Kshanti Or Patience And Our Practice

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good morning are good morning
take her today is a chi oh g laurie snarky ocean of heart being time and laurie is a resident here she began to practice in nineteen eighty
nine access city centre and then tassajara at that's saw nineteen eighty and that can hear in nineteen eighty nine
lori is his mother of grown child philly and nearly fledged
and the life of our allies abbott goes on hours and aki
lori clothes shoes so in two thousand two and received for three morocco soon of the way recognition from soldier and two thousand and five
ocean park is a very good name for long
a actually a is one up in the saga who represents the female line of teaching and we welcome the chance to hear words this morning
thank you as the volume good
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yeah what i wanted to talk about today is the buddhist practice koepka shakti usually like often translated as patient's also positive translated as tolerance or
suzuki rushing is is constancy and my beginner's mind so something about time how you are in time
i could it's also about your capacity for experience something being able to include expire experience in a wide way
so i read this i read some things don't do a little backup background backup thing
i read something in is a relatively recent category roshi book well i think it's the each moment is the universe something like that
and it's really stayed with me as kind of for little bit stark and maybe even a little bit too dualistic by have stayed with me and i wanted to bring it up he says that a usual way of life is to live
with past karma as cause and delusions as conditioning factors are to conditioning elements
i guess another way to say that might beat who to live with our unconscious beliefs motivated by our unconscious beliefs and then affected in manifesting those beliefs by our perceptions which are colored by those beliefs so
if we believe for for example this
a situation is not safe of particular situation is not safe then we would go into that situation with that belief and our perceptions would be colored by that belief in other words we would clue into the unsafe aspects of the situation perhaps rather than seeing that situation as it really is which may be it
cloves the unsafe aspects or or maybe not
and then that's the usual way to live that we live and then he says the way of our practice and i would add or i wouldn't propose
many people's practice many people on the planet's effort or practice whether they're buddhists or not is to live with our bodhisattva vows cause and the perfections the six practices of the bodhisattva as conditioning factors
i'm now the bodhisattva vow as everybody probably knows his there's a lot of different ways to phrase it it's are sometimes it's often phrased around our wished to help others become enlightened before ourselves or or something like that i think some people are
skeptical of and especially women sometimes are skeptical of the idea of putting others first as a kind of you know reflexively putting others first but i don't think we have to go there i think we can just think about it as
our wish to find our place in the grand scheme of things or something or wish to
our wish that the the that everybody
finds their true self everybody's expresses their true self including ourselves
and so sort of like the first one is kind of win lose trying to go from the wind lose way of living to the win-win way of living and then somehow it turns out that win-win is just when everybody's interested in when when that's when when
and it is so it's like take our money out of the bank of separateness and take our sell our stocks and separateness and put our money and are
yeah put all our savings into the bank of
connectedness for better or worse you know just take your chance place your bet on that
and so then the six perfections of six practices
i was thinking the six practices are kind of like six clowns with suitcases
let you know it opened the when it opened they open up their suitcase in there ten more clowns in their suitcases you know so it's like we say the six practices by really everything all of buddhism is like underneath indian all those suitcases that
history so it's everything's in that each one of the six perfections has like ten or twenty aspects you know so the third of this six practices is khashoggi as soon as i mentioned usually transport translated as patience
ah
there's a
there so there's a general kind of khashoggi but there's also very specific khashoggi's that are mentioned in the sutures and often in mahayana sutras like one place it's often mentioned that the very beginning of a my of sutra they they will describe the scene in the present the scene on all the
people who are listening to the buddhist words in this sutra and you know it's sort of increases over the years so the early the early and they're sort of takeoff on the original poly sutures so that the early ones there my feet
two hundred fifty or something monks and then there's like twelve hundred and fifty and then there's like eighty four thousand and finally if you get you know when you get to the later mahayana sutras thousands and thousands of bodies office so and there and then this talk about all their attributes all the things that they've accomplished and that you know the powers and
you know things stages they've mastered and everything and there's often
they've attained the khashoggi of such and such the patients of such and such so in the diamond sutra they've they caught there's one called a new petticoat dharma khashoggi which is the patient acceptance the patient acquiescence in dharmas which are nothing in themselves in which they
to be produced
and in media
good fatigue and dharma to christianity the patient acquiescence in dharmas which are nothing in themselves in which failed to be produced
and in the
the molecule to sutra that if they describe the and i don't i don't know how to pronounce his honor paula my anew pahlavi dharma ashanti you have any better
the intuitive tolerance of the ultimate incomprehensibility of all things

now you i don't know i can't tell from that laugh whether you're tempted to think i don't really have that big of a problems with tags or maybe you do i don't know which you mean you might think that's not my main issue
i need to learn patience with crutches a run for it's the first one is the patient acquiescence of dharmas which are which are nothing in themselves in which fail to be produced
you might say
that things are not as they appear that would be are good things
you can't get thing that things to happen you know that you can't
what's the phrase
how we always been how often we miss the mark or something you know could be something like that the patient acceptance of the fact that we often miss the mark perhaps
or there's you know that a lot more in there
i noticed that i thought i was getting ready to come down i i tried to make these graphs hey guys on buddha's birthday with them for at which is where you to make a little stocking with soil and grass seeds and then was to grow the hair and but mine didn't grow so that's like the dharmas and fail to be produced
asif didn't growth i just i had to be had to practicing to shanti with with that
in part did the second
the incomprehensibility well that's a little bit easier to
sort of like the first one only easier to swallow maybe you know oh yeah incomprehensibility
that's sometimes i'm up against that the incomprehensibility
choking trumpet use the analogy of of of art that were like clay on a potter's wheel and khashoggi is how we find the center so that when we get out so that you know when your if you i don't know many of you probably haven't but when you're doing ceramics and you're throwing on a wheel the the claim
these to be right in the center otherwise if it will fly off come in or go off to one side so ashanti is how we find that center
mm i was looking on norman fischer everyday said website and he didn't exactly say this but i jumped off from something he said it's kind of like your internal gps unit yeah recalculating you know how you you know your you turn and then your gps it wasn't what you plan to do with go recalculating and then there's like this moment
a so it's like we're all what that's what patients is a thick oh recalculating this happened now recalculating to include this new information

some and i was thinking let's see
i've been thinking about the fight or flight response and alison how it caught my attention that oh like fight and flight or the same thing for our bodies like physiologically we have these hormones coursing through our system that are either fight or flight so
so does that mean that somehow physiologically fear and anger or
kind of like the same
we often think when we talk talk of our where patients or patients does how i think some maybe unfortunate connotations in trying to map it on to this buddhist word shanti it would be great if we could learn to use the sanskrit words and then they would accumulate different meanings you know howard's kind of accumulate different meanings
be cool to do that i thought about trying to do that for this talk and i don't prefer half or when not have the patience will see
so fight or flight so you could sort of safe fight is like anger like fighting something that something that you're reacting to with fighting or fleeing going running away but for our body for like physiologic late
there's something the same about this too so i would like to propose that khashoggi is for that for those two in our minds to things has something to do with how you
how you
well i think it's probably two stages so you first just
steadfastly include your fight or flight response and continued to observe the situation perhaps to try to figure out whether
there is a real threat or not and then at over time perhaps as you keep doing that you may be don't have such a strong fight or flight response so our fight or flight is you know court if there's a snake poisonous snake there or maybe the were being chased by a while
animal that would be a good thing to either fight or flee you know but so often in our lives we have that response to other kinds of situations where
it's not a good idea to fight or to flee
ah i you know when i first
where was giving talks on my first couple talks i haven't really big physiological response to giving a talk before i of the talk really big was like
you know energy kind of flowing through it's probably wept some people would go you know to a roller coasters something to experience but i was never someone who did that not times but but i wanted to i wanted to do my best you know
so i kept doing when i was asked to give a talk i will keep giving a talk and gradually
that bad happens it's not that dangerous

and so
it can change so solely practicing ashanti can change it's not just when we have a fight or flight but it changes our perceptions
of the world
and of wet
maybe what is a threat or something
i've been going to sometimes to peer over tens conversation presence in conversation classes and i think i've been feeling at least in the process of making up his talk that that a big part of what we're practicing there is related this
khashoggi is some kind of
you know

a wholehearted steadfast staying present with the other person in a conversation particularly if the other person is saying or doing something that you been out it's causing your fighter flight and her response
so it's like you know and what what i always admired when we when we when peter tries to model or models succeeds in modeling
what we're doing it's kind of this is basically curiosity it's like of
you think everyone who is for gun control should be shot tell me more about that got them tell me more about that tell me more
so
so you're
part of view your situation or part of you does not actually want to know more but partitions does
it's like to take your money out of the part that doesn't want to know more and put your money in the part that doesn't want to know more at that moment
it's really it's kind of it can be amazing to watch
there's a certain seeing the
what is it it's like
and want to say seeing the humorous side but it's not quite that it's something but somewhere almost there are you know hard to put words on
maybe you see the humor side of your own response i'm not taking your own response so seriously if all you're not denying it either because because croissant his practice with our own self and with others we practice with our own
ah responses and we also practice with others who we think are causing those responses but maybe they're not
maybe we're really reacting to is the fact that dharmas are failing to be produced
i've noticed that like democracy this is i'm making this up now but
have you ever noticed this are making out and some are again
democracy has this kind of two parts you know it's like the first part is that you want to be in a situation where you can speak freely and your voice can be heard and you don't want to feel pressed you don't want to be in a situation where your your life is threatened if you speak your mind that's kind of the first stage and that's a good thing
that's very natural we all feel that way hopefully that's a very next for human feeling i think to feel like we want the freedom to say what we think and to have our version or view be a part of the conversation but then i think stage two was when you actually want the other
person's view who you disagree with to be part of it you have we have to get to that stage we can't have democracy if we're all just wanting to make sure that our voices heard
and so i think this is also ashanti
that we we can
want to be in a situation where other people who see things differently than s can put forth their ideas and put theirs in and and we believe that something better will come out of us all putting our ideas out and we we really have we believe that
we can get to where we believe that
and it can be challenging

so many of you know my sister's visit me this weekend of this is the first time that sort of plants have aligned to where she could come here and here at me give a talk you know and so when i've been preparing this talk i've been course
i've had my inner sister critiquing and
which what will she think of this what will you think of that and i've been thinking about
i think one of her my version of one of her questions over the years that my the years of my zen practice is
well being uncomfortable with the idea of of them are papering over papering over what's really going on with whichever perfection were practically you know it with generosity or you know papering over our stinginess with generosity papering over our selfishness with unselfish just papering over our
our anger with patients are our fear with patients
and
some abs the first part of it is whether we're papering over and i think it's really important for khashoggi that we that would that that's not what we're doing
and and that were
but then the second part which is maybe what we're going to which brings up a deeper question i think is
to do any kind of practice where you are choosing to cultivate something and choosing not to and she's so it's sort of like you're choosing that you're always choosing the weeds and the flowers you're choosing which things to water which things to nourish which seems to put fertilizer
iran and this is definitely or practice in techno hundred bucks but itself have water the seeds of compassion you know where choosing to water
some things and we're choosing not to try to to let it wither really let wither some other things and whenever we do that there's that element of choice and there's that element of the limited view that your you it's yours the situation you're in your limited view
from that limited view your choosing to water some things and let other things wither
and it's sort of like i think in some ways it's kind of like the argument against agriculture right i mean there's a there's an argument that the humans shouldn't be doing agriculture we shouldn't be choosing which plants that were sort of taking on god's role or something to choose which plants live in which can't stop or which animals live in which animals die
so it's a good thing to think about it's a really good thing to think about i think the idea is and this is to me where we have buddha dharma and sangha and where we have the ancestors because we're actually not
our ancestors that's like they figured out a way that we can have this ongoing conversation about wet to water and what not to water and what is ultimately beneficial for the greatest good and what isn't and so we're not really choosing for ourselves wear shoes were were sort of
jumping on this bandwagon word
we're being that you know the whole of the buddha were trying to do the hoeing and choosing that the buddha chooses and we're trying to always questioned whether we're doing that and who how do we know what we're doing that and all over this up through the centuries our ancestors have tried to share
and preserve their ideas about what how did make that choice and what is that choice and how to make that choice
home

and so
another question that comes up is
will so with our zazen practice one way to think about it is that we're sort of practicing on the cushion for the more difficult
manifestations of situations that would require patients we we sort of eliminate some of the variables so easy and we we doors and practice on the question we develop and cultivate our steadfast whole hearted inclusion of what's happening
and so then we can go out into the world and the war difficult challenging
the other people and things
we certain build our muscle up for that but another way to look at it is that's actually what if the thing you're really reacting to is not what you think it is what if your miss perceiving the thing that's that you're reacting to and what if it really is a new petticoat you know what if it really is the unproduced
dharma what if it really is the in conceive ability of all dharmas
you you know you think it's these other things this person or being put on hold or of driving or you know someone hurting your feelings or whatever it is but what if it really is that things are not as they appear that really fundamentally that's what's freaking you out
yeah no could be could do that
and so if that's true it would behoove us to learn how to deal with that actually
and once we can deal with that than these other situations are sort of not as hard as they look because it really fundamentally what's bugging us is that we can't conceive you know
if things aren't fitting our idea things don't fit our conception or things don't do act the way we want we expect them to not just what we want them to do i mean we can get over that but even how we expect centuries
it's pretty constant you know i was thinking it might be fun to this morning for us to put out our versions of what we need khashoggi for you know like i was thinking
oh faces you know face faces on to faces dharmic ashanti because to me
the time of faces sometimes because it fails is like a window to a whole universe noemi each person is a whole universe and then their faces like the window
and that's part it's intense
so
i'd like you to here also
the last couple more things to say and i'd like to hear you saying what you think maybe at the bottom you know not the sort of obvious strength of much indonesia but really scares you and makes you angry
but what makes you want to flee
or fight
we can serve a staff
ah so the last thing i wanted to say is miss something else that's been on my minds may be seen it might seem a little unrelated but i was thinking
a person in my in my little steady growth we were talking about we had a conversation about enlightenment and first we to talk about our fantasies about what enlightenment is like you know it's sort of taboo to talk about enlightened as we tried to break the temple and say what we thought enlightenment was you know just brainstorm throw throw things out there and then we also
we talked about has anything actually changed for us you know in our practice in the years of our practice as he as we do with is there anything though we think
has been changed by that even though we can't know what caused anything you know if it's inconceivable but and one person said something i really like everyone everybody said was great that one person's thing real estate with me she said well
i wasn't anxious i was asked about the things i didn't need to be anxious about and i wasn't anxious about the things i didn't need to be anxious disability and so she shift in which i think is sort of gets back to this thing categories out of like you shifts dear concern from the bogus
fatty things that the stakes in the it on the snakes and tigers than you think are out there and you start to get onto the ones that are really you need to be concerned about for your own and everyone else's benefit
and i thought somehow like jump from there to it's kind of like the buddha laid down a new beat you know like if if there's this big music going on and then the buddha like put down his new beat and which is maybe like a newbie but also like the most fundamental be at say
same time and we're just trying to claim you know play our music to that new beat somehow and mean the meantime all the other beats are are happening and so you know how you get pulled into these other beats are these other you know like if you trying to sing harmony you get pulled into the
note of the person that's right next to you but your were trying to sing this new song or play along to this new beef and so what do we need to do to be able to do that is what we need to miss some we need to immerse ourselves as much as we can listen to the new beat whenever we can and whatever
our way we can keep listening because that you know how it is the more you hear it the more you naturally are gonna play along to it your body is just your body mind spirit are going to go that way and you need to try it right you need to try you need to play the music and try to see
if you can play along with that and just see what happens
to try it
so did you have anything to add or subtract ruling suppression
this will hurt his first in federal prison visiting london
i'll even is not we it'll be a syllable word from will have pictures with him who historically women of servants of men
for a couple of thousand within a couple three thousand years later him and so you using that
visit the to the world movement through with as when you've served said
the the
thirty
this came back from
what for license if you in a
heritage that we have to be conservative
women are women they do i think other women agree servants are limited recently so we should be equally servant each other rose and when the windsor mill
the survey man yes amen amen amen
of whom it
will do have a question
well you have created the propitious circumstances from your question
oh just as having an images you said that that you know let's say you have the beaver dam and one part of in his guns week and the waters leaking through that so you just naturally have to build up the strength of that and and not so it doesn't necessarily work if if our whole cultures condition for one
gender to serve in one to be served to say oh well they should all serve and they should be equal you might have to build up the strength in the men to learn how to serve and you might have to build up the strengthen the women to learn how to think in different ways for to do have for from and it's a good is overseas yeah
and yeah we we don't want to paper over our intuition that it wouldn't be appropriate for me to put this person first in this particular moment we don't a paper that over with our body so oh but i have to because i took the by seven thousand like looking what is about this situation because maybe the being that you need to put first is that intuition
and or you know your left foot or something you know what is the thing that i need to put first right now
can and then sue and then new person's name i don't know direction of seeing the shiver the third circuit were point which is a good be accurate or there's kind of a compliment to burgers conveying to
you're like this are skillful use of sure
you're going to talk or something like that too if you're going one of these touchy situations like you mentioned earlier in the you have people have different views and so on one of the race to break those down is to find a way it's not easy
where everybody can have a big laugh from there every leases or abridging ice visit and say okay we have a position have a different period your but
yeah it's okay because we're all kinda funny
you or i am at least whoever yeah have usually
a quarter of to share your son esos than the other person says oh well
yeah i write which i'm so happy said because i forgot where we might need something that i hadn't meant to say which is that when we have this so steadfast whole hearted inclusiveness in the moment that is going to enable that one of the good things about that is that creativity and
staff more than more likely than when we're fighting or running you know like fighting or running like okay i decided i i'm doing this i'm fighting right it's not like new creative responses are going to come in at that moment but if you give you have that
recalculating a know or just hold
another thing i forgot to say was that there's that i was thinking about that roy orbison song love her alleged like love is like a cloud holds a lot of rain i think so that's like ashanti khashoggi's like a clown holds a lot of rain and so how can we do that you know and when we can hold that reign of what's half
opening right now
then the creativity and imagination and you know
kindness natural sort of naturals flowing things that flow naturally from us that you know don't have to be called put us up about because they're just so natural just flowing naturally come out in the in that space created
soup and then forgotten use it
stacey
think you are it's really just as my basic searches with de of the it was associations for patients might not be so powerful that as the way i have tended to pick up the of your patients has a lot to do with raging and being
able to rate and and they also think that resists fight or flight response this a third response that i offered to get into out of here lumia free is these that's true that drove the skies over yeah very true
where i that i think there's also a positive side of patience and of the waiting part and i'm like if you wanted to say from your that's why don't you say what you survey i moved on it is luxurious as i can see that as hurt as are permitted patient's ability to
marine i flashed i've no idea of business you know apropos but there's a thing in the teaching of the bardo the with that been teaching of what happens after you die you voted to zone and bardo but also they also talk about it as between every moment there's a bardo you know well one part of
that teaching is that moments are not the same every moment is not equal some moments have more potential than others for a shift and so i would think that part of what you're waiting for is the moment the right moment
and not that you're ignoring all the other moments you're having to watch really carefully watch every moment really carefully so that you can feel that one that actually is gonna shift
the also that rating is it
a non activities such as a negative space for your twiddling your thumbs and wasting time while you're waiting but that is sometimes a candidate for some on gay rights about it there's this
it's a state of readiness and which are relatively opaque and and presence
and possibly at that moment what you might be tuning into his maybe that's where the incomprehensibility you know the infancy of ability is your oh you're available to that guess it can somewhere i was trying to get away from it seems like
matter what it is created
yeah ready to
stacey
i to go back to the issue of the boy software
service teach the you think about what the boys off about his it's it's basically you know jennifer how bout you awakened with it's like what the service comes he what does this person need to wake up and sometimes what they need to wake up is precisely the kind of short conch
chestnuts raising the terms of gender
so you know it's it's it's kind of like where where the service happens does it happened to be survival situations where does it happen in a kind of
and doesn't happen in such a way that the other person doesn't need to know anything about you yeah and doesn't need to know that you're making any sector you know that know it doesn't happen so that they're more on caught the person you're serving is more unconscious than they would be if you weren't serving them you know the name india that wouldn't be good yeah like
a and are why flesh on this but i'm romney's secretary you know like for a moment he woke up on my god
she
he didn't think i don't know how we thought about how she gets paid so much less than him i don't know that that was of issue but he did have a moment of like oh my car my secretary right in this room with me that i'm intimate with pays is totally different tax and napped shocked him you like that was a moment there was those yeah right now to spell was scouted the
lake yeah exactly
they would it
a am so proud of myself i just think how often does has happened i mentioned a republican in a favorable light
was it is so
the fair for a family with
an early and i remember that it was governments and then i forgot again
hey democrats millionaires a fatal you mentioned very favourably you're either million that billionaires whatever it is warren buffett is our pet good million area
i don't get money i don't get many points reserves have andrea andrea for credit for it
so i it seems to me another dimension about the body sought the thousand way in which we as women tend to internalize what our role is supposed to be even the phraseology of who do you put first i think that that's that's one day
mention that the other dimension is there is no one who goes first we all go together and so when we see that he can't actually be helping anyone without helping ourselves and we include ourselves and that he added vice versa we can't do anything for ourselves without you it's actually the fastest way to get your needs met sally yes yes but
you can get everyone's mad create a situation where everyone's needs are gaze that for for me it unlocks a little bit this idea where we as women sometimes feel like wait wait a minute like in a what does this mean that i'm supposed to be helping everyone before i helped myself because there is no one who goes first the
oh good again
i think it's someone else's to up with it
we also the mail originally wasn't that because the that was originally save time and we changed it around this issue i think it is so much
western notice
pier
right now i'm found that patients with
not knowing where to give everything you see this say
cascade haha so i was personally you on
the patient serve you know that especially useful points
edward day be the sufficiency of like mosquito biting painful so his patients
of the iphone the mosquito
going back way back to something you were talking about language using the were chatting is post patients i can't lose putting a word for changing the english language
is your practice
as we know i was just can say as we know it's changing all the time anyway
for change the way out
and these words seven example of that of a homeowner dishes
so keep using patients but allowed to a crow new meaning it
catherine
extra follow this is really good fantastic i would think about the moment between the fireflies and of patience and the idea that the patients will help us to really narrow have to fight or flight lines to just those that help us to i live
and for me the fight or flight anger and fear is the crossover moment to where
the part of the they can think of applause and have patients has left the room now and so how do we how do we moved that line between the time that we can be patients and wait for the right level of a lovely perfect ideas and the part where it is it's over
with every president
so part of that maybe maybe that's part of what i meant by when we off the market like don't don't have a don't react to the fact that you miss the moment and have that be a i mean of course you might but then if you if you do then have that the okay you know so so wherever you whenever
if it's all good it's all going to be good whenever you notice what's happening there's a moment when
you're just holding it so so you flew you know wouldn't cut down the block like when i was little girl i ran away from home you know for a minute
i got halfway down the block and i was like whoa this is not by this is none are getting me anywhere i want to be this is not going to be good you know so like wherever you you know how to however even fled or even if you've punched the person in the nose the next moment you like oh i remember i told myself i wasn't going to punch me more people in the nose is
or that allows you to the i go back and apologize or you know something you know so like wherever you catch yourself is good it's all good so no fly so they can
realized patients in africa
the
now
should remember that use about fifty people
what people feel safer
i was young i was expecting an aphorism that
i saw from you have your expression of patience is the incinerator for last the i wonder if you could say something yeah submissions in the incinerator of the defilements
that's something that our friends santa clara who
yes with it and lived as a time forest monk for several years from chicago but them for he studied with this teacher buddha data be cool and you know he he was learning to translate his teachings and so it's a poly expression i assumed that his
version because they don't think they had incinerators then was incinerator but it's really great it's like am
getting back to the first thing i was talking about with category or she's quote when we're driven by our past karma and conditioned by defilements basically conditioned by the confusion that ensues when we're driven by our past karma so what they're saying is this
this moment of patients burns that up burn something up that's clouding our vision you know
pretty cool was an f one or two from did you have of everything montezuma
i remember so and neff
since we were in the world to be somewhat predictable and always we get cruising especially defense you know this issue it should know adolescent
is that i wanted to go to and world is not predictable a little
he's a place to go to as the world is not forget a little to cheer the condition for for this specific yeah i was thinking about you to like with my sister thinking about what she was going to think about it was all i spent a lot of time think what what's a and housing that going to respond to the ten i i think that i'm willing to say and put my money down on
you know a lot of people a lot there's this tibetan idea that the worst situation you've gotta get into a really difficult situation to test and that's the only way you can develop patience is to be your enemies help you develop patience and all that's really good but i think i just think that there's places no one should have to go there there situations that way
we're are not going to help you develop patience and that are to agree just too hard that you've just your mind just explodes you know and so we should all work together to make sure that that is never a situation for anybody because if we can't we need to create situations where we can develop patients and i would say to those people are in my
mind i never say this to them but in my mind i will say that people will say you need an enemy to to practice patience okay you've never have kids
how people who've never had kids because your kids are not like your enemy for cancer nothing even approaching like your enemy you know
they're not even though you know all there's just nothing like that and still it takes huge patients i think because there are new petipa or something in there
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