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Rohatsu Day 6

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it should always be this way
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next i went to work out i went to a first yesterday i talked about to a bit
about kitchen practice
today and we'll talk a little bit about surrey practice how we serve meals and how we accept meals
i'm like and introduced anything new i just want to remind us of what we already know

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i think i'm kidding about how he m find a middle way
you know
without setting up something tedious and nurture you should be setting up something
yeah
an alarming
does it to extremes tediousness and i guess a mechanical loading like
an anxiety setting up an anxiety in setting up a tediousness you can the same thing
but then when we serve food
like especially
somebody like sharing all of which comes up in new pieces
we serve a full scoop first
so if you take us and scoop and enlist the receiver it goes like this yeah you given the full scoop
to receive it goes like this
she can of shit upper kind of
intimacy
now how much would you like to bouquet
that doesn't take very long and really
but if you take a little bit he go

he's an assessor for tedious and
to
we get on with it
if so the first group
and the first group is calling
and then
but you didn't know if it's receiver didn't say anything and other full school
and then you look at each other and any receivers is or
and that's it
summary see some series
link with the water
will be very like if and little stream
the family keeps going on on anything well it must be fooled by now
and then it's okay and then you look down and just a little bit of
hey
several we cannot go
and i fucking before
when you go like this they don't see it
you have an awful the waterfront so these are the two extremes
a certain sensitivity is required you know but not not too slow not too quick to strike
he have crushed him on the servers of do we actually open people's eyes or kind of
raise our eyes a little bit and be aware will depends on which necessary
you know
do it
hmm
the usually you can body the body language is important so to express of through body language to the point and to look for that language film tells the server will not really you know be looking for what the receiver
intention
and vice versa
so you have to be able to do it in time soon as if effortless that
so visit to extremes
the full scoop first was the first ball and then if there's no indication and then it was good but would you see an indication like this november when it is than a little bit and it best
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certain i play with it he said i would like to say that for this through experimentation with the last fifteen years i found that if i do a little is they want more a little more a little more so what i've done and it works pretty well as not a full scoop but maybe a half or such a
and that soy and as correct or and i'll say that i don't have to keep doing that yeah well going really know there's the did it
this what to saying about it is the actuality felt the know there are subtleties
and everyone has their own kind of of doing things within the system so
the we say about it
can you have a evening
huh
and software hey
what about the other side in terms of our singling yes there are a different place people signals well yes will you have your shit to and well or your you
think i'm a jig school
which is where people use enough
you the special our trespasses as petulant
so
am
you need you're holding a spatula or is set situ or your chopsticks or your spoon
now the prints know
here's hoping the bullets were holding the only one end and whatever it is you're holding your right hand of never leave some present nothing like the second okay provisions happening
the official to on it yeah people are kind of correctly or latter detail i know
i don't think it's just a minor detail yes i think what was just totally with your up your so let's see or your hand assets and whatever your hand or whatever is in your head including nothing
hey let's say your health but i usually have my sense and i go like this and i want the water to stop i go like that some years ago
it's physically that i usually just go with that in illness
you know respecting the server you're not trying to hit the subaru and that's it will join
differentiate okay let me nutrition status
but it's interesting because we all have our own just positions and so it was an abrupt as a smooth and was a rough you know but i like people like that through the top
but anyway this is applications
but main thing is this ever stop
yeah i hope my settled in my hand
my right hand and a bowl who lived in it's just that but sometimes it's just the hand sometimes is the spoon from time to just fix with the salad is to chopsticks
i'm holding my right hand the ball in manhattan

subtle
if we i'm sorry people it's it's interesting though is helping cut off the flow of water food and i i feel like this is someone does this same are you okay so that i think that's that's just my reaction this person has of an expression of
life that is not the way i do it and i tried at it to judge it but yet it's that feeling arises i wish they would just do this where would you suggest
and all the servers that are recipient of an abrupt or a to can timid movement i would say report the report it fell about report how we relate to each other
how are we relating to each other what do we think what is the receiver think of this of the server you know and the latest this shit how does the several think about the people in make soon
so if the server
believe that the person it's being served with buddha then act like that then you respond to that person as you will respond to boot buddha and if the server going to pink person being soon realized that basic by buddha
then they respond according to what you feel good it
the treating each other in buddha
the server insert
dealing with a respectfully that recipient if they see the server as good as a will act accordingly act according the the ten years these different expressions well you know i can't tell you what to do
i understand that the as for my own practice i'm just tried i've tried to like how best to be seized okay guess not consistent with my view of that sort of quiet subtle and essentially whenever because
have a few years ago you see my upset the politic okay i'm getting this now from for the cut off the asshole
okay
i love you anyway
this
have you can do enjoy it
isn't it so that whatever is happening with the other person however they're interpreting it's their life that are interpreting this way and has very little to do with me and then maybe an interaction happy that it has also been interest that purported
you are saying then i have to give this possible from my side of later not responsible for how i take it if the fans all around responsibility yeah i'm actually i can understand because they actually interestingly enough this has happened to me in this session when i was serving and somebody was was mad at
me
personally and the way that this person was using
at the first time that this havoc it kind of shock me you're like wow that didn't realize you know
that's what this person's illness life is like that linker like that we can't control it was to work this out with themselves and then my responsible cases
i don't like doing yeah that's infinitely it's like you know
you present if we present the use and people do things the way they do
so you can't control everything
the safely with or your kids you teach somebody to aoki live and then i didn't forget everything and nothing they were how to do and i feel very frustrated you know know
teach people to do oriente that unless you do it every day over and over again three times a day it doesn't get into your bones that the thing about away aoki is and we weren't nice thing about it as you watch on the bowls you know and and everything tara of and in actually watched the enough it's
so sweet
but there's a way to do with its logical for all the movements of illogical and one will be flows into another in a certain way it depends on how you hold your head this way to put things in a and love utensils and and then this way to put them in later yourself has led to do with how you use
teach that and expect people that have found there is difficult so we just do or the best began some people like him some people don't but if you do it according to the magic
yeah he realizes it's like a wonderful flow of movement
and you really enjoy doing okay because of that wonderful flow of movement and logic but like crazy if you don't know an allergic
that's why we're doing things that formerly danger to the death but it's is to wonderful object to with each movement closing the next that really makes it kind of wonderful event
pets how to teach because even you do teach it
people forget and the should do i often run over
bay we we do it anyway because it's even though you're do it
perfectly it's okay i don't get frustrated removed just some time because i like
the has been talking that are your lesson for many years actual the yeah i asked him when i was just outlaw social directing or seven wrong
i before the know
no guy used to love the that's what came back to me after so many years of nothing here can choose to really thrive on the way that she folded yeah you know a little cough and all of that and that came back so funny you know and was like
she was here but why things are way to do that is to have different people you know people who can do it well in a show two or three people at a time because to do everybody at the same time is impossible
and i'm sitting up here you see is reviewing a meeting the opposite that's one thing that makes it very difficult and is doing everything in the office in the opposite way so to have a person sitting on each side and then you shoot and and that would have been in a number of people to do that and the intention to do
that's why when i'm happy to have at them
then is the beginners i mean the guests both is one way the
les personnes both is another way and the principle of cynthia
this subtle differences
so but i know it
if you keep asking how we can do it you have to ask and then okay if somebody has to motivate
some petition around
hundred assistance
one of the other thing is
when it comes to fast and slow if the servers are walking up the aisle real slow
then it's tedious when are they gonna get here
there's a like up too fast when it when robbery so just find the right pace it's not too fast not too slow but it keeps things moving
oh then when singers coming up with them with the serving
yeah like them with the trays with the water or with path he
you don't want to hold something over your head or over your eyes
i would say just hold it
each one is lifted the water is maybe like this that you decide the path down here because you don't wanna strain yourself holding the pathway up
instead but the thing that breathing into it which is
i don't care if you beat into it
the recession is evolving and she got me
but don't hold stuff them to do your head
at like when you put to gusher if you held up your fingertips the bottom of your nose not up at eye level and that appear fitted tightly enough
that's you
so when you hope like the holding a tray
and it's the country for and you hold the tray out and bow the that but slightly that your body but you bury your head
but you don't tell the truth
j stationary
in about like this with the path is well holding but hold it out a bit and in them
when
so
that that's a kind of dignified way actually i'm going to a million and feels good
she's always to think about where you put the water jar and were doing the letter
the way i was time we can keep changing our time that you put the letter you standing between two people
and first you put the flutter in front of that when then and eleven
moon and some people hold of way down here say the people in some people way were here so i didn't say you put them apart at the edge crystal little bit of it sitting up so didn't make it accessible and and tippett so
oh that makes you you will make it accessible to the person you know and i'm personally the way over so yeah they melt
this is a case in point
every time somebody gives that instruction it doesn't apply to the to it's like you have to look at how high they are some people are first farther away and you just you have to see how far are they going to ban which person is a pitchman away call
why somebody on a batch just their interest observer or the person sitting out in person who's sitting we out of your gestures at the person that is that it's website we know it's not really it it can be a little misleading if you say x amount from the the
the mail war because it is you have to judge how far they're having a leading what kind of position they're sitting in so the customer's always right now and
there's no right or wrong
hey if a court she had to become it in a person in a in adjust to the president small print but that's so so when you get when you have a a rule it's not something to stick to
it's is the rule always has accommodating according to the situation presents are not rules their suggestions of have to suggestions on how a do something that if you only do it according to the role that's wrong
so i've taken you have to understand that naturally within the url you have to
accommodate to the situation
so yes that's true
but what's always true whatever we're doing
i hurry off the question
it's supper when they have to halt the can you drink
after you clean the second ball you have to send promotional yeah kids right out of the second or less know
the
he was the first bowl
and then
you poor
half the water into the second ball then you drink
half them off
then
a and then when the server combs you perhaps with the water into the bucket and drink after work
so let me think about that
you bought your part you know you put all of the water in the second bill and it was sister then it would say ricans you put happen into the second half
but the first body is pointing to the physical some other words you can't request more water
an eight or fourth and fifth smart literate
yeah you don't feel the burn was a time such of the the two balls you don't fill the for cellular yet power you to it enough to wash it
me just point of it is the server just pour enough water into the principal so you watch it it's not your drinking water it's the washing letter
yeah then you pour the water in your cycle and watched second bull and you offer have to the spirits and you drink the other hand because you also when who the khaki
yeah he also won tacky what is actually fucking is am
the
the
please let the way we do believe
well you don't drink the water out of singapore and me as a crystal
so you're talking about some supper for dinner
rio to both yeah right
clem in the you for the water is like a volume as your utensils
customizable the you can survey
and then when the chickens before i had the letter to packet to require
is it important to drink so in the wash water that if you'd rather not absolutely necessary
hi
the hell like yeah i'm mckenna chug
the production line
what's wrong you you like groceries and fa
sometimes i don't want it
a like rules like that
so what you say we have three oils you get two chances to take a drink now when you take half of the wife of the second call and get half the like football
yes
night changed when he said that he asia yeah yeah corrected yourself the second time he spoke about i'm taking water at dinner into two bowls three that
as a around seventy seven lot of things
okay okay as i see your point you're talking about the three balls you know how much on or less reactive gases i guess they don't have all the cooking any my yeah yeah and you only get to cancer
you only get two chances to eat something
husband
when using approvals
you specified history
when you study when you when you spend doing
when we have looked with am not
i'll explain it to him
when you have it all in front of you
then then you can ask the question is a server the ethics
well you never get to know
how to access to
she never to have your neighbors
the with this action that's actually a rule target set of introductory drink either your neighbors both
don't carry darwin this of the than a though
presented of the i or was it was a it's easy the fiscal and for tokens tokens was never a aim of which are very different and using obvious that's fine
hey
the profits so i have to chance a quick humor as a reference once i was serving sunlight
the put the serial put my pot down about project a vital the recipient took the laid of and proceeded certain sf and i thought this was a good opportunity to establish some icon
and person sort of looked at vi
hey accept it was very nice and i even forgot this the first time he didn't really do we know
have done that with a together
the diversity many years help us to practice known as i'm here today
he suggests that are more serious you have
the i think it's very sweet of as a server when i meet recipient and buddha meets buddha on the bow down but what some people do as the server is just getting there they're already bowing and we're just still parking ourselves it's really sweet to bow at the same
aim high and site cause that's very young flesh so you actually meet
so perfunctory valley is better not too bad at all into simply do a perfunctory about
but i'm the other hand it may be bedded fit too quickly grew rather than that bell off
he's a moment when i was at tassajara
there's a woman who has a trimmer
no trailer gets to be like this gets it serves the great woman she's really noble person is that she's coming up
and but the partner and so i reached over and took the
the utensil insert myself and then pull it back and that was very sweet you know because it was
human the going to be able to me
so you know just improvising in the moment is really nice thing to be able to of just losing your composure you improvise you do it you know what's necessary since the same thing when you serving cold or when you saving a midget
how can you accommodate you in the to the situation
he can do that
this amazing get started with as channel you're not already parkinsonian would be doing serving as a wonderful
sounds great that's what about the other people did they also serve themselves i i think so yes yes no to play out if i'm feeling okay
following such as lee
sometimes your gesture
yeah value do that
love
speaking of falling off
how many times do you are with that classic
asking on the city was okay well you bow and then you pick up the commercial
will be put down his belt no glaring errors or paris au pairs okay
what they did several ways to do that they you pick up thickness you bell you pick up figure last year and use it and then you can do to young person in the other person takes it and you bound together
the other person isn't it
in ended an efficient or with it them
what i had started doing when i had a partner was intended to department first just as just you know because this message to do the part your partner would use it and then hand back to me but when and about them to do it badly as the question when i will never well
pick it up about pick it up and hands in an person and they would take it and then we vote of each other
you don't have to do it that way but it's nice you know to offer it to the other person pray and they then they use it headed back to you if a cow yeah so when in doubt
you can actually get out of control
elgin company
we will get a little too far valley
when when the servers go into the person who has
i'm sitting in chair and the other cable
and you want to his time to take table away
you bought anything at the table but you don't know with the table you just take the table
because you don't want about the table we really do that he just batted the person then you take a table away but also means if the person's giving a table don't found it like they're holding the table so that they're sort of not that will you bowing to each other first
you're bound to each other for involving the same articulate to on that you can count on know about you take it has a person would be trying to add me while was trying to keep because they can't they can do whatever they want
what do you put the table them and zindabad of each other is the same things when you're carrying some india seat
hey you gotta get your cushion and you got your yo yo ki limbs and you're coming up to his feet and you don't bow with all thief you put them down first you put your iop down knit and you get your composure
and then you bad of efficient can sit down so you could have be away first before you do all this stuff they were about fifty two different things you're doing if you're coming up and it's it's very clumsy and awkward to ballot on your stuff and so the question right
expect anything of you
definitely put it down in price and then you've found on the cushion and the cushion smiles
a related to what you're just talking about where servers come to people for the chairs with a little tables with the wiping cloth we don't bow to first same way we can bow to surgeon or the director we white first of tables and then placed than that what we do with
have a front seat people here don't ask me why that is just flip to it
how about fouling join zazen know when i first came here i you never been instructed that after sauce and or when you're sitting down you bow just the people on either side or directly across the so i know this often subtle
come into the sandel and other people are sitting especially pies are facing out and of bow and then the whole globe
to say if you
can put good point
when you come to you see and you've added to the cooking in the people and either side no matter whether whether the phrase the inner out will bow with the when you bell and the in turn around and if the person is somebody's face in you that about to so yes that's true when i come in and i'd bet my cushion
and like during lectures and the united kingdom imbalance somebody else who's giving it going to give a talk then i about everybody biology if you don't have to ask if i'm just coming up to my you know just commute my seat for sometimes i'll come to know about and people down there something about to shows not necessary
raja always bow when i'm bowing image nice possess opens it feels funny isn't a medicine if you're just for my cushion that in the op cit fancy person how would you mind if they want to but there on either side visit a this is like the dividing
fill em and side in there and that sites so
even though it's ones in though has two sides
so
well i bought my cushion walter always ask me when you're sitting there in the afternoon
and that's nice
that the person who seen it doesn't necessarily have to bear when i give them
it's optional it's kind of options yeah and hits nice feeling you know but it's i would you know when we say an optional i don't like to think that these are rules are like to think that these are accustomed
you know
who customarily we do we do these things which kind of keeps our practice together in keeps us relating to each other in a nice way
the page street
then to upstairs because the case of the founders room you know your years as the founders hall and with the statue that doesn't look like anything like security
and when you walk by you bow
you know we're going to the way and then some people that they do i have to bow when i do that
if is it with the rule you know it's not a law or rule the custom is customarily we do these things because it's a good feeling you know so i don't like to say you have to do this so you have to do that
we should feel something is your feeling i found over this you know because it connects me with everybody of way to stop the limited things in the same way
in it according to our customs we feel connected you know if we'd think well i don't like to do the ascendant lincoln and we don't feel that connection so
these things remind us that of our connection but it also reminded that my connection with the dharma and
ah
who is yeah i don't like doing the issue i don't want to do that it's it's caliphate are eager
yeah but i like to feed my ego
even though we don't say that
how is this many of us but i just wanted to find out that have set
doing these customs because they remind us and enhance our connection is very different from less sometimes get korean with are your key asserting but she's doing it right now and then that from that the tedious side was doing it right means
being one with
yeah so there is a customary way to do think and we will do it that way
it makes us feel
then we say centered
so you know all these things really happen to be centered
that's not a matter of doing it right or wrong and negative is like and i am i being centered and my centered in emptiness and my center with
connected with whatever it is the name interacting with that's that's the whole point is have to be internet had to be one with what we've developed with that's what sand okay is about
how to be one and be connected when it's more than connection connection is between two things the least
the have be one with is not is beyond to think it's gonna to be one with so
what we're doing that we feel good when we're not doing if we don't feel so good
how
sometimes when i'm serving i i feel that i've fallen in form and and there's a feeling of
wow and a few
it has a nice feeling to it but i also realize i'm a little bit inside my head of what the form is
that's okay to when there are other times when i'm trying out what i'm trying to have beginner's mind and not
and respond to the situation i feel very often have very different and i and i have this momentary panic that
i'm not going to remember anything about the farm i will not know what to do next because it is just presence if
and so somewhere in between them knowing the form and but having so feel fresh and new and not not following a role that's right
that's it
every time we almost every time you do something you've never done before
it's all over again so what were bound nine times in eyes itch five
hi do count on but the county's is it's just to keep my place
that every bounce you've never done it before is something that entirely new
entirely fresh new it is the only one and way we chant the suture over and over again it's not over and over again every time we can it's a totally new thing if you don't have that attitude than that everything just looks mechanical and boring so that the
counterfeit at site is mechanical
so that's the danger of falling into being mechanical movement do something over and over you don't want do that and so somebody mean like really good but there's no substitute for hard enough and so i hadn't could you be every single time we do this it's the it's new and never done this people are and it
so nothing's ever repeated
this is the realm of no repetition even though it looks like things and repeat over and over him
so it's good attitude you know that still a habit energy you know if it's in our body and so people think about this very formal practice no i don't think of it is warmer than at all because they know it fell well it just seems like this an easy way to do things it's so easy fifth
you know to just be relaxed and do everything because if it's a valid
the novices
you know try very hard to do something and even novice teachers you know like the japanese teachers are always relaxed when they do stuff
a foreign teachers are often less relaxed and little more rigid because they haven't the other the learning how to do this that they haven't embodied enough so they can let it go
so
that's obviously somebody likes as if he or she the reason why people learned from just the way he walked back in the things because he'd mastered the formality and nothing was former porn
suggested everything easily
you know nothing special
that's all so once you the stages you know this stage of entering this stage of learning than the stage of his
so people in different stages
let too many are in the state of from
are some people in the to reason that having gone to the states
the
i've always been impressed with the suzuki roshi sir
ah description of the way of valley is a way for intimacy yes and one thing it really struck me over the years is someone said this all this fouling and he said of although we fail to people the dogs to cats to everything just that name i
feel like so the bowing is not only just relating to such persons or even animals but everything around so or at least that's my guess so you know every dharma meaning everything
is an expression of buddha
an expression of of to nature so you're always bound to to nature which called intimacy
it was into everything you know in a
the christianity is called closer than hands and feet
this is intimacy with good nature
so
use your phone he's not like you're ignoring the personally going to burn it
the person that itself is a buddha in egypt
so we treat everybody that's what it used to treat everyone as buddha not some special person but because we all have the same nature
so balanchine is last year
you recognize that you respecting the true nature of everything that you are meeting
that's standard practice and middle as well the beginning
yeah that's that's ever to that people come and then as a country people by to everything so much you know and it looks like excessive in simpler days to think well this is really excessive know but actually it's not so whether it's whether you actually bowing or
or your attitude and belling should be the same whether you putting your hands the other enough
remember the first time i went to cause the harris mattress practice period as a her and i came out and everything was a very different these are the covered for rushing behind and never look at people in the phasers to take paper bags
wrinkles and you can see elder sir
on the stuff that was going on that on the suffering anyway show at the grocery store
but something then baptism
the cashier and you know just like
that's creating to do with thing you know people become alarmed if you keep doing
being alas my bed
you go up you know thing
when we didn't mess subject in early one of the guys you should says grace all of us actually can at the end of grace he cannot as
that
i've never sell this for has disseminated in the society though actually a lot of times we'll see a performer or somebody giving a talk and
won't be a formal bow that it gets recognized
yeah no is a kind of
a nice greeting or farewell to thank you yes since and noticed that to even a congress person
unconsciously going like this republican
i'm my early as separated
that were you know who are are following after they do it type of being a touchdown i find them if this is their trademark yeah you know act after the has to happen
it's very sweet
we i think about after the other team
hey i see a natural logic
he actually of a stretch
necklace
it's
okay you have any question is should we go out
and asking one question
what is the practice of sushi
i have that yes i can answer that question the purpose of fashion is
the she
purpose of such enough to fit
you mean some other purpose
i woke up to
of god you know
i don't know what i was thinking before i woke up to this is found that
this is great it's an actual first alone is the safest place in which i can be right for complete an imperfect self with all of my craziness
i have an opportunity to see it without having to at it up
yeah
the that's good
so the temperature of she's to do that
for you
purpose of says you may be something like that for somebody else simply a little different felt
you know
purpose of with
system
we always want to think that we're doing something for from other of it for a result
if you start to think that you're doing says you were a result this not sushi
doesn't it just sitting down
yeah
yeah something else happens things happen you know benefits happened but that's not what we ship
we have that
you know i come here
so let myself rate
the
i say that there is a grasping mind
that says
i want to be enlightened
i never had that problem
i never i never wanted to be enlightened
what can they don't have that problem
so i can just sit
yeah
the to realize
that i could let go of that and just issue yeah
this is a pure existence
just pure existence
the reason why it's called pure is because it's not door
soon as we want something
we create something
so that don't want and i don't care what happens next okay what happened before they should just now
now now now now now
data
do you
you know we bring i'll never stop to fishing
could bring i separated we've been my anxiety were being i paid within if the rubbing our problems but then it's like
do you have a mighty glass of water
and the as when you when you hold it still on the most things down the bottom
and then simply hit water

so
no wonder contains man silt misery
happiness other things but you just like a lot of other things and just be
like him
when you shake
canadian and michigan can backup
it didn't take so different for it
but why does just the water
the water actually it's not dirty
you know figures to say we watch the windows we don't wash the windows because they're dirty we just left the winter because we washing the windows
we don't sweep the floor cleaner for because of theory we just when it's time you clean the floor because clinical
when it's time to bow we just found manage family can be just here
if you want other reason through these things you should ask somebody else
because we always want some reason for something which is understandable but that's on this site
the other side is just silly
just to
not like your mom just exists this moment
but it's so hard because we think that was custom want something
the program to think we're supposed to that something
in the time just how to be
pure existence
that is wonderful
why am i doing this i am i doing this because they're usually when people i'm agree because we're bored or a painful or i know i paid thirty five dollars a day and something will be fantasy
to create pain for myself
although i get to eat three meals
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well that that's what i used to enjoy the most when we say when i first started seeing we stepped to teach us whether the morning when next move
why africa that
and the first one i was just like a date you know this little thing and it was so wonderful to because there was nothing and then suddenly is this one there's a thing that happened key now i make these kind of luscious
tickets but it be just this one and so we can appreciate this tiny little wonderful thing you know
and was very different actually but no and get escalate things escalate the food gets my rich and teach hits big a mark brownish than that like so we had to be careful you know also
and you know i like stuff like that influence everybody else but i know that feeling so much better when it's is you know you've been working real hard at sitting still and then there's this beautiful little reward
life in a little refreshment that not much is that it feels really wonderful

and especially yeah
you sit on one side there's you just do it for it
he want a recent at it
as the yeah science that's why your fifth so
i'm not trying to catch you in a logical inconsistency or yeah i'm i'm just try and understand yeah
that sounds like reality yeah what's okay
so lng is yeah we don't deny duality
oh eliminate
where we have our existence okay yeah i just had seen him as i was misinformed correct yeah yeah that it's really hard to wrap our mind around windows and duality this is what the sand okay talking about why
if actuality
the duality is the duality of oneness and well this is the wonders of duality
he's learned like there to do we talk about two things he learned should express turn to understand them intellectually
so we make a mistake on purpose
okay yeah yeah so whenever we talk about duality i when as you know we talked about dualities if that's bad or wrong it's not bad around it's just duality
the and wellness or
the essence essential
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it's like this is one
this is millie right
this duality because there's comparative this is my little finger than and but this is but it's still the the fingers i belong to the went up for just so we can talk about fingers or we can talk about fist that we talk about fist were also talking about fingers because for
yours are included in fifth and fifty security of triggers
so
if we're only talking about duality than we miss something we missed the essential
yeah so it will in one is to move into is one that is neither one nor two
that's just science
so it's it's interesting and to my own talking about that war