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i guess i can flu
lucia really good to see everybody
let's see what we can do
and i'm i'm happy to engage
she went there are you mind
our questions about
so i'm still around
and damn
i'm working well
we're working on these books my road
yeah my book or album would you call it my burger my books because it's a couple of books are folded into one
you are too
so how are you are married are interested in time delving into my past
an interviewer the history of the gender
enron wrong and kicker are really and are helping to to do that
they're both good editors
no mom
that
i think come i hope you and something will happen by the end in here
children will happen
i don't jam
ah love everything will be completed
didn't the longer you live
on the mark on stuff you accumulate
whether the furniture or our karma
yeah damn
sure i'm not pushing myself but i am
am
no make a good effort

so i going to know how you doing
from from i
do you wanna go first
do you wanna go for it ohio
my restaurant
michael
where are they
i'm here
like
can you help
a week near you you can hear me yes
okay
it's good to see your surgeon and you you do and it's going to hold my hands correctly
yeah
you taught me how to get show ten years ago ah not like this no no no like this yet
the delusion and the like met together yet
i still think one by one hand is deluded of the other is enlightened well they're both deluded in about enlightened they're both limited and both okay
so if i lose a hand i can still be complete
that's an interesting question
yes
depending on what you mean by complete
i worry sometimes because my arms are not the same i have a large arm and a small arms a strong arm and a weak arm yes
and my vulnerability comes with that sometimes we get you know
quite normal
my guess the question yes it's just so good to see you this where this i know that arms ivan yeah i missed in the last time but i personally speaking to hassan
and i'm happy to see you tonight
ah i guess the question
and when i wrote a poem about this i thought about what we learn from spiders
about catching mistakes spiders catch the bus route
you caught my mistake at the right time
my continuous mistake
at the right time
i'm still
i'm still dealing with a continuous mistake
i wonder sometimes as the world changes
in the future of btc develops and other community of saga develops
how can we ensure that we welcome each other's continuous mistake
i'm
you know mistake doesn't mean mistake

it doesn't mean mistake know what does it mean
i can be suggests
success
we take the plunge into something called to chess
yeah so we choose success on mistake
amish take
of course
cost
an evaluation
literally
i'm so will dog and finish my life is workmanship me a continuous mistake
he managed
am
he doesn't mean it's one continuous success
but one continuous mistake
it's not a complete
that means like is like this
life itself is like is not like i made a mistake
because i'm a because i was born into this world
my life was when continues to stay because
i would say because
it's like using language
to say one thing and meaning it's opposite
we have to do that sometimes he says well we do it all time what i'm thinking
when he says
a life one one continues and stake
it's like you're walking you baby down the street just over a cute little kid and you say oh no and he let your cute
you hide the truth inside what you say
yes
if the the nuances of language
the dog as language evolved poetic
follow too much
when you compliments about anything oh you're doing really well with oh i'm not i've never really get a cat
when continues must make
you know i'm we recently read charlotte's web the drop of luck
mama and charlotte had lost a baby spiders huge
you've ordained a lot of people and lot of spiders i have correction fluid on my rock sioux hold it up a little
i have correction fluid
yet you put correction fluid on it i did
i
cries that correction solid
thank you thank you for putting the correction fluid on my rocks and there was nothing
are all those little spiders
the little tiny ones the bigger ones
are they all continuous mistakes
depending how you think
it's on how we think
you can call
am not everything that ever existed a mistake
it has hasn't been mistake because everything has more than one side
i say
when i was a a heard many many years ago
jamal grow well at night
and
i had to go out and
an asteroid they were doing
a tour note
the driver should i have a whole jar from a black widows
and i'm gonna put them where they belong
really rejoiced over that
wow
they have their place
they have their place
and it wasn't in the jar
yeah no at i wouldn't think so
mike can you wrap up now yes
thank you
what does one more one more thing that mistakes are very important
it's really important to acknowledge your stage because that's how we learn and that's our progress
now when you make mistakes now we're usually overhead and
immigration said i been some really good mistakes journey
and they're really helping me lot
yes
thank you yeah

that's what ray webster

when you take a
can hear me
i can right thank you surgeon roshi on my name is deseret and i must didn't have really seen and research
so happy to be able to participate in as a covered dr sam ah so i'm my question tonight is about courage and what what is the best way to cultivate courage
for things either the that are most painful to bear witness to
you know things have great destruction or are things you know that are so dear i just wonder if you would say a little bit about cultivating courage well

i shrink
and open about who you are
so as you got the key more
you know to have the courage to say i am afraid
to have the courage to
you are
think something is going to block your way
does your obvious oh but then there's the courage that is deep inside of us that often were afraid to express
ah so
i'm
ah
everybody is afraid of something
noun
everybody's afraid of something but not everybody's a privilege than things

i had a student one time
i am we talk about that little bit he you know enjoyed getting up on routes and fixing them
and that i've done that but i don't like doing it
it makes me nervous
but he said but you you get up there and talk to instead of one hundred people
that would scare the devil enemy or go so or i think it's it's really a okay to say i am afraid of this and are to buy
i'm ah
expressing the fair really goes a long way on a bomb
one neutralizer yeah
that's very helpful know yeah thank you very much them
i've served on lap

i searched and nourishing time suit
oh i had on
to your questions
i can stop it detachment first run
after confidence i don't see you have an accident should be stopping
a couple of weeks ago you said and when somebody comes to docusign they should ask the most important question
and i've been thinking about to add ah
and i'm hoping to ask the most important question but my question is what is the most important question was she
but keep asking that question that the most important question what is the most important question
i mean that's an operator
what is the most important question is art is are are gone
for everybody
you know if you don't have to ask the most important question
but you should embody the most record question
tomorrow the most important potent question is what you're dealing with
of time
without necessarily being aware
could you say a little more about that
what's the most important question
after all
what is her life bob
so for zen student
the most important question is what is the most important question
what am i really do it
am i rewatch really going on
in so many things going on
and within each one of them
resides the most important question
but we don't see it that way
we settle for below
ah
a superficial view of life
so
am i encourage you to keep asking that question
dutch defend students question

that's why we practiced
okay
he want them
scuse me sabrina marriage
yes
hello such in usa buddha
i have been having so much trouble with my practice since the pandemic began because i've lost ah the space in my mind and in my life to to actually practice the way i have been and and i tried it
first to just sit in the chaos and the noise and i started to get very frustrated and angry and i thought that that's not good so then i would try not sitting and then i would get frustrated and angry with myself because i wasn't sitting and i think until the
pandemic is over i will be in this situation where it feels like a fight and i don't want to give up my practice but
i was feeling like if i try to just be in the chaos i started to become the chaos and i don't think that that's right i first i need your advice i need your guidance desperately well
the bottom line is how you settle
come behind it didn't sound good when you said i'll give out i've read i'm reminded of going to that data
get you never say never
even though you feel that way it doesn't mean you have to live that way
he will know you feel like oh i'm in i'm just gonna ride this out until the end in a whole new not gonna do that
you know it
they don't have to be a supers and student
are you a will
in order to practice the shuttle and where you are
he just said on yourself without blaming
the worst person in the world who can blame yourself
oh i'm not doing a show i can't do this on such a badge and didn't have the
he's took that out
shut down
your legs and breed
you know
the reason we are bothered by the our surroundings us because we choose to be bothered by it
you think you have no choice because loot the and than the with
a noise around you is so loud
it's hard
but hard
ah hillsborough practices
on
the question encourage came up
few people ago
our ocean important learn
the emotion more ancient important really
no
someone once said you know these people say this
oh you know that
version is just a an enlarged contract contest
to see you can blab other well actually that's true
it isn't endurance is an endurance activity is not necessarily into an endurance contest
there's nothing you can catch the edge
you are actually stronger than your surroundings
but you would think that your surroundings are stronger than new

have faith in your ah ability to sit still
and instead of going around being bothered by extinction under which is too
will never end race
ah true
hum harmonize with yourself when you're surrounded
when did read when the noise starts coming in have you don't have to grasp it
just let it go in control
a cool breeze slow should the empty all
want you to think about that
the empty home
i'll think about that do not think about it
didn't think about it just do it justice
i will thank you so much thank you this will help me violets clinical social central
ross bomb

good evening sergio roshi
suzuki she said yeah okay as you are and you can use some improvement
which is a mistake yo case you are or you could use some improvement
they're both a mistake
why did he say it was kim
i'm asking him now
ah
i'm
you know back in the fifty sixties the new sixty
people there there were a lot of
i'm a self improvement schemes than practices yes adzuki regime he said this is allowed herself and program package this is the practice of being who you are accepting who you are
from
and so he didn't deny improvement
the thirty nine prove it
so he said you're just a likely you as you are
but you could use a little man
that's good nash that's good news
that reason to my other medics question
a between dumb shot and ginger
just before leaving don't shot asked if after many years someone should ask if i am able to portray your likeness
how should i respond
after meeting quiet for a while yang yan said
just as person
yeah justice joseph well
mr rob how at it just isn't just as person but in any case
if in the future someone asked you
how would you betray your student say she test you though
what will you say

he's great just half years
but it could use little
huh
oh man
hope that you're welcome we ran house
have you been such a narrow good a unique good to see you i miss seeing you around the neighborhood yeah the water on watching the more ah no one to well maybe i'll see you up front some yeah
so you and i have known each other for a long time and on and i've been in and out of bcc and in and out of being with another teacher whom you and i both now and i wanna thank you for being my teacher throughout those years regardless of whether i was at dcc not
carried you around with me in many ways and your exchange with see dunlop helped me to kind of fast forward through some of the things i was going to say what my more important question is
you've had your many decades of practice and of teaching and of seeing many many students some of them through many decades of their practice and so i want to drawn on your wisdom and all of that
as as i said i've been in and out of practice and when i tell myself as well just practice and then you'll see the value of practice but it's kind of a chicken or the egg it takes a certain amount of confidence
resolve faith to practice and that's a big reason why i can to go back and forth is that i will not only with myself but i'll look around the room and
so like when i was at tassajara on it seemed to me that the majority of the people there were there because they'd rather get up at three fifty in the morning than deal with the real world what real world well and that there's that
never felt like we were hiding behind those mountains there is a real world there was a world outside of the mountains oh good and over my ears and with various dharma groups i see people you know everybody brings their stuffed to dharma practice but a lot of them they'd never leave it behind
practice or the dharma community becomes the place where they engage with ego or whatever and i did that too and yeah i may be projecting but i think i'm projecting accurate blake
so i look at so the buddha said to judge a teacher look at his or her students and i look at dharma practitioners many of whom i've known in various groups and there are some people who inspire me but there are a lot of people who i don't see the practice
he has done anything for them and so that's not a source of confidence so i don't know what to do
well
no blame
of me or them yes her
no
yes
you don't do well but need a lot
and
ah
i'm letting go
him
our opinions
he values valuations
evaluations
this one should be inspiring me like how come they're not
who are you inspiring
oh
as an academic know is a real bifurcation there were i will not much but seven students and teachers but with others i will see them twist traditional teachings and try to use them to say things that i know they don't or sep
apple who i mean they're very few people i would like to hear talk about dogan because i know the problems of translation and literature across centuries and cultures so it's very hard to listen and to watch and to not say i don't see that there's a
inspiration here i mean they're illiterate isn't i can't pretend if it's not there
you know how you run an have you get people to love you
i didn't know i was trying to get people to lovely know this is my question yeah you know how to do that
to love that show love them and know that's the standard answer but no it's not to standard answered
it's true it
either that sure that i care
vash that's really important
know especially this week with what's going on with the election i look at all of these crazy trump people and i think i don't wanna have anything to do with them
i don't want to live in the same country with them i don't know
you're not alone i know
what will you do about it i don't know
how don't no good answer
but it shouldn't be done to chin indignant you
so what's the next answer most answer is how do you inspire people
why do i want to inspire people
but he wanted the answer the news
be inspired i guess wanna be inspired and but
you're not willing to inspire
i don't know i'm not i don't see a need for that yeah so you'll always be lonely
that's that's okay yeah that's okay now everything's ok
but maybe it's not but the question isn't about loneliness it's about practice well practices about being one with body
hmm even trump
you didn't drink
is very lonely man need your love it don't give a to the
i don't know
isolation
it is not such a good idea
i've actually i think that's another reason why people get him to practice communities as because they want people to hang out with and again i i don't think that's not appropriate reason i'm here or it's fine with them but i'm not gonna do it at i had a
an instance where i went to a dharma training thing and as i walked onto the property somebody said to me oh i'm so happy to see you and i knew i was supposed to say that back but actually i didn't know who was target and shoot you were supposed to do that back well because that's kind of the normal thing
what's with the normal thing is there's something to normal
you know you're just digging yourself into all probably yeah yeah probably
okay my suggest if you want an answer to a huge crush yes i do i would say get up and do something
and be kind to people and what can i do for you what can i do can i help you
things will change
you want you like to change that he won't fit in
i don't know you do know but you won't say so
he won't admit to yourself so you if you getting to big guy gonna like
i'm you know how to garden the worms
getting their weapons are healthy but you know you don't have to do
okay i will think about a hotfix yeah don't think about it just do it
but then kidney is your proud
because as an academic i don't put down academics put it as an academic you've trained yourself to hide behind academics
yeah gift just get out of that
dr awesome were cut above
right i will
thank you know them
i'm daniel o'hare
kyle
hmm
ah
i i think you are receiving
ah
my
i question him
about as
what it sounds from a painting
painting ah
oh we'd say rice cakes
ah
painting rice cakes were paintings ah
the mountains where
like mountains painting mountains
you are painting buddha's paintings
ah yes
hmm the question is like about on
hmm
like serve the painting space that
like creative or eggs a spontaneous ah
ah
painting space but then they can taken
hmm your thoughts on that the painting space or the creative painting rice cakes painting buddhist paintings are mountains mountains painting the mountains know
will you add a very complex question and i were you when you have a complex question with fragments
he has become suddenly will hold it together
ah mountains are you talking human dog give painting of a rice cake
yeah well you should study it further
and input and and feared as a whole and i just with fragments
because i'm not sure which fragment you won't explain
and using it as i can explain teach

who explains things poop but if
explanation explain things

oh
okay and don't i would say
if you want any of those questions to be explained we should thoroughly study what it is that you want explained
because to me girlfriend
so
where i want you to be better prepared

okay we should be able to say
no gun says
or touched by i'm painting to a rice cake
the whole fabric on while aiding him a ranking
so what kind of exploration do you want
what do you really want explained

hmm
i mean the first thing it comes to mind is who am i oh that's good one pretty good one good question
oh so
who am i
there's an endless quest
endless quest who am i
a better way
or an alternative which what am i
it was who implies a self

it's an endless quest because there is no so no and her itself
people who are crazy asking that question
who who
i must have an i who who to energy hours
a fan
what am i what is that
where am i i s including their bets are off to bed at am
ah
instead of what am i what is this
what is this

what do you like local right back

and

oh

painting or a rice cake
the billions as painting or or rice cake
with
ryzen flour is the
ah actualization realization of
cake that's not terrible know what with that without a doubt
and
but he also says that the rice cake ah don't confuse the rice cake with a the rice cake that are comes and goes
it's the it's
the rice cake before
i not before a born of father and mother and before our father and mother my show on
oh what is poor father and mother
empty for your mother me

she the question is not for me to answer the question is for you
him
what is your true nature you for your father and mother were born

you have to look at the question behind the question
and in order to understand dogan you have to understand what are his background
and metaphors that it is using
that's why i think you always
you should find a good teacher

because she
the question comes from from the top they don't come from the bottom yet
the real question is what is your children and putting your father and mother were born

okay you should know in with and she'll happy been
oh can i say mountains and rivers yet
what about it
my true nature before my father and mother reborn
what about that
autumn in that mountains and rivers yeah no
hey
no and your ordinary open to you and and practice you will have certain ideas that about trips are
you are establish a knowledge based on what you think im jahr
then when you enter practice will go lot
it simply let go of all your ideas are your understanding
and enter into practice
clinch
how does in
study
i'm work
and

when you have really great you to practice
when you come out when you come the other side
you realized that nothing with what you thought it was
everything looks this name
but you see it in a totally different way
we see it as it is
not as you thought it was
and you have to have changed now
but it didn't come without the practice
you can't just think it up or think the answer
up
he also has to come from the deepest part of your being
it hasn't got through yet
and it will help if you find a good practice and good teacher or mortgages
you have to answer your own questions
i will not answer your questions for you
you will do the work he do the work but it's not deep enough

shall i am
recommended i
thank you
i'm better clausen
hi surgeon
could you see you
who

am
so right
sojourn i don't think i knew this until recently are stepping down ceremony him but i now understand the name sojourn mean sam essence of purity
and
my question is what is purity
the other side of impurity
fury is found within the impure
we want to split things share all this is pure this is endured there is validity to that
but on

true purely is
the se seven non-duality

to express purity
we do this
this is impure so-called this is a pure so calm show trump purity is beyond purity and impurity
that so
so
ah
ah

we shouldn't get stuck into to and the
oh impaired in current dollars to thinking about them
although dual duality is an important is important
everything exists in job and two sides at least
short period in was beyond purity and impurity
it's the way things are read more
would you say it's you
encounter purity one should become well acquainted with impurity
well

if ever would say let go of both of them

i can't i can't express it for you you know that's my name
pure practice i think you express it very well
thank you so gay
ah joy and common
hello surgeon
i'm
i have a question about i'm working with my mind wandering lot during zazen jij for the cloud
but i hadn't thought about you know the whole concept of out giving your mind kind of a big field to wander and but then if i understand correctly the other side of that is too
is like if the metaphor is to watch it like to to give your mind the big field but then also to kind of observes on how it behaves the my reading that wrong if not wrong but it's only one way of expression jumpy
so on
when we when we do something about your specific
subjects
the nature of the mind is to produce thoughts
and it's doing it all the time when right
dick yourself such major the i didn't initially respect to mind when you respect to to respect the workings of the mind and would was not
it's like having a bad tv show on all the time does okay
you can have on tv show the background
doesn't have to persuade your whole life it's really loud didn't have to parade your whole game
so when you should tell them
you make it a an intention to just sit
you have no
nothing too
damn to accomplish except to jesuit street greed let let the body buried
oh and let let back
mind and body
bresch harmonize
so the to mind you know speaking loudly so the thing about that
is it just don't let yourself be bothered by it
that's all that's not gonna hurt you
an illegal if if if it's hindering my calm mind
but a calm mind is beyond all that
what would you really can
concentrate on the brush
and and ah
ah let the body find itself find it's a comfort
it should be comfortable
none of the usual sense
should and should we should let you be urge
your body be comfortable which means at ease he will know you're making an effort to should upstream you also let your body be at ease
ah so that's where your mind may have plenty to think about ten thousand
and when he went to the thing to think about is
the is urgent
that's the subject
so every time you sit thousand
you should give you some southern instruction
this is the web this is a toy put like that is no way no era
oh and your justin it's a form of thing
for all activity and shall give it it it formed and if you if you give it its formed it will take
oh
it will harm and management are interested
the harmonize a breeding it'll have an interest
ah
thinking so you want your mind that harmonize with there's this also
just let the fans keep go through without attaching to them to touch stereotype let the feds go through
ah duck stereotyping and without blaming blame is the worst thing you could do
oh i'm such a bad person oh i'm so it's a terrible than blair
bowl lad
i just couldn't do it justice
go
oh really call that central if we thought everyone or to
to to blame yourself for what you can't control
so you're not trying to control your do allowing body mind and breath to harmonize by itself
and if you give his observe an instruction every time you sit
which means that when your mind wanders the thinking why wanted you keep bringing it back over and over and over and all this is the fiftieth time and program
should is a good number you could be a hundred and fifty
usually it is a i'm not sure it doesn't to worry
that is not the purposes of them
in purpose does and is to relax and let and let the party minor bread harmonize
and then
the
that situation far surpasses the one where you're blaming yourself all time
this go through everything
doesn't this just life
how do you want to live it
living in harmony with the universe
when you can believe that
an act an act that way you'll enjoy started really enjoying news
why
when you can enjoy just being a lot of than you can enjoy while there are other things because that's the bottom line
okay thank you
the only ackerman
phoenix thirteen roshi or need
i yeah i always had on have an issue because i always feel like i won't ask you a question
during these and and then like trust formulated question i start to get really confused about whether nice the right question oh joy's the wrong question yeah
in any question is the right question but i think i i've i've really appreciated the the questions and answers that i've heard this evening and actually wanted to piggyback off of if it's all right because when i practice or
bringing my mind back
am
to my breath it doesn't seal doesn't feel good it feels like get back their model got gonna get back and our gratitude yeah i it
no it far
is there a different sentence i could use on earth no blame
why are you punishing yourself
what bringing you're bringing your attention back is not bringing your attention back instantly letting go of what you're thinking about now
and then you're you're you're on
what is it automatically
but you just naturally the mine just not your new that emerged a big question are there are utterly to use it you're you're on
no
ah
if your your thoughts will return to their essence
so you know you like to think didn't you
come on come on
yeah
the enjoyment of it yeah so we enjoy our thoughts right in punishing i thought
where do you want to punish yourself get back get back your dog
like dogs
i have two cats oh well
katonah or l isn't anything i say so yeah well you can pick them so literally or or anyone so ah
just relax so what if you don't get back in your dad did to you know
why punish yourself we do the best began so we may keep making an effort
nowhere whether the effort to no zazen
because then we think you'd get on chosen not i'm changing is ago
give them
commonly thought that an
no
oh
the meditation or zijin is to just relax you know it when i'm drinking that there is that quality projects it can only one quality it is
letting go of time but resistances
the other quality is exerting herself
so you don't feel good when you just relax and overtime road we go when you're exerting yourself to xenophon is a kind of work that you weren't
and
ah
you make your effort
i'm an idiot the beach again and it is no such thing as the best vase and period
the of the best sides agreed i ever had maybe i'm enlightened know
is no such thing as the best the answer is the most successful the thousand period
every citizen period if you really make the effort is the best surgeon period
shall we evaluate with your original ad
i'm not saying you do you may have said that bet
let go so let you know so innocently for some you know
at penn
not judging and making that making a judgment
this is the most important thing
oh my leg her you know to a turn and i'm scared
when you do something wrong don't apologize
just this what happened to see what's happening
that's then it's not i go i want to make it better so the this is what's happening now that's our practice
the corner or practices this is what's happening right it is moment
as each moment is changing
our minds flows with the change from a power consciousness flows with the change
show just the right amount november the right man of ease and they should balance each other
that's the best thing to do with anything you do
so
i'm less than just living your life
moment by moment
one mobile and time there is no happened you may count your breath one the up to ten spring
the the numbers don't add up
slipknot to help you be present
you should try that
when you inhale you actual and when you actual you can mine have you done that
that's a good thing to learn how to do
i'm because it gets to keep a helps to keep your concentrated
oh i'm breast
when you can really feel concentrated on each breast
ease in your shoulders and back and live
the you feel
i don't want a promise that you feel passionate
way to harmonize
i have not had much to do with you but i'm ah i wish i did that maybe i will
thank you very much pig
the last bigger to the marvin

such row roshi
thank you so much for spending this lovely evening with all of us
as you
as you delve into your past
writing that book of many decades i was wondering if you've come across something or
you're considering something or there's some thread that you might share with us tonight that might help us all navigate our way
this time of great division in our country something that you see in your own life
well i come you know
sixty seven reopened the xander berkeley right away
at that time there was on
but all disruption
at the university
students were
running through the and climbing or concerns
shows by the police
concentrated i was concentrating no hope
didn't affect me but i'd never been a university student so i didn't really relate to the university students that way i went to art school for couple of years that was my post education but i was when i started practicing without them with the up
oh that's all i was interest to do
so i wouldn't say that it is an allowance in this case
oh i could say there you can show that but i just wasn't interested in politics so
oh we weathered through that are easily
and then the next one was reagan being
and now and that affected at more but you know because we didn't react children the reacted way we just kind of no did are saying then rendered until the next one ah no
all these regimes change and
i actually got plush affected of practice wasn't just in are ignoring what was going on but the practice itself
taught us how to become through every situation
how'd you find her a calm mind and practice in that way through every situation and natural practice so has been there already and ah

and then bush gave a hug
nope we had always receives that the worse so undemocratic and we were just practicing democracy
in our
an adventurer and so to me we were setting an example that there were which was something we could do
that's some pipe dream but something that actually we were doing amongst ourselves so i've always felt that
and ah upholding the ah
oh god the spirit of democracy and
ah
i'm feeling that are we could add were helping people may be no way that a mystery attacked away but as actual that we were oh well
mm
exit exemplary
and i i'm in an hour lunch
and that's what we were aiming at to be exemplary in our lunch and we didn't do group activities much
because we will happen when lay practice
yeah basically little practice at that time and ah
ah we also felt that practicing thousand and branch in the way was an
a big some kind of influence good influence in the world
and i've always sheltered that just practicing our practice the best way we could and actually helping people
however we could
with our best contribution
it was a different kind of contribution
sounds like you're talking about on the long view or yeah the longer you will always practiced law
yes our practice with always been the line room and it also sounds like you're staying on life is just like this like was just aren't really any different this time it's just a variation on the recreation i watch yes the just have been a very a
should went after the other
i'm an like a stone will weathering the storm it does seem to me and maybe it's just a poor memory but you know i'm i'm twenty five years younger than you but i bet you can say the same thing when i was growing up in my neighborhood
it was on
there were a lot of republicans and the real lot of democrats and i remember as a kid listening to adults argue and dispute each other and debate each other and discuss the issues but at the end of the chain they sat down
and eight together and barbecued together and dance together and it doesn't seem like it's that kind of the time i am
no flood
and
we have had very influential people
sitting with us
practicing with us for years who were not
ah
didn't have the value lose necessarily
oh
what people think about us
who are not
no earn
well anyway
and
we rip influential people not necessarily mean the government
a musician munitions industries
tommy scientists eligible
i'm gonna
real we always got along well together
and layers they were practising either then
i remember of
turn back as the village to privilege
the seventy three the additional is trying to share on
no
birmingham
people from the rad lab
radiation laboratory
i'm to seriously
and am i am moderated mary mano
one differences
the people had with them
then we ended up bringing a respecting during the same practice can respect to each other
sir
that was a kind of country the to me that with big cash fusion
well that's an inspiration makita spring sauce and having to the street navy know
no
thank concerns in rensselaer wanna name names a felt
large i didn't ask permission
thank you know
project would you like to take more questioners are urged the favorite should wrap it up not listening or i'll never know
that's about twenty seven after
twenty eight after okay
why don't you mean
that's a rather than than ever ambitious attempting to talk to them but i can eat a couple of question okay fire somebody bought in learn there
what was i
how about first effort
phillip sheppard
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hi julie
i knew okay
hello
near on will okay good
my question it has to do with a self and sense of self
and in a it came up when i i did am a way seeking mind talk and the two weeks before the talk i was haunted by thinking about my past and how i would present myself etc etc
and trying to understand self because i want to understand my sense of self today
get so involved with would quote could happen to me in my as i was growing up as i was becoming now am and i wanna know if he can give me the any idea of how to avoid getting entangled with a m
related sense of self okay
some
the reason and there's no self is because there is a snob
i have not been up
but it's itself is lot of self an instant you know
i am
him
when it when we say no sell it doesn't mean that there's nobody there it means something like no inherent self another roof know so that that doesn't change
so anything that changes
we can we say is not completely real
the only thing that that is totally real
your gmail is totally real is that we're just doesn't change so if you can find out
we bring it to me
so at edges it that is the past self that i have trouble with the earth to pass out because
oh you thought it was herself
will add the time i didn't know any different but not linda so the past self
and
no so what we do have a self yes we create karma does the us knows what the deal know that well yes so we have the self and we don't have herself and himself that we think we have is not a real selves it's the shelves
that is created
to anything that gets created is not
completely true
what is true as that which never changes
so
i have a temporary of himself and i call myself and relate to as an individual
if we could issue
if he could possibly
let go of our idea of self
he go
so sense itself as the center
then
instead of relating to this to what we call herself as herself to hollywood versus the south
in that better
a whole the whole universe is the self ness
okay so that's allowing the universe to direct us instead of we do need self direction
it's it's complicated bread but first degree

know there's a saying
the bodhisattvas halo
is the whole universe

i'm
make of look
oh

we also seek to whole universe is this from yourself
but we have to narrow it down
we can't go around and walking around to i am own interests
who put you in jail
but

mom
the more we can
well i put it this way
the

hello

so the more selfish we are
new said it we are
oh
oh
blocks or pass to actually being
would is centered
so in order to practice the dharma
will we rather trade in
our self-centeredness
and move over to being good buddhist center
different means to to practice buddhism yes buddha said you
what is century considered self injury
but
yeah it's not correct as ne

privileged or so
hello you didn't spend that apple
oh

okay it's time for you to get a glass of water there does a water
guess it is
oh
thank you thank you very much you've given me a lot to think about yes it's like to think about good i were thinking about it
thank you very much yours
maybe take one more you the night

okay how can you i knew
thank you
hello
we just
this is william how a william bell nice to smoke my name was used tonight
you want tonight my name came up tonight so i thought i'd put in an interjection
good you were talking about the on conversation with union
what i wasn't garden by someone asked me about it there's somebody else who's talking about i was mister powell thank you so much for this book in translation
you're welcome but i want to remind sojourn made in nineteen eighty when i came back from japan you and i sat together and went through every single case you let book and as i was finishing my cock translation yes so in fact
when it came up that
union says just this person or justice yes yes
i'm most later versions of the text for justice on cho j sure was her yorker that's what you were saying hurt you but yeah nigeria sensei pointed out to me that in the earlier version the the all of the patriarchs
the line was just this person of hon oh there's just this online damaged at perfect judge and what that meant was that was a proof a formulaic confession of guilt in a chinese court oh was a legal term
so yeah nikita thought that maybe what that was saying was that i'm the one who did this i'm the one who's whatever i am and we don't answer that question necessarily but is just me right here i'm fully responsible no analysis as well i guess that's hard to say as well
yes in for good or bad i'm the one
we're copper
and and that was unions last comment toes out as far as i remember yes that was too much fun
i can have it that throne
professor of the deep impression i had i had an opportunity to spend so much time with you're doing that
can leverage your could do it all over him
one
russo on
thank you very much should you i just i don't want to keep you any longer i just wanted to throw that in give me a luxury leg
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