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but i won't talk so long today
yeah we're basically going to talk about monasticism china and japan and
what has been as has even those countries i can't talk extensively about her history evidence system in china can refer those who are really interested to the works of homes welsh
who wrote a number of books to you got a chinese buddhism
what does them under now chinese buddhist monasticism several books like up and in which he mainly studies and modern chinese monasteries and even chinese buddhism under the communist occupation and it's vicissitudes
but he kept some glands back into the history of buddhism in china another good book is arthur rights book buddhism in chinese history for those who are interested in that in general you will find chinese historians completed neurotic about the role of i just as japanese the and idiot historians will be fairly neurotic about the role of buddhism in the history of their civilizations
because with modern times with intellectual looking back on their civilization in the light of western colonial domination of asia they sort of all of them could look back and pointed the finger at buddhism as having been that which had weakened them as the nation as a military nation and therefore had left them vulnerable to buddhism and
so people like who share and on the modern writers and china to as they all sort of blame buddhism and they kind of china press the put a moment in their civilizations and the transport of act like well thank god with neo confucianism we got rid of buddhism finally just like the that aren't hindered say thank goodness by the time by neil hinduism in the medieval
period we got rid of the debilitating influence of all these buddhist monks
so you won't get a very good picture in a way of the role of buddhism in those civilizations from many conventional kinds of history works works of history in fact in case of china
there was a lot of resistance try the chinese to the introduction of been added by the chinese government and the confusion between the introduction of monasticism from little things like for example it was considered by confusions that shaving your head was disrespect your parents and your ancestry and was a terrible sins therefore to shave your hair because get off was really putting down your answer
to to the idea that people should be free of tax to the emperor to the idea there was there it took like know it took two hundred years for the monks to convince the confucian scholars and the ministers that a buddhist monk did not have to bow down to the emperor or the duke the liberal were petty and frozen many times and chinese history chinese nation was no little unify
interesting empire and a great many of its periods
and this was a tremendous hardship and then finally the idea of not procreating and producing by descendant to worship you at the ancestral tablets the whole problem of tribal and tribal society concerned with it's sort of genetic continuum dealing with this concept that we've introduced in the last few days of a monastic monastic sort of call
or sell in that my that society has been a way that sort of issue or outcome of that society but as being a sort of non survival oriented sell and place where the energy of the beings of the society would be turned into the individual's personal liberation rather than than at any obvious utilitarian benefit of the nation but something that was extremely difficult for the chinese to
to listen to the ruling the ruling clans classes and the emperor's of china and their ministers this was very hard for them to here and they resisted it very powerfully in fact ah
and therefore for example historians of chinese buddhism have what they called the great develop that i call it like the great decay theory that is that they think that the reason that buddhism was popular for that brief moment in chinese civilization when the chinese uncharacteristically turned inward and got away from good cooking and good out the furniture making and all kinds of very
good detention to the outward material this brief moment was only because they were so shocked that the han empire fell apart when it did that day lost all faith in life and they lost old taste for good cooking and they lost to taste for the good family life and they've got into buddhism the fact that they went on with book
islam steadily for the next eighteen hundred years sort of as there no awkward fashion that they pass over that this shock last if rates in hundred years and other words i something that they don't really take into account the fact that the most glorious periods of chinese art history developed in the time and some dynasty when buddhism was at its height and chinese civilization these and awkward fat
so usually a new order left inside and they sort of jump in cultural terms from that sort of writers of the late period to zinio confucians in the second millennium after the fall of the song more during the late storm
once however however if we avoid that idea and we realize that in fact in china there were a lot of people who really liked monasticism ones that came in and in fact if you look into the ideas that confucius tried to promote the ideas of run compassion the ideas of leave benevolence i mean the propriety or
when i think the problems will probably should be translated graciousness essential a central confusion virtue please come in if you're coming a sexual confusion virtue the ideas of justice and which is the chinese character for id ego put under rulership and so forth if you if you understand these can
fusion ideas you can see that the buddhist ideas of karma and of ethics and of love and compassion and of the
selfless service of the of others and so forth these ideas are very much carry out confucius does wish and in fact the monastic or institution as we've already discussed and i won't belabor the as he dished institution becomes the educational institution that in the way confucius might have wished for push confucius and his own time never
dare go quite that far and he would have been nervous about
lack of progeny are going so much against the way of the ancestors probably but on the other hand when he was sick and tired of the bad rulers and saw how drastic it wouldn't be was to get people to come out of the stream of the ordinary tribal behavior to really develop themselves in perfect themselves as normal person's i'm sure he probably would have appreciated the strategy of a monastery in
any case the buddhists introduction of buddhism can be seen as reinforcing certainly for example dollars in which was the chinese intellectual elites form of sort of vedanta in other words they can retire from government service living on the estate earned by previous generations service of the government and then they could devote their intention to the eternal and get out of the constant conformity
constant pressure to simply be involved with the tribe this was very much reinforced by things like shunyata they love the vimalakirti sutra for example the taoists some job when he read the like your sutra he said all now i know what lounge are really wanted and the writings of or to r johnson lives in are like dust in the feet of the molecular t he said some java was a great you
as a schoolmaster as you know of of taoism and confucian classics before he became a disciple of kumar g of on the fifth century
so china to buddhism effects will filled many of the basic humanistic ideals that existed in chinese civilization previously rather than being a tremendous rents rents against the fabric of chinese civilization and the buddhist monastic institution which is our particular focus particularly provided a very important outlet or escape valve for many people who
we're really probably quite felt bite imprisoned within the very tight chinese clan system once they they got permission from the rulers to have a monastic institutions then you have nuns very happy to get away from the bow tie tie the old grandmother who was the raw arch ruler of the chinese family and to many young wife was completely
and now they will love it they going to be a not the mere price of their hair and a new set of clothes and they could meditate and then learn something and learned to read and someone there was another way for them to do so in those early days so the many sensitive women who are tired of sleeping under the old grandmother ah and we set off to the to the widow's house something if they didn't produce a silence on
we're very happy to do it many peasants who are tired of planting rice many soldiers were sick of fighting dumb wars for dumb jokes ah
it became very popular and then we see a pattern in chinese history from the early period when it first gets accepted after the hand around thirty fourth century that's every third or fourth generation that any dynasty any part of china someone had to come along and he would have a big change
your heart and he would start confiscating monasteries defrocking monks and nuns and completely like building up confucianism again and of course people have taken this to think that this was visuals reasserting of the great old chinese spirit and all this and that but what they and so this shows that really put us in never was comfortable with china doll was remains in in the third intention with the native code
the country because of his transcendental as trust it's counter to the national ego that is that it manifests and yes the other side of that stories of course that every every the other two generations but does it was becoming so popular so much of the energy of the nation was going into buddhism that the poor third generation ruler would like inherit his draw
code and he would ask his ministers to let's see like tax rolls and how many acres i'm producing how many kilos of rice and how much this and that is coming and he would a applied three quarters of the land my grandfather owned a now belongs to buddhist monasteries what hundred thousand people have been ordained in the last fifty years and i think i'm missing isn't this soldier and isn't this work
wait a minute so then they used for pull part of their lives they have a big purge and and they'd take back half of land was they had it was the land of course is the taxes land is your is your your economy or exchequer
so then they would have a big push with and usually even those was often the later part of their lives they'd feel really worried that they'd be going to tend to hell you know and they get down there and a monkey couldn't save them and so they'd build up some monasteries and temples for the end of your life and then this process we start all over the and would run out of the kitchen and run out of the rise build and run back to the monastery to do is awesome thank god if you get away from planting did you ever think about twenty
rice
bent over to and twelve hours a day and a wet thing with your features of went you know how much preferable to doing this as and sitting there and i'll do they let someone else planned money members they must move on so was like him and were therefore the wrong reasons of was a dedicated was again and get a very popular institution now zen for example when we come to say i try to be read by will
i recently when we come to said
come to them
know then we see a very interesting phenomenon and that is that is supposedly if then first comes in with bodhidharma as a sitar tradition when we call in india and tibet since our tradition of great does people who don't need the institutions although i like to see it in a do a different way in other words many people see the sedans like now
alpine india we great naropa or someone like bodhidharma and bodhidharma saying to the to the will emperor who of young you know no merit and building temples were get you when when i like to see a duchesses that he didn't like temples or monasteries because in fact he founded a monastic lydian but i'd like to see as these ciders are people who are so well trained by the monastery that they they
can spread from that to build other monasteries they have you know that was when they leave the monastery isn't because they're sick of the monasteries and i'm the devil also left the monastery but when they leave it isn't because they're sick of the monastery it's because the monastery has become completely ingrained in their heart and they have a monastery in their heart and they can go anywhere where they go as a monastery and therefore when they go
to some completely a barbarian country where there are a bunch of the cannibals or warriors or whatever a pretty soon this monastery in their heart when there's no longer and outside monastery immediately results in the building of an outside monastery was just comes right out of their heart so in other words the progression in india of hinayana monastic buddhism my on and messianic buddhism and then sit down buddhism
i'm outside the scriptures as you would say and or direct you know mind kind of buddhism direct hard buddhism is not a matter of one outgoing the other and throwing the old one away it's a matter of each one in the collapsing like a kaleidoscope like a telescope taking the other one as of lens inside of it sounds like telescoping inside so that the maya has the email
a incited and then the vagina addicts they have both my of and honor and all of the suit as they contained inside their heart
this is much more fruitful way i think i've seen it and the old dualistic way people used to say or people like to rationalize people who are lazy to really discipline themselves and really become and seventy one and the and they say on app or runaway from monastery therefore i don't ever have to go
therefore i can just indulge myself be here now and just be done groove and then i'll have done a was better than a monastery which of course is false because if one hasn't first gain some control of the passions and free of them than one cannot combine and become bound will even about passions because then one will be non dual on the wrong way as the patterns will be done dual about you
then you'll just continue to patio after they'll continue to be there tool for the next million and billion know many until you run back and meet another roast some who who helps you turn it around that another monasteries
so if you see that and you see the as zen which supposedly as beyond the monastery as being in fact the fruit of the full monastic scale training of india we reached its full and be ready to reach out to barbarians which were plenty of them all around china was always a bit backward from india in fact and when they come there than one of their users that they say will
don't need this and that they grow up and some mountain but what happens is actually that then is the one who preserved through monasticism in china
in fact the other monastic schools and the other suitors of sutra schools which they made one fatal flaw they didn't say because they were not looking quite freshly at the new reality and they didn't really started the winner really that well and they didn't read in the video would would have said which was that aren't going our rules are adapted to time and place and therefore different countries and circumstances and era you
i have to adapt certain things you can't just plug along like it's some kind of dogma except about the basic not killings on but certain things about what as six thousand you have to keep changing and they did us came and they said wait a minute these employers around here are really this chinese bureaucracy chinese tribal attitude is such that whenever we get to metastasize and to
ooh nice and two million people meditating somebody's going to come and confiscate everything besides the mumps who live in the city running after the different donors all the time they've become corrupted and they just think about getting donors time and therefore the and they are vulnerable to the purged and will happen every three or four generations so to make this is not like india where there's a tradition that you can just go and beg and the rulers prior
as and feeding is in providing free lunch this is the protestant china where there's no free lunches so therefore if we want our monasticism to be strong than we should go to the mountain and support ourselves and will change that one rule and the banal and the indian villa very important rule engine video that among should not work that amongst that plow the ground and so then
zen masters of the one who changed that rule and they said actually no work no food than business you know that just so fence and and that meant that the monks became self reliant did not rely on the patronage of the of the politics of the political rule and therefore became more powerful in a way to the political unity and therefore became the ones when the other people and eight ford
five for example when there was a tremendous purge of all the city monasteries throughout china the only ones who survive was then and then the zen far from being scripture most or monastery less became these school that preserved all the scriptures preserved all the monasteries preserved all the images and all of the arts and culture of buddhism in china was preserved in fact buys them which the
possibly didn't need any art and culture or scriptures or not so the great i kind of plastic sit our schools in fact preserved all the icons in china
similarly i think there's a similar process in japan where the monastic institutions closely connected to the government always have difficulty developing their independence from the government they were very much control the nara buddhism the government they were kind of extension of the government bureaucracy then to hey i'm it endangered were site
oil and cook i developed independent mountain monasteries and they had some kind of independence but still they had to run to kyoto and get get the patriots hey i'm not here was very close to kyoto and they were very nervous about what the different rulers had to say about so there was always a problem about getting independence from the government in japan but inasmuch
as any borders to order ever got independent from the government in japan eventually the zen institutions did so
and i will and so in fact zen and child in china and zen and japan is that form of buddhism which had almost the most powerful social impact on china and japan on its arts and culture on its politics and so forth and even though and they did it in the same way shakyamuni had his powerful impact in india
which we discuss remember the other day another which activities that i'm getting off the throne i'm not interested in politics i'm just going to make this little sand over here you know we were all going to drop out while the song that turns out to be in golden gate park and it to everybody turns to it begins to drop out half of west point of his country drops out so in fact it's a tremendously subversive
tremendously revolutionary institution that he found that all saying i'm not doing anything i'm looking for the transcendent nirvana and actually meaning it but the irony being that the one who truly transcends the world is the one who has the truly great impact on the world so just as shocking when did that as an individual in india we see the chart and the zen institutions doing that in china and japan and i always
architects and i just want to partially for fun because it illustrates my thesis before turning the floor over to the wise the teachers i want to finish with a toilet because it illustrates my thesis and partly just to for fun because it's such a dangerous thing to do in the presence of all these masters to use a to illustrate a sociological
historical point and then because of it's dangerous thrills me never i'm gonna do it
but i learned to do this or i developed to doing a sec i can do somewhat forgiven because i have been battling an academic forms for so long against all these scholars who as i say follow the old max weber's thesis that buddhism was some sort of other worldly thing that never quite landed on this planet and had no impact at all and particularly love to point to then certain people who shall be unnamed
at the moment this company and it's a see look those them message they didn't care anything about any kingdoms and planets from countries they are completely unethical they didn't care about ethics and they just often to show that and to them you could blow a bomb or for their year they wouldn't care analyst and they they love to say that and they pick out certain kind of stories of then where the zen masters show their transcendence of normal worldly concerns
to pretend that they're not actually having a great impact on sentient beings to pretend that they're not actually exercising the great compassion of truly transforming chinese society
and so to just despite them i always love to read a t co out of the blue cliff record according to tom clear his translation i know some people who don't like tom cruise translation eyes i like it i have looked at the chinese impact and i've asked many chesterton scholars and even masters and message who claim that is that good and i've asked them for single with degrees in a via
one character that was wrongly translated and no one has yet shown me one sentence and i read chinese haltingly but i read it and not yet shown in one sense that was blatantly mistranslated
that's the reason that history i think it's so good is because it's written and could they call themselves are in colloquial chinese of the tang dynasty which nobody speaks anymore you haven't seen any time down as the hippies around lately
and nobody knows quite different when many of the things meant they depend on medieval chinese and german and later japanese commentaries and that's all just suspected of as we might speculate and cleary had the temerity to translate into colloquial english so he's sort of made the total jump you know as a matter of intuition non dual intuition though he landed he went from colloquial tang dynasty chinese that right down to
the to berkley berkley street talking so how can some people in tokyo or kyoto evaluate that they don't know what american colloquial english is like to have no idea when you think where someone is act but they don't know what that means
don't worry about one go when time series there's no one knew where he was active sometimes took some great scholar supposed to and scholars when and done what that means it has gone so i claim him incompetent the job done
exclusively ours
anyway i love this particular hot and i'd want to read it as a political tract as a jeffersonian document in chinese and politics
in case it's called national cheat national teacher john seamless monument
emperor and the case as he translates to call on you know public case it translates emperor susan asked national teacher we job
gets emperor of the tang dynasty most powerful man journalists the chinese nation and the old imperial way he said after you die what will you need december asks this master
the national teacher said
build a seamless monument for me
the emperor grown that's not a year and said please tell me master what the monument would look like a seamless monogram is you don't know seam between to stand between two boards and seamless with no cme know so i'm thinking about the carpentry of that
what would it look like the national teacher was silent for a long time
ultimate escape
he then he said do you understand
and very common raisins
the emperor i came back with a killer the then kill our friends and i don't understand
mahmoud you adopt problems or that would go down i know knowing no no yes the famous same side as well time i use so long ago and no know knowing would yoda
google that
who the national teacher said
i have a disciple to whom i have transmitted the teaching time you are who is well versed in this matter please someone him and ask him about it
after the national teacher passed on apparent of the emperor was in no hurry
after the national teacher didn't pass on jan were some of the tang on and asked him what the meaning of this was
taiyuan not in a loss for words said
south of chicago north of time in between there's gold sufficient to a nation
beneath the shadow was tree the community ferryboat
within the crystal palace there's no one who knows
and they don't say what do that
the nobody meme
nobody says now
this dummies know there's a hidden with the commentary i'd just rather than a little i will come to thank you
he says
the relationship between the emperor and this children and there's master to know the emperor treated general was himself an editor was presented student have no impact on the nation and nations like china when there's end when the emperor of the nation is your student you don't tell me does not having any impact the emperor treated john with the you can do to a teacher and greatly honored him doing that
does the zen master ones lectured on the supreme power for the emperor when the master departed from chords the emperor himself has scored his carriage and saw him off the years were all angry at this and wanted to make their displeasure known to the emperor that it's the confusions they were furious emperors would get down off his drone they were furious about because position of the emperor was all important to
confucians charisma and position and playing games about where you sit to total beijing in china
ah but the national teacher had the power to know the minds of others so he saw the emperor first and told him in the presence of indra as the king of the gods
i have seen emperors scattered like grains evanescent there's a flash of lightning
the emperor respected him even more after this
so then it goes on and
about the extremis monument and he doesn't really give a we only have this is sort of i know there's one more thing want to do my late teacher who do that the writer of the the compilers look at figures of my late teacher woods who brought up the seamless monument and said in front it is pearls and agate in back
it is agates and pearls on the east or have a look at edgewater and maha dhamma propped up on the west are manjushri and some other weather and in the middle there's a flag blown by the wind seeing flat flat
the national teachers' that do you understand the embrace that i don't understand yet he had attained a little books but tell me is this i don't understand the same as emperor wu as i don't know that is the who are pretty down item or is it different although they seemed the same
and actually they're not
and then it goes out of the comments you now let's just look at us as they are you really want this country and i will close with the poem or commenting poems it's so beautiful but that's less less look south of show wasn't time means and who this is a deep point i know and you have to manage of these ten years and be hit over the head of number of times and all this know grab a burger and then you might jump out the window
something you know but without knowing i'm not knowingly i'm doing it there's a few clues that we can young
we saw them shine and north of time it means everywhere some touch shankar is the birthplace of the national master tool it's the name of a town sheung time it's like saying south of new and north of york south of san northern francisco that everywhere throughout the country that in between there's gold sir
efficient to a nation member our terms of are saying what i said before that the buddhist principle of dharma and the member this is described before that this is describing a seamless monument now a seamless monument remember money but now now a national teacher is a great man and a ruler now it's going to honor a great man okay we honor washington and jefferson we
put monuments up and people who have see them once in a lifetime or they see a picture and then they go back to business as usual back in the senate and they cheat and they are corrupt and a deal and they don't practice the dharma and they don't try to become enlightened and they made two separate spheres out of the nation and natural greedy behavior and religious behavior a similar monument means that you can only make a monument that is the whole life
of the nation you can only honor enlightenment by putting enlightenment throughout completely to feel the life of the nice clearly it has to be and so the vibro is wise men don't seem less monument monument i don't get to are you by putting a fenced off place where we go and then we are nights when we're there people in original when they're in the of them they're nice i love most injured means i love you when they go on the
engine is the i hate you i you are you making their wash the dishes twice you dropped a plate so we want to have two spheres he wants to on was temper to have all one sphere where enlightenment is the life breath of the nation with a nation is for enlightenment enlightenment enough for the nation in the nation is for education in ourselves that we made in the last couple of days
it's not that education is to produce some people to produce something was on nation okay so in that sense the emperor catches that right of a seamless monument or half maybe he catches it let's give them more credit uses then adept and and actually what i perceive when you asked them to make the national budget concentrate on education we can't afford it
we we don't have any money with can't have various scholarships we can have schools is no free lunch or going to have to work after arming missiles how can we pay so many schools and then those over to pull to have some of these endurance we can have the a w as the went not into
so therefore he says in between the kindest country there's gold sufficient to a nation wealth is the matter of whether you think their wealth if you have an idea of abundance there is abundance if you're done there is so he completely cut out the and present economic excuse to start with this nation is full of gold there's so much call there's no don't know what to do with so much golden to me
millennium the british will come and try to steal it
then okay then you still can see most vehement the nation is enlightenment or we're going to go back to old fashioned tribalism some sort of primitive animism where everything is sacred and the ground and earth and the receipts are sacred and therefore the peasants can stay in their field moaning and groaning and not get educated in the ladies in the kitchen and we'll just say it's sacred and it's or one and undo or so let them slain is it that kind of similar
monuments and we make a non-jew a monument where ignorance is not du linge arjun everything know he says beneath the shadowless tree the community ferryboat the shadow was tree is which tree is a tree of enlightenment the tree that is beyond sun and moon and day and night and duality is the tree of them the enlightened nervous system is the bodhi tree or which
is the tree baron life and death blogger blog and you can find on so many other things and huguenots to remain silent but at one level we can clearly see it as a symbol of the dharma the source of the diamond the put as heart that the actual dyneema which is not a doctrine but the tournament of which is freedom at south the truth of the dynamic kaja transcendent reality itself this is the shadow was tree
all ordinary trees dualistic trees or have shadows now beneath that channel this tree although it has no shadow there is a beneath it has a shelter of something what should it shelter that shannon was tree a community ferryboat a community ferryboat does not allow monism to create non dualism to creep over into monism and say that it's all ones and nobody needs edges
cation a ferryboat takes people across from one shore to another it takes people from the shore of ignorance to that shore of enlightenment it takes them back and forth and it comes back for those will have find that it takes them over it is the monastic institution in china it is an educational system in china unfortunately nobody quite finish this seamless monument yet
in china so they kept a separate confusion government school and the monastic schools and then later they were kings kept throwing them away in any case the ideal wants to have the whole system of the nation's education devoted to the carrying of the individuals across on this community ferry boat
and then finally that king might have one final excuse he might see okay i understand i got enough money and cancer that's nice because nobody can agree to invade us we have these greatest empire under heaven we have so many rice plants we don't know what to do with it plenty of gold so i can't see that enlightenment is lots of here i can't say we don't have a with the shadow was tree has erected from
hearts and minds of many enlightened beings the dharmas fully hear the community fair about we know about the vinaya we know this to trials with know the individuals should have their life their precious human life to use to achieve enlightenment even those peasants in the field of possible okay i know grown and moan but maybe i would i've been to think about it a little longer he might change
maybe i lay i would i have to understand history maybe if we do this too soon will be conquered by the barbarian mongols come into soon area to lose our national defence maybe something will go wrong until i know for sure maybe i'm gotta get a you put on myself first before i really turn that nation over to the dharma so i since i don't know for sure i'd better not do it
and then his last within the crystal palace there's no one who know
even buddha doesn't know in the way you think you're going to wait to know of course but also knows everything but in another way even when it doesn't know in the way used to going to you going to wait as an excuse to not enchanted a most famous statement buddhas are beings who act only for others benefit as children are beings who acts for their own them for when you actually for others benefit
you are buddha that is being done to put up as well she says that's when do we treat other things like buddha's when you treat them for them not for yourself not for any end of your own that they are the ends in themselves to you but i have nothing left to do is completely porn is living in di matteo you order a higher due to talk about ultimate border imagine everything has just dharma kaja nothing
can agitate out of the dharma kaja no form no agitation no excitement can break free of the complete uniformity of emptiness democrat and therefore there's only people who think it isn't that okay i have anything of interest to do that therefore buddha only interest is to unravel their confusion can only exists for them
so therefore without knowing you asked brothers you are buddha that means emperor without knowing for sure this history that has to you just open the gates of your nation you unilaterally disarm on this planet of nations you become tolerant you become a nation that is enlightened you turn over your national budgets your national energy your national thing to enlightenment and this way you can remember
rate nice as the enlightened master we join in this way you build me a seamless monument
i don't pretend you don't know and you're going to know later and then you'll be unselfish and since you don't know you can still be soft
it just one little attempt i know it's an academic knowledge than way of doing it to the academic attempt i just thought that you can see how much fun i had an academic conferences with it though rejecting colleagues who tried to pretend that zen had no impact on society in china and japan over the thousands of years that have lived here to conclude in the verses written by shred all the writer of the look of the compound the look of record
just because they're lovely then i will stop says the seamless monument
to see it is hard a clear pool does not admit the blue dragons coils there's upon layers shadows upon shadows for ever and ever it is shown to people

now that's sort of academic talk perhaps now you can time i don't know the order we did did we didn't decide to order but
if you will go ahead and talk about your sense of well as to system in japan or lands a wedding
i think
you want to scold me that's all right how's the patient
can
yesterday i listened to the to talk explanation or for tibet monastery gay ah now determine talked about the chinese monasteries the cetera
i feel kind of like jealousy you for tibet the monastery and ten years monastery
because they are building a wonderful seamless monument to zen buddhism in china in tibet it's going on right now but independent the computer a bit difficult to say about that so i have to build up or maybe use this
boring money to japanese in criticism
ah
i think some of you
they went to the and
the you already saw the japanese present situation of the monastery
i think you don't understand japanese so our bodies to idol lisa
that's very strange situation there
ah but i can say in a better our basic got the spirit of japanese and monastic system or from my experience
i probably i can tell you exactly the scholastic point of view about japanese one nasty system but i can say little a bit about japanese monastery monastic system
i became a monk gay at eighteen years old and before that though at that photo a fifty years old i visited the the a small same monastery
because i i had the put a chance to visit to with my friend alex
a friend of mine who was a
the son of boss subtle than the priest is so i went to visit their that there was no reason why i went there they just visit there
so i was very surprised because completely different situation there but circumstance this was a perfect peace peaceful i was there surprise but the that was already before second war one
now i was not interested in the monastery and diacetyl like person do you say it was completely different there are because i'm from another or yeah my my family's right was in all the previous situation you know running
the business and japanese restaurants and need centers every days i have i had never had like the vey warm communicate communication with the pyramid scheme the father and mother's mother was elvis same bed in by with sick sequence for many years so
i couldn't have enough communication warmness my father was very busy with running the bases since they're so ah my brothers and to get was the families live on the the situations of i was the youngest thing
no so whatever i want to do they don't kiss
so anyway but the time and i was growing and growing up with a baby business situation
so i've visited within monasteries and day i was back shock it caused him private peaceful than from perfect piece i have never had she knew
then the second world war as going in the oven to i joined the army and the air force the winner was sixteen years old underdog
then after second world war the i was on and then was the my friends also they said to ah the a visit to the gym monastery in the again so i visit
second visit at the i was also they pick shocked by the second visit because situation of a zen monastery never changed and same situation but in my life i in my family's
the the situation after second world war before second will come pretty different victory
but zen monastery mother exactly peace
but the they suffer not the from the launch of a food etc but life raise the exactly going smoothly piece i never see i never saw anything to change so x i was big shock again
then while the i decided to become a monk and the when i was eighteen
and then i went to
a monastery or the
but i didn't have any idea about what them than teaching was what the same model of monastic life was just went to and then i'll just went to like a monastery then there was also big shock for me because every
day was completely set up in a pond are three o'clock at that time or three o'clock and get up and you have to get up at a fair crack the three aircraft to the nine o'clock at night you know exactly whole schedule are they all days a compressed set up
and everyone except the far that they ideally one eight months monitor didn't have a set the rod visitors we have now pretty quiet situation right after the second world war but it's society president the atmosphere of society was a very confused but age
monastery still very peaceful and they borrowed the same schedules and are living in peace in my so everything they everything was a completely new for me and tontine and to
hundred to twenty monks but in tibet and in tibet monastery the entire and six sixth a seven thousand monks chanting every day debating and can you imagine how wonderful in that situation of huge mistake and move to come up everyone
pretty separate anyone
you cannot get any of the original you know exactly you are the you are embraced in on purim and
restaurant review
lieutenant know sixty six and seven thousand monks that i knew when i was a monastery i took care of two thousand people but though they were visitors not mock know but a to and if you have to take out two thousand people that have made
you really busy
have forgotten everything we get around were really about like any of the it active things and don't have been cutting the at tottenham vegetables with a hand dryer for two thousand monks can you imagine how can you take care of six thousand people are and
and some pop
how come by table
and preferred why wouldn't they dress
our day or like to visit the you will not activate activated mask in the car
the i will like to advertise to be saved by voters we had america
i've been in development
yeah so i did dear life at the life pattern in a monastery is they clear and rhythmical life is very rhythmic up without saying anything just listen to the sound of the bell from the zendo
and had told buddha whole the downhole just listen to sound and then you can know what to do now it was really fascinating for me
you know the people so cooking usually my family are busy and or running the business it's an ominous screaming and the you should do this and yeah sure jennifer
this does can guess the country you have to and welcome where would you have to in on received the people than customs and saying welcome here what can i do for you some you know that but you know war that one now was very impressed for me
so my life was anyway going on and in that situation and most impressed the things was and not debate debating in or the independence debate we call your son
showtime means to exactly kind of been debating the a week at the then student says and dumb of fighting pune to mumbai
damn combat it come back and
i don't know it is
that patronizing anything so i would be surprised to see that situation you know use just say something to that their masters and roshi in the roshi answer the media trip on a bench with a short plays and sentence in this etc to using the traditional
or term it's big term you don't understand what it is what is an entertainer
but how can you know tattoo that you can impact the spirit so i was very impressed the idea understand what he said but permitted on the chuck every time
so i get them something from that it's i was very impressed the i really wanted to do that so one day i had a chance because i i was the head mark in the they thought for the training sessions for free at the three months of training does from now as
from numerous monks are i had given asking the questions of first so i was a proud on the cell and i didn't do and then immediate i was they the i had the intention kind mutations on or and also dead end
the i felt kind of by shaw who neon to happen i have to do exactly right
and then quietly move slowly and asked me here they of the immediate to answer to my crushes the country i was pissed up
hands and
yeah
no hundred am i remember what i said i remember what i said but sent after that can trigger i don't know
yeah i don't know what it said
yeah
so i thought oh this is a dynamic combat
the what it isn't on
but i was very impressed us are when it seemed like it came to united states and i had the first time the training session in at protests are so they i explained a what the schedule of a monastery size and team says it was there
erin set up a scheduled in thing a there i i couldn't escape from the combat dumb comment
so anyway i did you know the other time my questioner i had to be a roshi know a little bit difficult but
the
then
a in the beginning everything is fine
you know that my english my english is currently kind of the english
contributors your home through the calgary english i have the answer has perfect as i can name the beginning on it and it's are there was all right ever seen by and they know middle one of the student a glue used to practice said at the a new york xander and inside that me
he came up in front of me and immediately scream would remain valid question
huh
right in front of me
here
i'll tell you now
the
i've got of five i was tempered up
seems like a jumper
right out that i have to say something
wow was i have to say something jumped up in the immediate i say go back to your room
those and
and
there was watching
time we can feel like a two thousand five hundred and ninety kids mosaic and then everyone laugh
the i thought this is a combat
disability is going to get any reasonable bulletins
i was kinda says i was very shamed or me because i jumped up by in want and i didn't turn around
the like they did i miss
my team and know i i didn't tell anybody is actually a lie
smoking
yeah
so you know thou who that must he is
have been you to get my that visitors

am
anyway days
i'm sorry
me
yeah tell the students on the system of age monastery the ability purity the they confused and also spirit of vinaya is already the run going well okay then you cannot think expect that the spirit of
vinaya from my age monastery or at the buddhism zen buddhism as a day hall in japan know so soto then is the kind of was strange situation because most people read then through the book at the
the knows most of people know that then through the book so that then is rinzai zen some people believe then is very popular in japan and supported by employers and right center
and also helping a japanese culture and japanese peoples so much but soto zen is complete know as near the dark and dingy you know jogging daisy didn't help japanese car at all
on the all it as the rinzai zen must have made in there must have helps the japanese culture so documents counter you can see now is really established by zen teacher they didn't i think nice photos anything so subtle then
is really boring
don't want to visit
but i think spirit of sort of then it's a spread spread is the basic human nature of japanese life xm rooted ah i say my us or they're boring them are they use this boring that they would say a monument of then
and this is really true
if you expect something from subtle then you immediately feel boring
but it's really deep it's really do for instance this it's sort of the spirit of dogan then this away is penetrating to japanese some basic nature of right they don't care the religions and they'd serpa exactly particular
early education educational system in japan that school education generous living voices
the
depends if you want to be a carpentry and story tellers you have to ask do you have to find a teacher and of go there and lived there and learn that it for the story and his soul soul from the teacher
and then the several time with their teacher kick kick kick you out you know but nevertheless you shouldn't leave the again and again you should ask this is a first fact it it's ridiculous and from the more than sense
so anyway and then they if you are allowed to accept you can live there with a teacher convenient barbara from the next day
teacher never give you how to tell the story
all you can do is to clean the house and fix them we're cleaning the yard that's a ridiculous can finally use the the you think you know why why you want to be or stolen care why do you want to be
in carpentry carpenter because no nonsense it's useless office get up in the morning and the creating thousand and making a black first and made center
but this stay at this educational system is some very important for for us voices that
according to the bay at the modern educational system i think you have to learn a b c d ok in eight i j k e m d and over reddit and two thousand thousand and where you have to memorize can that you have to learn one
by one
but i think the human knowledge is limited you never have a memo lights and everything perfectly in you never digest everything to perfectly so as someday you forget the be you know when the people ask you what did you learn at the school yes i learned the a and
the about what what are the be i don't know what a be never american
in all the so it's bay great in a systematically if you learn something a b c d e f g but it is not perfect because around the a if you have to focus on studying the memorizing a thinking that they can
contemplating but alarm the a do you know how many mediate mediate being exists a mound even your everyday life for instance when you get up in the morning how many me how many beings exist psychologically and also mentoring
mentally and materialistic how many beings exist allowed
but at system according to systematic said it's an educational says you just a focus on a the ignoring the many being connected with a
but this system of education and a they're they're running something through the grading the house and making a black first than they're taking care of a broom and the shovels the day after using in a clean the suburbs and you have to
to put back in their blooms what it was exactly in the if you you cannot destroy in away teacher always look at what you are doing so it can you don't if you behave improperly immediately he said you should do this in that way
so that is a educations and then where is the that and if the learning a day around many beings allow under a you have to really want but they did then in one of these system didn't give you a
first they give you many beings are wrapped lot that you have to take care of around many things
this is very good for us years since i am talking about this am talking now
the you pay attention to me always and then you you know what i'm talking about so you memorize the you know what i said then going there after listening and then the next day that day after tomorrow is that somebody said what kind of the
said about the japanese monasteries is game but but you can say yes he says a he sits up or be he says so what to see is you forget
but around the see maybe that you might in black cat in a walking in problem
and then maybe you don't pay attention black head but the you pay attention to read barbara kept walking you from
if you don't pay attentions but it is very important was so cat you don't pay attention is exactly contents of your right
consciously or unconsciously so you have to live together so how can you hear you know totally what situation in what situation you are living it's huge that system area
then that's it then teaching and also huge all japanese that the people educate their disciple and etc like that
and then from that education system we can facilitate development of intrusion
do you understand intrusion ms you can catch the whole situation not picking up a one
consciousness all was picking up one but mid interesting is exactly catch the whole situation if i see the that gentlemen exempted interesting kept the poor picture of the one gentleman
and then next consciousness that work and pick up one k o his nose beautiful something neither
so you have to educate you have to facilitate development of education and no intrusion means you have to anyway educated you and others as a whole to understanding to accept situation and home conclude so he or
the to says system medical education education you can't run around many beings among a b c
so that's why it's really boring
i went to i became a monk and the studying and the and then that studying or living with the my teachers and he he didn't give me anything every day i have to at i had to get up in the morning watching detecting the sutra you know the doesn't
and making breakfast with my washing his cross and and picking up a grasses in the yard he would just bear going on the by myself in the rainy seasons i'd pick up a grass this car and i've finished that the horse it your whole yard and then end of the
cleaning with our whole yard and there i look at the beginning
i started it's already a new grass grow a were to come back again that every day going thought i was really suffering rock n roll my life why i became a monk
but this is that was really good for me
so this is what they saw that then there than way or by education is give you two point where is added to learn the human life as a whole day as a whole facilitate
during the development of your intuition intuition second this m through this education you can practice naturally equal christmas
because he godlessness
so no room for me to poke my head you know because everyday busy in my everyday have to do it
so this education is really based on dogging the way of for bulletin to the he mentions the in the shop or gender etc
so it's not choi it's not sure it's not the emphasizing so much in all of the a fantastic thanks so every day we have to take your everyday life that is same applied to a monastery and or the small
monastery around the in in the around in depend i visited twice so that's why it was i feel the bay peaceful rama is and then that the monastic right
ah
three new
ah ah that the uk day
i should i say something that maybe you should say something
the next time
and we have about fifty minutes
we weren't for him when we
the evening
wants been more than buying them we could start out for them any questions which the discussion so far

at nine will take we have some questions or you know your and it's another cock was not reserves only some question would be fair that i think about mover or a run over by miles long and opportunity of library
record
right on top
ah but no one one more thing is that the anyway
a just them i went back to japan to see several people and
talking about what this is not exactly yeah you know are clear the definite decision but don't we are thinking fact to think about international monastery for american people and it there
the talking they're looking at term japanese a situation i don't accept exactly cabinet when as situation in the exactly
but the so maybe yo we have to do something anyway
when for japanese it very difficult to change
north for americans invaded going to start really then
oh and die etc
anyway we are bought the american and japanese whatever i got of it i compute not compute the little bit the concern something about yourself
somebody has to do some of 'em anyway
so maybe we can ah we can start to do with them
i don't know why but i have to make up ground for next year in japan though i have to do it
i don't have a any money instead of but they didn't wear it with try
let's try one try to an impromptu cinema as tablature the international monetary
in japan
i don't know
but we can i can stop building a bridge or and
your third bright during her bridge from there zone the
ah

poke about good
no
i spoke to
you can
monastic structure overload
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to school
will will reread the time
hmm
something would do
in
the if is showed through our productive year i like i can do one more poor costume
thief who who's boot
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building on the to be
due to consistent
and whoa whoa
people are not deserve
living in there in the physical monopoly
building june
do you
are here
the about seventy five buildings and duan master
established the time
and all of them
well connected to with
corny dogs
laika
bane know bar
but the
hmm
but the main prison close to be over a hygiene me especially aig either
where he
functional
construction
books that i that business
the main hall would play with take place in the highest part of the
another staple here side of the ten pro that federal called darren dharma home
in the
then
three to be at all
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in santa is a good the horn
and straight below that
in the center in the main mounting gape
and facing to the the three buildings
the right side you
what gives a natural
a majority in if i place my head as i learn a whole
then the
we need
gita as made me
boom
that

i put up with the whole
all that extra happening is that country
and the
that left side
it's ah ah the kitchen is a gun
the right side
is
maybe you can be heard
the to the lung
in located ten dollars
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i down and don't have the right
let them try and get a paper
the bathroom with through and okay
i play day
and basing grow is located
like time
this is how the wrong structure of the building
is end
and
when will you are rainbow old friend the
cut zane philip wilson
this they do a haji in practice with us
and he was very into a real person
walking along here the therefore look
regular member remember the stockholder soccer power and football for yeah most valuable players and all invade guy
the
and the louder
they were talking in the ah
you on the monk to gathering gloom about this size
lou in he expressed to him feeling about boom
a ahead he and his hebrew
his own
feeding who he is
hmm
who's the he said
a thing on the christian a in each time it felt the right a horseback riding
and ag
he building and functioning air through
you could giant to riding on the hair
with to remind me the stupa that the national master on talking about the
in one of the corn case grew clear
there are many things when that kong in how to build the how to build the
true
he's super quick do
cristo
crystal clear long can be
only you could he a but you do not to know how
if if the in shaping
it's hard

you might say the universe itself
but that the universe to you might say it is will
you are
temple
still hello
your own interpretation about the how are you one thousand with
hmm
it is very true
he said also oh
being in the monastery and were the you know monk
who is right car
brother going through the whole by a guy in the coming through the though is right car going through lung
and
caddy the new octogenarian and go again everybody that girl making an impression
with my for be very helpful for you especially who practice
in the communal be
cracked his ear
and

i actually came from
it is the monastery
directly to tassajara to helpful
check at a blue you know new you and to bear
first the l that hello
maybe without knowing horror movie
living condition novel and p over
manas monastic life gonna think practice in this country at that time
really
but they knew room
rhonda
high school time i was do
sensing something going for happened to my life
hmm
the summer of the
hey can you think
who years old my head he my master after the ah trying ceremony of blue
japanese irrigation
the
came together in tempo
for
commemoration of they are
username father passed away in the second world war
him he i was lisa and i e the doshi and like a went back to the backroom other the temple
and he
cafe and
said probably come across to me

i still remember he was very serious his face with various areas
now that anyone evil over
know now you're going to go out from with dog
poke through those people
hi there
the than the
you dream father
hmm
i have never spoke i had never spoken in public good
after before that the time thought of not ireland so supply
and the i have you prepare the anything to pay
he can be you have no choice for probation

me now
ended that pool making my hood wow
at that too
a showed to talk
the not told me
the soldiers nazi doctors those who passed away at the japanese
a move on
oh yeah
conductor protector
but that all people who sacrificed to in the ball
i want to need them them their life game i've got my lap
and the
moist infinite to do
study on

all all times exposure the who
no
see for three
he drew me i good the right
all the moon
where no saints and sages
my daddy or do
literature was the poke a thong viola here with the whole world
people going to repeat the car
god and i feel
you can do
hi my study on
knowing
those ancient to a people we a new we know they are living there and
they are the literature
in the library
have the detect the book that table on a whole time i want to really read the with people is vital he

when is the cry of who was very rarely hard agreed to interview experience
graco peaceful
the certain me
all
dad to concentration to fit that food
best kind of atmosphere in this group prevent society
we're lucky to be able to practice in this atmosphere
together or joining from the outside from the
the guy who among people
and yet to
contradiction of the put no achievement pogo peace
the more you
kurt bake for you are you are able to current debate then burned but
harmony and peace over the alive
as a person at the rain and the mailbox sangha immediate member of sangha
the in pencil the new he collect to the halfling on
other people the favor or continue through challenge how to
be child how to go
and the big gala
how can make it
jim gin ricky ponting grade but i'll go well and then a t and be renewed
tony day the condition we have got
feel the
creating monastery he is a fish clue

the margins be case to
i can happen
not pretend to the cheap change of the world
by structure been to
no true
hello
brotherhood and sisterhood to extend in the world i think that the the key point
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