Blue Cliff Record: Case #17

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"Sitting Long and Getting Tired", Sesshin Day 5

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the day the murder
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today come i went to the panel
present time this case number seventeen from the book or credit
ah
it's that
title
since then show rims sitting long and getting tired
emerson curved the book and me
quick fix
there is a fountain
sometimes it's a of and thirty diamonds
why the third time i come from the web
i'm sorry ngos in production and go always introduces
the main case
senco chicken dai osho i compiled a book of records
an angle
ha
meta was introduced
mid the introduction
for a says
i'm cutting through nails and breaking steel

nice mighty powers as strong as day

cutting through nails and breaking steel for the first time what can be called master the first principle
if you keep away from arrows and evade sword you will be a failure in gen
as for the subtle point where no prob can be inserted that may be set aside for a while
but when the foaming waves washed the sky what will you do with yourself then
see the following
main subject
a monk as korean
what is the meaning of body diamonds coming from the west this is the famous cretan
up to the history them
kurian said sitting long getting tired
ha

and there are many famous answered that question for the return can with but i won't go into
best damn
this i answer of cure inches
quite a plane
ha maybe that's why it's plain and yet ah and you look at
is a deeper
so i'm cured that sitting on getting tired
a mean sergio
ah chee come
crucified on them
kiss and it's vs
when to and tens of hundreds of thousands take off the muzzle and sit down the load
take up they have to muddle sit down alone
if you turn to the left
and right following another tweet
i would strike you as go struck be a tetramer

in other words if you don't find your own way you'd get a beating
not from somebody else
none from somebody else
actually you get beat up
through your own effort or lack of effort

i went to issues
the nokia
cicada sensei and i thought i'd read his note pretended to not found interesting has come to the the translators to
a cure him
who was born and gyno wade
with one of the for outstanding this type of the woman man or young men
the chinese film them
ah an environment where are the most famous than mixture
ah and he has moved there more cases i think in the book of records aren't been man booker factored in picking and anda
this case
kate escape
ruben can be with mistake
hum
thank you
there are more cases of homeland and
anyone else
and you're famous for his shirt cryptic remark or dancers
kurian followed a man for eighteen years is is attended every day or man called him and when he answered yes sir
oh man would say what is this
ha this was continued for eighteen long years then one day kurian exclaimed oh i understand

yeah we think that maybe we spend a long time studying gym when will it be over when can we move on when can we will we get enlightened
hum
imagine why don't you say it in a transcending man
say it in some way that ah expressive your understanding
and children spent another three years two months to attain full maturity
he was a great master but slow to mature
curious to try por cima were thatcher chose teacher said show
i compiling a book effective
kurian taught his disciples for forty years and when he was dying he said for forty years i was constantly in one piece
but if she meant that he had maintained his samadhi both absolute and positive and broken through that time
hum
i went to talk a little bit about somebody
if are she i almost never heard him use the word somebody
ha he would say
imperturbable mind
our perfect composure
something that he would use those terms over and over again
i bet he rarely used the word samadi but when he made a calligraphy it's calligraphy figure features a king of kings model
ha
i think that we have trouble with words like somebody
because
they sat there
some exotic
when you say some i some of them out
some
some eastern mysticism
ha
but i like to use the word summary and i've started using the word somebody
even though i didn't want to use it for a long long time
for that reason
but i if we use the word like samadhi scams use it in it's treason
as we demystify us
so i would rather stay mystified
ah were somewhere rather than just keep it just avoided using it because it's serious
an word like dharma prisoner cell phone
ah buddha nature
ha
sometimes ah
the exalted kind of
connotations they have and
kind of mysterious behind them
such as or turns us off
ah so it's hard to kind of has turned to penetrate the meaning for her to enter into it into the word in order to let it asked
open a month actually a word can't open her mind
if we put a word into our consciousness we don't understand the meaning of
ah we just put it in their com
headwater water it
so to speak
pretty soon it will start to grow and ah
but open open up ah
can channel the one of our minds are we can begin to understand it

so with words like samadhi prajna donald shepard
our dharma is already an accepted word
emma and beverage and the west coast something
yeah
it's misused a lot
but even so
it's not misused in a bad way i think
people like to take words
and especially an exotic birds and used them for their shops and services or can toss them around and using the air there but still when the word is used and scene and gets kicked around ah
it
ah people begin to think about it and if it becomes a kind of byword becomes the word in our language and a lot of people when they translate
today instead of trying to translate the words just leave them
so that i

instead of trying to
express in our own terms
we accept the word an instant
so
in the old city cards and the price the polling data center cards we used to say a new terra samyang somebody's
which we now it's which now has translated as supreme perfect enlightenment
average what's an entire some acts somebody
i see supreme perfect enlightenment so you don't have to think about the insurgency because if supreme over the environment
i know at it
but if we have to try and find out with an anti-terrorism the accent bodie and they'll take as the rest of her life minutes
so
may be better to use an entire sonia from boots
deep in the back into this comes from the best
from
some history so ah
if we cut off the history of
the meaning of words
am
we live something in the process
so it better that we'd try to find out the meaning of the words
and know the words so we expand their vocabulary and
and even at the risk of being misunderstood or
mystified
exercise

with
try to find the meaning of words and getting the word so i like to use the word somebody and ah
a demystify it as well as find it's true mystery

so i hear he says
sam
when cure and was dining set chose teacher for time he said for forty years i was constantly in one piece
by this he meant that he had maintained his samadi both absolute and positive and broken throughout that time
ha
absolutely positive is utter
for mixed up his
makes a distinction between absolute and positive but he called absolute summary and hundred tonight
absolute samadhi
it is
basic mind or
a perfect composure
in a virgin
then positives about it a perfect composure in activity

without losing our composure
without losing
or with it imperative ability
ha
when he says when such a surgeon his tone
the pounds
and it was a anger in his introduction says
as for the subtle probe were know as for the subtle point where no prob can be inserted
we can set that aside for a while let's not talk about that
beckham for now has anything let us deal with setting
part of the subject
but as for the subtle place where no prob
can get him
i were nothing that means the place where know nothing can get into divide you from yourself
this is always characteristic ah
as
sometimes zen masters described as
i as steep sheer cliff
nope foods or that can't be approachable an approachable steep cliff iron silver mountains and iron clips ah
steve unapproachable cliffs everything slides off no way to penetrate
you can't even put a needle can't find a place to put a needle in
ha
this means imperturbable mind
complete wholeness seamless no no scenes know
not even one little teeny place where something can get him to open air
to penetrate
this is our

the honus are when they so
samadhi
since for us when we sit virgin no matter what
a problem areas
it can't move us
why sometimes we think of value as an endurance test
it's just an endurance test
i thought it was there was something jitters but she had just turned out to be an endurance test as if endurance are just some
sounds like thank you
yet endurance is very important

it's the yeah
nothing can get intimate make you wiggle
nothing can
ah disturb your mind
to citizens where he context great tomatoes
no chinks
don't move
we did sitting very well i'm very pleased with her
sir she
it feels the amputee
says she feels had that feeling
ah were all sitting very strong games
sincerely really sweating out effort

so this is really cause absolute somebody
positive for ninety
yes
in the activity of daily life
nothing can get it to move him disturbing that disturb your
basic who are peaceful mind
no matter what happens
that's
these are two sides
i doesn't mean that there aren't waves brother is a provocation
ha
hemp doesn't mean that you don't get angry
doesn't mean you don't have feelings
some people who are ah
i'm very
ha
this practice is very strong
looks like they don't have feelings or sympathy
they look very cold
baca
at the appropriate time and the right moment to read more
they understand

so here are as many different personalities and there
then
and ah
we shouldn't try to imitate someone else someone else's attitudes
i should be like sen
if i copy town
so it's of zen masters ah fierce
exterior
that will make me a zen master to
actually as said teacher is always different than you expected to be
if we have some idea of where teachers his legs
and they were always full
that's what he's referring to actually when he in his palms
if you turn left and right following and others lead
i would strike you as she can restrict your tesla
hence even though we are practice the same practice
ha
we should all be ourself
there are no a carbon copies
but this is the cause
how do you practice
the same bracket as anybody else and at the same time be completely yourself

have you kept them out that that story we have kicked him out that it was a
none
teresa same story about a woman
who is a nun and an you get them are net
no one could defeat her
she was hurt her name means iron jaw and she would chill out
anyone who approached her to to
in darwin combat
so ready with afraid of it

hum
i read the story
when day we a tetanus appeared unexpectedly before shingles
go was a disciple of lansing
and he said
are you not reattach emma you are warm and to be a tesla
that's an interesting answer
do you turn right or left
he asked if she said
you don't overturn
i listen to interesting insects it's a do you turn right or left she says you don't overturn
hi
which was pretty good
but before she's been a finished speaking she goes her
ah this is to bear
chiefly because it's a good story
about a woman she gets hit by a man
it really terrible winner
asked

to say something i
you don't overturn is like a challenge what else could he do
but overturn
tomorrow
they have to be careful what you said good answer it
very good answer
unfortunately she she handed him a hand only to canada
to put it in his hand

so he says

before she had finished speaking he did that she was struck by chico it is said that she should have dealt a blow to chico herself
when he asked do you turn right or left she should have
him
no
when she hit her teacher
the japan
note in are giving blows
in ah
when we read about this kind of stuff looks like they're going to killing each other
january and kidding with a stick never very means nothing
that ah
mostly this kindness
hidden in eyes is nice
bischof or is
a response
and i

not many teams in acts and in ways
i remember
in in some case
ah

oh backhoe
went up and him
capriccio slapped the average of kittens
and a commentator on the kid says
a student with no result in his teacher that
this is a kind of expression
if a student represent a teacher at guess
i'm extensive chase him out
it's a kind of and expression will have been hit it
it slammed him and me of something of them
and to hit somebody
rarely sometimes that happened the parents happened
ah here for job tweaked
one was you know

that kind of that kind
activity
theresa may's here
santa ana to wake you up
but not in a senseless really
nothing behind it

i've just started a
take an easy pass chuckles

i want to get through the and ngos introduction
this is cutting to live and breaking steel
for the first time when can be called masters of principle
first principle i said
things as they actually are
learnings are expressing through it
immediate present
and second principle is
ah talking about something so teaching those two words sometimes the first principle sometimes the second principle
then it's usually associated with the first principle
but the second principle is also uses and assistant important
so sometimes first principles sometimes second principle
i'm cutting through nails and breaking steel means
had the feeling of
cutting through the difficulties
cutting through the barriers
if you keep away from arrows and evade swords you have been failure and then
if you don't face the difficulties and penetrate them
ah you can't
get it
so
that's why we have searching
had penetrated
people say well if it were just a little easier
they can't be easier it has to be as difficult as we can get it
in order to
penetrated
unfortunately unfortunately
i don't know
but

it's hard
as for the subtle point where no prob can be inserted that's a summary
complete round nature
that may be set aside from
but when the foaming waves washed the sky what will you do it yourself in

huh
when my point is
to demystify somebody
summary if i'm not necessarily something that he can feel as as as an object
and during the sheen
we we get it
wait
certain kind of feeling that would associate with fishing
a certain kind of clearly objects take on us there
become more themselves than usual
and we feel close to objects and so forth and and to each other
but
if we expect something if we expect some animals inside or some kind of feeling or some kind of enlightenment or some
different feeling than usual
that can be a hindrance
so we should be able to go completely into recession was just normal bind
ah
please say the natural odor of mind in male subjects the natural order of month just time ordinary mind
this demand that be
sick
just ordinary mind
but the question is what is ordinary man

but don't expect anything
why we said is just said
we're not expecting anything
inside
the the six paycheck describes
how a man of the way a person of away as the sun shining
without discrimination
than just turns and shines without discrimination without knowing that a channel
it just being itself
the senate testing
with that
expecting something extraordinary
the doing something extraordinary
just
no special feeling

if you feel the same way you did when you did before you started
that's that's perfectly fine

doesn't mean know somebody
actually when her practices
really why
you can walk in and out of machine
but are hardly tell him different
his
the