
it was bought by one merchant who covered every square inch of it with gold to buy it because the guy who owned and wouldn't sell it and prince and therefore it's not only and jokingly sneeringly said oh yeah you can have it if you covered with goal that merchants and ducks in front of witnesses and bought it
that them as a great one
if
finally the prince gave the last ten square feet
himself to get a little of americans thought he would hedge his bets
in any case how to just take place you see this is not an easy think sure there were people in the bushes there was a few brands in the bushes in their ashram in india was a rich society unlike europe and greek and they they've got olives cheese olives and goat cheese and of what and they are a little bitty dog between them and that's partners there wasn't that much to go around and that's why they were clanging around the bashing each other
as few fish you know feel little bit of retsina that sit in the i was still of mangoes and beautiful forest and milk who is the richest possible place you can have my life from california
and so and so they could afford to support unproductive people yes but still to go right downtown take out the draft core break up the caste society this was a rigid caste started like the all south it's like why i think it is late and want to be a monk can come in and nuances in the thing and shaved head and he has equal status in fact if he's there
year older or d older and ordination than a way to former owner he's superior that for one has to get up for him as disturb him as food how does he avoid being tarred and feathered destroyed this it's very difficult to imagine how that would have managed will never mind that the point is he did
and the point is therefore that's a very radical institution that he developed
and he had to do that because you couldn't come and say let's found founded know stanford university here business our historically know that together liberal or he had to have something that had a radical other world is sort of connection to it and had to like to be radically free institution for the individual and this was the monastic community and around this monastic unity over the centuries in india they are developed tremendous universities
and as we know that this monastic communities seven or eight hundred years later influenced the christians in mesopotamia iran and eventually egypt to begin to develop monasticism it embolden them this is fairly is not just bit controversial but it seems fairly likely because of the tremendous amount of communication and because of the seven hundred year priority of the buddhist money
mystic tradition that probably there was some influence on the early and cries in the desert the saddam is the first few studies and managed to survive in the baron middle east with a tyrannical kings we used to waste all sadness as we know that was there thing to do not like india they didn't tolerate sounders in in them in the mediterranean they wasted them so it took them seven hundred years longer to get up to where they could have
a monastery
whether they had to hide out some place in a cave
so this monasticism never had this very powerful revolutionary impact eventually on the whole world
ah okay so i think the institution and enough that that it's high sense from an interest is the self fulfillment of its individuals and think that's point of i think you've got a point
h described it as autism is a mediating institutions centrist in every sense midway between city and wilderness priest and hermit noble and commoner and indirectly providing both social cohesion and mobility
as were already met disgusted like how it functions sociologically if you study monasticism actually it has a very fantastic and great powerful role and it's a very transformative institution it like just as educational institutions are the most important interests of social change in any society which is why tyrannical rulers always kill the professors first day
do they shoot them right away in the old comedies mars they always destroy this idiot last this is the reason why because these are the instruments of social change individual fulfilment and so forth and in these endangered time for anchor their route in monastic institutions the monastic army so therefore otherwise one is for ago have a nice with thesis
it's main rival whose origin lies in the same era as this same fifth century sixth century bc is universalist tick imperialistic militarism as fanaticism as if you see monasticism there was a worldwide civilizing institution and is a secret army started by buddha of nonviolent warriors
and warrior s's heroes and heroines who were to go round the world and beyond violet a peaceful and i make king's allow them to sit and meditate and do kind things where people and allow people from all classes and then under oppressive family circumstances to come in and i've become educated and liberated and of what does you see this as a slow kind of institution spreading peaceful as and civilization
internationally as a commodity then you can see it as a kind of army a army of peace and army of nonviolence organized by a great general the great world country emperor who was to really even to be an obvious kind of single nation identified welcome the emperor and has became a planetary world truth conqueror but at the same time interesting
only of course the world conquering empires were all beginning this is the euro where you have the beginnings of of macedonia alexander the great you have the margaret and empire which became the first empire of india's century or so later beginning in the same area of india is that what have began in the same nation that first supported the buddhist sangha was the nation that became the imperial over all of india interesting they
the chinese empire the han empire from getting to its seeds are developing now and ending up in a few centuries later you get the han parents of what so world empire begins and militarism movement begins at the same time as the opposite team from the monastic army it is them army army the what we all know about
monasticism said here i get a little optimistic i say monasticism granger planetary success over all although the tail is not yet ended may be due to the human spirits basic sounders but it's also understandable in terms of monasticism natural alliance with mercantilism and the bureaucratic state and this is a complicated
pavement that means though that is not to cup get is pretty simple one way and that is that just another element of this iraq the fifth century bc in india was that the source of power was changing from being in the hands of the warrior class to be in the hands of the merchant class and the merchant class is a class that finds greater profit and benefits
in peace than a war because war both one side gets destroyed then the victor get some spoils but they wreck most of what they just what the conquer whereas in trade both sides can benefit and wealth can continuously expand and increase as so trade is actually long term more profitable than war for merchants and they and they are the ones who supported the buddhist
thunder interesting that this is not just something that flew in from outer space they the ones who supported the buddhist sangha and they always have supported the buddhist sangha and against tyrannical rulers and sort of military industrial military political complexes the merchants have always supported them in the past
finally the tenth level of diseases says which brings us to the conclusion of this thing and the beginning of the three hundred page book three phases of monasticism can be discerned in every culture in which it has exerted its influence the first phase is what i call revolutionary or radically dualistic impact
whereas monasticism creates kind of an alternative social world where when you're outside in the world you'd have to be tough and fight and follow your past dar monitoring way like i'm talking about india but inside the monastery you can be gentle and peaceful and sensitive of your neighbor and them violent and surrendering you can be you can do you can be tolerant of with
cmon you can be a woman you can do it is that are going alternative sphere of a different kind of manners which is presented as the separated from the world but of course since there's tremendous interconnection between it and the world and begins to have a slow civilizing impact on the world but yet coming in a subversive and invisible way in a sense where it's power
currently from a sort of otherworldly realm then tots
and so that's what i call the revolutionary are radically dualistic phase of monasticism where you drawing out energy out of the armies and out of the economies of these nations and you're putting that energy into self transcendence and you're putting it into people's conquest putting people's war your energy into the conflict of their own ignorance hatred and delusion and and greed
rather than in the congress of their neighbors
the second phase is what i call evolutionary or educative lee non dualistic and this is the phase i would say well as it has when the wants to my and arises in india and this is where monasticism is very pervasively entrenched as the establishment within society as it was in india of the first century bc and following
and where the monasticism serves us to the lake community by developing around itself a kind of university complex so that those who are not going to be full-time months can begin to educate themselves in a certain sense although the monks and nuns themselves develop the main energy of self transcendence that gives others the inspiration to do so in other spheres
finally the third phase is what i call fruition all phase of monasticism where it is pervasively non dualistic not just evolutionarily or an educationally not there's was domestic but pervasively non dualistic and that is where and it says the entire society becomes completely passer by where the entire society recognizes
that it's only role is to educate its own individuals that it's the precious human lives only main purposes to be used to to reach perfect enlightenment and that therefore the whole national treasure and energy of this study should be devoted to all of the individuals achieving enlightenment and therefore it says the whole nation becomes one huge monastery and this has never been achieved in any society is in
our tibet and mongolia
these are the only choose decided that i would say have become fully metastasized societies
and we can see that that's simply proven by the fact that in tibet in the time of its destruction as well as in mongolian the tower is destruction there was literally no army the main rival which was the military and political authority did not exist there was no army at all
and all of the available all of the excess manpower outside maintaining the family's just and womanpower power was in monastic institutions and the central institution the goal society where monastic institutions that in fact the monastic institutions that even produced the government and the monastic institutions the monastic bureaucracy was the political bureaucracies and the government never built a they never bought him his
rose they had a very low budget they never had a national deficit because they had no army to support they didn't bother much with the road system they simply supported they were there to collect a few taxes designed to keep the aristocrats the old former warlord families under control to keep them under control and to support the monks and nuns which is all that they didn't have big festivals
it was a truly party government
in fact run out on the portola a party party government and therefore of course the the kicker on that one is that of course no society is civilized or perfected until the planet is perfected and as decided it becomes so civilized just like it had happened to india in the tenth century a d nice nice tenth century idea when it became incredible
with team and civilized and women became incredibly free and that society more than ever since naturally just decided to become incredibly vulnerable to the more barbaric more rigid less sensitive more violence the is around them and they become invaded and conquered this has this is this happened to tibet recently as happened to change in india at that time where the camel dry
divers squadron from central asia came rushing down and destroy this beautiful lotus of a culture that had developed there
so that's that is that is the thesis which as i say i hope provokes a little bit of discussion little bit of rejection and then it's in bolivia to really link it up to today really strongly what it means therefore is that traditionally in america are traditionally in a and buddhist
terms but as talk about the spread of the dharma as the taming of the societies in which it goes just as they talk about the spread of our dharma in an individual's being as the taming of that individual the word for an individual who is that the word for disciple in buddhism is funnier which means a person who is tamed like a horse that can be
then family led away with the rain so funny the i means the taming teaching the teaching of the discipline of taming and when they talk about spreading and another constant talk about changing that culture there's a name for the put up meeting the ultimate tamer of human beings like a lion tamer you know a human team because they consider that a living being who kill
els other beings relevant except some small discomfort of themselves whenever they have a temper tantrum they want to kill somebody or something to be an untamed wild type of animal driven can possibly by their instincts of greed and hatred and therefore in buddhism sort of missionary a vision which it began actually in the history of world movements i want just say religious
because as i've said it's more than a religious movement it's a civilizing demo movement but it is thing his voice to role as that of taming or civilizing the planet
and you know a buddhist as well like some bullets in china's of buddhist in india and the seventeenth century said that she when are we going to get over to team those tibetans those wild and is up there or some guy and china but i said when you're going to go to tame those japanese so those wild warriors over there running around like with they're commies and having stored five day and night how we're going to overtake they want to send if few
photos over to the emperor and a few medicine buddha as and send out a couple of monks
and that's how they tamed these to silence in that terms we americans are not yet tamed i'm sorry to say we are untamed we are not yet civilized whatever we might think about our highways in our rooms it's clear that we're not get civilized because we hold nuclear blackmail threat over this entire planet not the russians we do
we have the bigger ones we build on first and bigger and better eisenhower did reagan does we elect them to do it too
and so we are not take we're in a naughty boys and girls of the planet want to consume all a lot of its energy and let them refugee around here and there and don't come over here and the mess around with our ice cream cones otherwise we'll nuke you
that's how we are behaving we're all a bunch of nation of strange loves there's no question about if a planet is doctor spock was to give a real candid discussion or from his spaceship of this planet this group of this country or they're nice they're free they are while it will leave but they're still out of civilized their whole murderous threat over the head of everybody else in the whole planet they
going to maintain colonial the last vestige of colonialist exploitation or they're going to blow the whole joint it's like a doomsday game
minerals i don't mean we wouldn't but with threatened if we would and with putting a lot of money into keeping the capability of doing so in place most of our money goes there how many zen centres and monsters can be built where they one missile costs for example therefore how can we be considered team
we are still wild
we thought the germans were kind of wild and way that they went off on their tribal istick trip is of the japanese were wild when they went back off did like conquer the world who we thought we were very righteously conquer them but we're just as why we are wilder because we're ready to blow the whole place up if it doesn't be according to our liking better dead than red
we can we think of white and blue who cares if we were team and civilized we can please tell repealed any multicolored we want to up
so therefore the process of tanning therefore they are in that traditional same view that says the nation as being tamed by the delma talking and very blunt and practical terms that is considered dead a dharma has not arrived in a society until i monastery has been built in that society
and it's very crystal is there any monastery in this society yet
at least a buddhist one
perhaps not yet
if we want to be very cosmic perhaps we could say that indirectly christian monasteries are promoting the same kind of nonviolent goals and then went to they are indirectly the buddhist monasteries this study so they are already there and the process is underway we can certainly feel say that and make an argument is a certain way in non academic stuff
and dharma circles but from our own buddhist point of view we have to say that there is no real monastery here
every day our centers yes meditation centers there are temples yes there are churches there are schools but a real monster real monastery means that the people support it for know utilitarian purpose
for no output is not because it's you know kipling people clean off the streets are keeping people off the streets or like you know because it's benefiting the neighborhood or because it's better than having little go not someplace or take drugs or because this or that will give a little piece of small change to them let them go and meditator keep them quiet
not for such utility a real monastery means that people can go there and be assured of support for life and honor and respect
for what they do and we can completely supported by everybody
people who support don't support it because see i want have a place near me where i can go meditate on weekends and calm down get away from my active neuroses they supported even if they never get to meditate that they supported because they want to support somebody else achieving enlightenment was that they have to slave away in their office all day long or not forget about their own karma they support it because there shouldn't be a completely free place in this case
entry in the wind is in a country in a civilized country this is the reason for this me that the acceptance of a monastery down the history of tibet for example it took two hundred years from when the first tibetan kings began to erect temples and put a bullet images and give dharma classes and have zen centres it took two hundred years for them to really have a real monastery
in fact it was said they have a wonderful myth where they the monastery was being built by just one king and he was exhausting is treasury because the national local deities you know the mountain deities the river deities the lake deities kept coming out and pulling the walls down at night he would have his has build up the walls and the day of his military and these nagas and davis and
the mountain dogs will come and pull them down at night why because they didn't want a piece of their land going to this completely free thing that was beyond their nation they didn't want something other than the cult of worship of them their tribal this idea know it's the national psyche wanted only is editing that furthers it's tribal power is what i want to not something that it
was beyond its control someplace that is it supported and it was free of its control in one such a place so then they had just so they indian head monk started actually the great abbott who was there trying to build that plays he had to leave even because the local shamans at the local tribal as were threatening threatening and they wouldn't want this transcendental as tourists who are trans now
national and i don't like our army and are in power in our glory and our blood sacrifices we don't want them so we have to leave but he's pension that this zadar is bodhidharma type of character this time of some bar would be summoned and promised them are bummer arrived and just like bodhidharma went straight to a mountain up behind the monasteries dread to a cave and disappeared ask for
view pooja materials some firewood and just mumbo jumbo way they are meditating in his cave after about six months the king was getting frantic as budget was getting worse and nothing was happening suppose a great guy was contain the local data is was doing nothing business runs up to the k promise of of when it gets to the cave what does he see she's a giant
garuda like a giant eagle fighting with a giant dragon and it was swallowing the dragon just a tale of the dragon was sticking out and then he says it gets frightened so we called police about bombers obama where are you at this point bombers symbolic transform back from being this giant eagle and then the dragon turned into a little snake lizard and creep the way
who and slithered away off into the bush to palmer some somebody and gave the king a heavy goals and what's the matter with you you asked me to clean up to see here if i allowed me to finish swallowing that dragon you'd never have had another problem now you can build your a monastery you'll be supported they have no problem but you'll pay the penalty later one hundred and fifty years later there was a bit of a reaction to
arrival istick reaction against it and there was a problem but in a case the next day the king went down to the shore of lake by the monastery and there was gould washed up on the shore by the nagas brought out from their underwater treasuries and the local data is rained down silver and gold and world and they brought timbers and stones and rocks and they built its use monastery
but the measures like that and this means that the people do not give up something to freedom get totally get it without how they i i have been somebody for a is this country and i have so many to talk to people who let's get together let's have a monastery let's raise some funds let's do it and then everybody's just quit amid i wanted to be on my back yard so i can go on weekends militate
although i don't want to do a monster at noon for my i can go
oh know everybody wants to use it for something everybody waste like you're going to be fit into their system of use nobody wants to just give it
for the use of others
nobody wants to just support others enlightenment at least even a stage of cells aren't going to be haggard office layers like with as our desk jockeys to take hold
but therefore this is why the people under the put his pistol ship were a bit shocked with be i think to thought i was a bit of an activist
the sense that i was saying the deal you talk about activism you say had enough meditating i want to go out and get mad now when did you ever stop getting mad you will see their manager pillow manager roshi manager and this and manager that you honestly just stop getting mad mad at ronald reagan is germany yoga meditation new didn't start getting mad if you want
go out and get mad again if you stop getting mad generic medical you laugh before getting again
embrace ronald reagan reagan is your ocean is buddha he's just the same defensive aggressive person as us oh he will he wouldn't have elected
so when i said that i said there's real activism get out there get some stones built a monastery not just for use where anybody for next generation of crazy monk to come and meditate free and then bring them a free lunch every day
that'll be true activism in this country
that would be the beginning of taming the mind the wild savage mind of this country
she added gonna have to talk to the treasury department
indeed
zinsser you have to
you have to pay to get in
the so that you can you don't think anything's and centers real monster and ah
i don't think that it's and there is yeah a real monastery know and none of this incident i don't think any the tibet and centers are real money food you know you hear you think they should i do and that doesn't mean that i think that there should be no lay people or late tractors i don't think that monitors you have to go bag wage and bullet time but there are going to be some people who deserve
have to be be monks the whole time some of them might be nine you ten they're not gonna become buddhas me because some of the motors be good at cooking some of them will go to make showing wrote some of them will be good at that memorizing some suit drugs but there are just there are people who will benefit their life he will bring out their potential best in dear life and involved with the family system and involved
the tax district and evolve the military system and the workforce and they can do great benefit for beans and by doing such a benefit for themselves and they should be supported
maybe the next generation maybe even this first generation have too much as their and everything we're sort of the pioneers
not many of us
well this one is we should be willing to make such a place for those who can and wish to do you say he permitted myself personally i wasn't monk i was ordained as a monk and that's not in this institution to them tradition which preserves the asian video idea that when you become a monk you have to be celibate for life and carried two hundred and fifty three precepts of the mixture of the in i am a big shoe and
and i was simply go home fanatic and i did it against advice at some elders who didn't think i hadn't been or thought i had to mortality is it and so but anyway i did it and then i after some years i felt that this was not useful when my case and i couldn't do it anymore i like and i resigned
we're trying to pass it or leave with states and then to rationalise myself i got into the whole chip about new age and no less old fashioned as asian civilization and weblog as america and role and be free and weblog and i rationalize away wildly about how shambala was on the door to a kind of mixed up for six
and shamble out the aquarian age and maitreya the whole to me by your wishful thinking know perfectly well the exact century that these things are designated by the tradition but never as i makes them all up and rationalize that any i even translator people like courage sutra supervise and the great label do so i haven't been model lives and then if i will have their own needs masters the old fashioned thing
and only in the last for five years i realized my deep error
that's the point is good strategy if you understand what a strategy you can see it you see as long as the nations of the world are drafting the young men and women into their armies and true brainwashing them and training them into violence has to be counter balance has to be counterforce
and then only a real shock troop you know the real para military that real militancy and nonviolence in enlightenment tradition is the manager and a monk they're the ones that they all look up twice they don't recognize their brethren sister as brother and sister they've of they keep identity less that's going in that level you know therefore everybody's dead
brother and sister if when they create an energy of universalize a certain things within a society they keep it alive everybody when the japanese government were to come to a recent history when the japanese government with brilliantly strategizing in the nineteenth century how to rebuild japanese nationalism how to fight off the western imperialists how to get a row
real violent thing going on and inside of society of strong tribalism they knew the one thing
and they said forget monks
and they made them all good man we would have modern moderators we would think the most revolting delighted charging off down there for the for the willow corner know our and for the front dollars of all kinds of with them but the ones who understood when after all since sister sarah he realizes that this was and disemboweling of their militancy this coup
more energy of their militancy which enable them to resist the very government that had a great tendency to become an autocrat it was a breath
drafted and they did they basically put them of course in japan the key turning point with earlier than that was with nobunaga that was really the key point in the late sixteenth century when in tibet the monasteries with the help of some mongolian generals quashed the amateur photography in tibet and really
cancel the are you know they like this band and alarm after that they became pacific government that varies time nobunaga destroyed years
and destroyed them bonuses in japan it's main sort of seat
and fifteen homers and eighty seven fifty ninety two
and they never recovered anyway and then that's why you hear japanese historians to try to rationalize that the shogunate knowledge they say well that with the monsters zone else and if it's not a problem didn't run the government effect amongst represented freedom from the all pervasive power of the government and its regimenting force in japan
which has been of had been a problem to japan and japanese buddhism from the beginning very strongly powerful them
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so you mean that training as a kind of more superficial type of transformation than you would like when you keep if you're using education and mostly positive sense delivery
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that's what i see it is more issue and i see it also not occurring happen monsters to register difficulty of violent penetration tip
easy but i agree with you in the sense that ah
there must be many people who used his wisdom the comedic the accumulated wisdom of the monastic traditions as a sort of behavioral modification type of thing in some way mentally empty manner there must be both in christian and and bullets to circle however on the other hand if we're looking at this sort of planetary macro level that i'm kind of look at
the most of the training going on in say this country is no terroristic type of training for example as i was i was talking with a colleague and by the back and east and they were talking about meditating and we were talk about the subject of having meditation taught in the liberal education know as like like an athletic event you know they they were completing all those terrible this is of this was unheard of
and they were very shocked with me in this particular committee meeting when i said but you people are meditating all the time that schools have always have meditation practice it so what is a football ice hockey lacrosse that's an medication and team play violence aggressiveness hostility how to subordinate your will to this by dr how to crush the opponent and
so for smash that and over fence man beat him down as distorted to have meditation and maybe moving energy it's flows an alien in the guise of game but it's a meditation in militaristic bonding techniques know touristic focusing technique it's a militaristic education and then you move that right over to draft bootcamp
you know basic training six month so there's a how on behavioral modification going on in the wrong direction in uncivilized tribal beverage and therefore even if some of these tactics and techniques of the ancient monastic traditions that the bullet developed in the hundreds and hundreds of rules that you come from the winner about how you hold your hand and how you hold your rope and how you don't bell
a dinner and so forth military have had a funky things in their these things are are are all right i think even if some people do them innocent whole in fact within the buddhist monastic tradition as i would argue with the christian to ultimately there is the core event is a mental is an event where they sort of to structures as way that you can't sort of congress or
the behavioral modification that desire to be really tried to the full scope without actually going through your neither transformation it sort of it's made so complex that it's impossible it's like in other words while sheila samadi in fresno the three education the three spiritual education is of buddhism and she lies the basic of them that is more behavioral modification of speech and body you can actually accomplish the goal
shiva sheila without developing the money just as you cannot accomplish the mahdi without developing price yeah wisdom through your critical analytical discrimination somebody will not be encountered without that with them and sheila enough it comes to that a summary of the with them so while i agree with this could definitely be a criticism about lax monasticism but i'm ah
arguing for here is in a low overall sense that the institution deserves whole hearted buddhist support and instead of a buddhist activists they do to support such institution so even if some people are going to use it in less than excellent way if i'm amazed like you build a started gave them while some people world record into the war some people won't really get up to speed
still live some people will ride on that vehicle to a glorious place and therefore worth making and in fact nicely it's an essential to make them arguments you and more that is essential to make it to develop the piece energy and the society to a certain degree that it's essential that have developed to
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yes i know this is people have difficult glad we we will have difficulty with the seasons as the peace activists say that is this modern america you know
we reinvent every wheel
it couldn't be that a man of the fifth century bc could have been called omniscient could have actually been the better sociologists than max vapor and actually understood precisely how will these institutions and armies and bureaucracies and civilization that history is and nationalism and national egotism national ignorant self habits and somewhat how they work impossible
he wasn't educated at harvard for skip stanford center
so what are they gonna stand you wouldn't have been
that's our modern chauvinism
and people should argue for that because that's how we're indoctrinated to think that would we don't believe that this thing as omniscient person
but this thesis is based on a more behind his the idea that it are is a being who couldn't have come up with are in good conscience without having provided for the sort of time machine of history to lead other beings that optimal efficiency and brooklyn
and the bullet just felt that one as long as they're he didn't article that way but
i think you could say as long as there's militancy on the wrong side and the violent side there must be militancy on the nonviolence
and how do you drain militancy how to educate for militancy of nonviolent how in other words popular sport and simply shunted ever images on is shown never have
a teaching of how not to how to tolerate injury on your enemy
if necessary how to die rather than hate your enemy and retaliate
now that it clearly is what it would be necessary theoretically to have a peaceful planet where nobody could be injured because everybody was willing to let the other internet without a tally mean that seems like utopia but that's clearly and logically the only possibility of people
i and so how do you develop the ability for people therefore to be at least willing to die for peace for love or com and for tolerance we know and then we can say that hopeless either because we know very easy like people who are easily trained to be ready to die for hate were tribalism for egotism
for vengeance easily they kill themselves through all that stuff for any canada out of those negative emotions
the party and most of the love is more powerful than he why can't take a train to die for love
die cooley when i call cool heroes and heroines of hacker of wow
where are they gonna be trained
well maybe you don't tamper can do it but i'm afraid tavern have to have like a monastic court where there's like some special extra know like advanced institute of place like that of this kind of cool and heroism would be people would have had to die to a certain type of relationship to the world would have had to go monastic sort of go all the way go to where there every moment
the purpose in life was completely other the on line is it
completely soft transcend the aren't definite oh that is how house possible because when the hate side is ready to die for me it's a lot of side is only relative to a little wimpy thousand and from now and then they are going on that guy for low then they'll join and eight defender and then then then the violence has one the day
please dress with the question to russia and ruchi who will you know the basic thrust into pieces and don't i don't need to be a tour photos and i think my teeth yes i've been to africa both ever say and good maybe commenting about him what they think if that monastery are essential to society and the sense you're saying
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that is a very basic intimate and every day mind is everyday mind wherever you may be in this world looking the other warm wherever you may be that is every everyday like everyday mind then from that point of
from that place in this world is can and the other word is gone when you got when you go so from that his or seen means and every day mine and who gave mine is place where you can grow you go
don't help yourself and others this is a very basic idea on to support for society human societies to how to hear how to advocate that is a basic idea in them than a vintage him
by in that is in time if you need the alchemists and
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being filed that takes care of him the their lives and the in terms of the down and trying to be a fit into the damn of life down with warm and that eggs or photos that the basic idea of 'em both t you need a monastery to
learn them yes i think that the monastery is very important for her and then a monastery think you can really put us out there and educate yourself and also that for every day mind is not the idea of a
no human night it is exactly activity or practice the emotional everything that activity really help
an etiquette
but that is a monastic like for that's why get intimations anyway everyday life through the everyday routine anywhere is you can go out for the for
and also in the bulls war you can evade not very many mediate mediate beings exist there and helping each other
not to mention
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because monasteries are crucial to the development of the mind of a people
hurt a banana lot for example in our country japan via cannot defend the perimeter mature food the major problems of any country of arc of this country or any country come because of the
disturbances of the individual people's minds to the time they will die he obviously i p pdt there's no doubt about it
somebody therefore the original sort of you could say you know machine shop or factory repair shop of people's minds is the monastery
it is the original factory have a good mind would mind factory can they think of any society
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therefore a monastery to protect the mind of the people of whole the mind of the people provide refuge to the mind the people a monastery is the uniquely indispensable institution gonna resemble the nevada desert dominic nutt antenna the gallatin in the book he will put that into jazz
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out the planet where people have a vast scale in the last century destroyed monasteries everywhere christian as well as good as all throughout russia while the christian martyr
and then dying of decay and the western for northern europe or finished by protestantism in china destroyed by communism in the in industrialized parts of asia has joined by modernism we can see everywhere monstrous have been massively destroyed and people being think that's great finally got rid of those parasite to one of the almost waste of time people in there doing nothing is from power and walking away
from all good things about life know it's going to be personality about monasticism and communist one and on the other hand not only that but people thought our delight now and this free energy now left turn and that's get a good profit unethical here and let's build up some big factories and less perfect this world i stopped is wasting time and spirituality and let's make a perfect world and build it up beautifully and making all kinds of one
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published in newspapers and they said it on the radio and then bring a and hotels up on huge billboard they retained it canada grammatical the the imperial at the normality had the appear with the jimmy to them with of them therefore but now the chinese have realized that nothing has worked out there's no new
yeah everything is a miserable mess and now and then they let the people free for half an hour and what did they build they went back to grow up them out there but i'm going to try to canada as they recognized that a monastery and are indispensable institutions to play who australia doctor depletive the the italian dining they to the russian
and there's a danger that they might begin to allow this to happen
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right so then you feel that that means that monasticism didn't help them you did you have any sense of how they were before they had monastery their rent on how angry at how repressive and how unfriendly they might have been
well yeah but they also have done before the and monasteries and also their monasteries by no means have totally become the monasteries never did their government has always control their monasteries they are monsters i've never been other than an alternative forth so they've never reached this sort of pervasive non dualistic phase and we talk about and but the main point is you didn't see
how angry them what they were without their mouth you didn't go there happily it didn't have you for dinner
the have our in their country they allow their pretty they are peaceful and they've never made a major recently they haven't made any major where they didn't join i want you to budget support so i think their record is reasonable add a few wars in the path and support but while they may have some of the problems of was i do and then nobody has finished evolution has never been finished for a society i
i don't think that you can say that the monitors have caused them any particular harm know that i'm asking what good
you told me that you're going they were definitely i'm sure that things were were day and be i studied the colts of the tribal peoples of those countries and you can there you would be had for dinner and the people were made in my desk in an earlier period you and so i have no doubt that they would be a and b
the same thing that it was as if they are producing good mind there are like they will have been enlightened people from burma thailand it a lot of people in california and fact trying to do with part of as taught by these enlightened people may have the definitely something to benefit schumacher discovered buddhist economics in burma for example small as beautiful as an idea from burma by the and humor and so although
oh oh although the ancestors of in those countries has become since several centuries someone under the control of the can the government too much them to control the government nevertheless it's still operated effectively as certain kind of institution and when you destroy it as we put away you what did you have recently in a similar countries like cambodia
i'm not sure it was preferable
when you destroy them and when you took that manpower room for out of the monastery and amount of loose into armies again back into tribalism again i think it turned rather violent and nasty i think we've noted
so although i thought the ideals utopia informed perhaps it seems to be an indispensable as addition to check the violence in a properly
to ameliorate ameliorated and it was due to its limit may even concrete if you'd take another example if you go to tibet and mongolia if you went there thirty years ago as many travelers and then you can read their books they did discover some isn't that some problems and social problems i'm unhappy people they mainly one of the things that really used to freak them out and everybody was bit grubby nobody took me
any bass they were not into bathing and they had greeted by the lantern thing and they weren't we are pretty relaxed about cleanliness they weren't very anal with the culture and this disturbs some apartment that are not home was very apologetic about it he says that was lovely place there was very chipper we were so terribly dirty don't you find has never forgave of that you thought
cause we were dirty we were necessarily futile me legal and many things but actually dirty is beautiful don't have any jokingly one but but the point is that those people one thousand years before they are told and apathetic and that those countries are the most well as are any countries begin you have something called genghis khan and in tibet you have something called that something gumbo
and conquerors who conquered from the ganges to china to the capital to check out and china way and teeth into central asia and key west into iran very powerful violent people who would entail their enemies on fears and parade them around the warm blood sacrifice of human capital and so forth and genghis khan and legendary of course he's part of the net know he had not just posted
well he just droid monetary things that his air eventually supportive of that them when they had finished their family and then within a thousand years of fanaticism they became unfit to destroy other people and hence they became vulnerable and more going to heaven been destroyed but i'm saying they became came as an easy
for example this is something that to me as motives if you've seen on a macro level of people like to do that
then if you look at world war two as the time of explosive national tribalism is exploding with industrial technology around the world if you look at that time as such a time and then you'll look back into the seventeenth century and you discover that the dalai lama preventing mongolian tibet nationalism from arising then in the hands of secular aristocratic power and it pro
vented those people from modernizing industrializing bringing engineers from russia and and people from iran and so forth and topping might have prevented them and kept the people under monasticism then you might stand in the twentieth than otherwise have done that happened at the dialogue was gone with that those national lenders and modernisers that which they were many we might have had another
force in rome where to how would you like i've had the heirs of changes car in their tanks and planes and messerschmitt and whatever it may be to have to the rule meet with you think it would have been pleasant
and i think that
and then they are a case of a nation who was completely came to its own political detriment now of course one thing about this pieces that is that is very bluntly stated it is like the same pieces of art selflessness on the individual level if you're going to be selfless you're going to realize that was that you're going to have to accept vulnerability you're going to have to the price of
being civilized because the price of the open of being generous even towards barbaric
as far as yourself if you may actually bought it's up with may fight to protect another but unable to accept violence perpetrated upon themselves without retaliation without hatred without anger a nation by the same token who truly comfortable
allows itself to the danger of invasion
and has to put its value elsewhere then in a holding its political territory
and it's so moving as obama gave a talk to twenty thousand and developers who came from tibet you will die this winter and he was teaching them shouted gave was teaching about how to develop tolerance and not to retaliate enemy and how the enemy made and take your life of this life but only get do is kill you one time whereas hatred if you hate and you peel back
you may kill yourself and put yourself in hell's innumerable like
it made much your own hatred is much more powerful and dangerous enemy in other words and he was teaching minute and therefore using actually be thankful to in your enemy gives you a chance to practice tolerance which then gives you a chance of reaching the boundless life of put up the great ocean of life that kind of get well you never tired of talking about the great ocean of life of buddhahood it is the enemy who gives you a
chance to develop that by developing transcendental tolerant by injury you it's a very powerful arguments and the database that is really wrenching it takes the eco and just crusher that argument he was changed to these people who have been tortured by the judge who have been to a holocaust a relatives have been killed in front of their face they themselves have been in prison camps it's india
temple desecrated if children's toy by famine he was telling them this and they were weeping and but they accepted it they try their best
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