January 3rd, 2004, Serial No. 01378

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today's the truest sense the dakotas words good morning can you hear me back there
it's really great to be back here with you
to be to just be sitting in this sendo and practicing with you be at home with my family and
oh be back in the usa
a special on this kind of bright saturday morning and new year
while i was sitting up here i was so
i'm going to talk about my time in japan and while i was to coming in i was very aware of this new robe that i actually had to get there and of some of the it occurred to me who is it that said beware all undertakings
that involve new clothes
the what thoreau yeah right whether there is there's real truth to that
ah
i thought i would start by reading you a poem
and then talk a little about
where was what i was doing what was
difficult to it what was wonderful about it and what some of the software where would that have been coming to me and mrs just
i'm gonna be processing this for a long time but i was looking through my notes i took lots of notes ah and during session we we had some quite good
tezos lectures
on some of dogan poems and there was this wonderful poem
which i think it's quite well known but it was new to me
bye by dogan
the dharma like an oyster
washed a top a high cliff
even waves crashing against the rugged coast like words may reach but cannot wash it away
the dharma like an oyster
wash the top a high cliff
even waves crashing against the rugged coast like words may reach it but cannot wash it away
hum and i think that this is as we practice this is actually ah
the experience of our lives ah
and
it it sort of sets a context for some of what i experienced there so i was gone a long time i was i left on november second and came back on december fourteenth
and
sir variant of what dogan said on dogan said on his return from china that he returned empty-handed ah well i didn't actually return him to handed so much luggage you know and so many things that people gave us ah so i didn't return empty handed
i did return with my eyes horizontal and my nose was still big you know ah but
i'm back where i was
was at the invocation of soto shoe the soto's in headquarters
which has offices here but is mostly in japan and doing something that used to be called a took a bit sewer special session so training for teachers and now they've changed it to something that's called dando kiyoshi can chew show
which means translates
i think something like training or practice session for a teachers who are transmitting the dharma
and it's a it's kind of the soto shoes requirement for their requirement for their certification for western teachers who ah who want to register their own students with
soto shoe and ah
you know in a way it's kind of ah you sort of why sort of wonder well why am i doing this ah and in another way i feel like ah
through our teachers and our teachers teachers and through the tradition ah i want to maintain a connection to japan ah and if they're inviting me to do this it makes sense to do it netzwerk you know it's pretty much what surgeon said and even laurie thought it was a
good idea to to go i think ah
and it makes sense also that like any professional organization if you can call them professional and it is there any organization has its own sets of qualifications and rules and hoops to jump through so this was hoops to jump through
ah but really ah
it was i saw it as a way of of
ah honoring ah sojourn honoring suzuki roshi and our teachers the japanese teachers who gave us so much when they came here gave their lives to
ah you know for the love of practice and to dogan an angel and and case on and in the ancestors to actually pay respects to to them
quite physically and i'll talk a little about that ah and
really to have an opportunity just a practice for six weeks which that's very unusual from from most of us and for me
know to be taken out of the context of the busy-ness of one's life to go someplace else where all you really need to do is practice
which is not as easy as it sounds but ah you know it was just a really special opportunity
so i was about five weeks in
at a quite traditional are trading monastery zooey oh gee in on the other on the on the southern island of shikoku ah and zoo yoji has a it was nice because then we got there it's beautiful temple ah and
realize there's there's sort of a connection with our own dharma family ah and that was part of what we learned about us
come lineage going back a hundred or one hundred and twenty years and seeing how ah
new teachers that the teacher teacher that suzuki roshi studied with was a dharma brother of the teacher that ah
category roshi studied with was a dorm a brother of the teacher that ah
gucci amorosi and show haku okamura studied with was dharma brother of the teacher that ah ah akin most studied with know these different streams kind of flowing from the same sources ah and also it's the eog what was really felt very calm
vertebral was they were they were are kind of robes like the robe that that eric is wearing and that mill was wearing earlier today this neil hallway where it goes over your shoulder and the kind of rock sous they all in all the monks had the same kinds of raucous uses as we have and that's a particular so in tradition
and it's kind of or out of the mainstream of soto zen and that's partly why i had to get a new robe which because actually aging and so gg you weren't supposed to wear that kind you know you know and you weren't supposed to we had to wear rock sioux that had a ring you know it's as excuse me nonsense
yeah but that's if you're gonna be respectful to the forms that's what that's what you have to do whether you think it's nonsense or not so we were so yoji for about five weeks and ah
we had a pretty rigorous daily schedule we got up at that three thirty three forty ah and we were in the zendo by four o'clock and in the day just kind of on wound there were no brakes of longer than about forty minutes in the course of a whole day until nine o'clock
ah and that was really difficult at first but then he sort of fall into the rhythm it's not so different i think than being at tassajara in many ways ah
and it except that there wasn't an awful lot of zazen
ah we had zazen in the morning for bed an hour
ah and then have long service service was about an hour ah it was freezing cold ah and then you went into the sodo the the zendo and you did another short service you did service in in what we will call the the buddha hall the hotdog
separate hall and then we go back and did a short service in the sodo were basically that service was a acknowledging the ah
the ancestors the lineage ah and then we had breakfast and the day went on every evening we had a wonderful bath ah so it's as in the morning and then often does in in the evening
before bed but quite often that god that god kind of
set aside for some ceremony or some training or something else so there wasn't an awful lot as as and but the way they in this in this tradition
add some eog they consider everything's as it
ah which theoretically is nice i have some question about it and we we can talk about that but ah
was a pretty full schedule of zazen we did a lot of ceremonies we did work around our our own hall that we had for group of there were six westerners three americans and and three europeans and then i'm sort of in among the twenty five or thirty g
japanese monks who are mostly young and we were mostly old ah mostly middle aged from early fifties to early sixties ah
and we did ceremonies we were we had our training in forms of different kinds ah how to wear clothes had a walk into a room where to stand how to be doshi ah yeah this was pretty interesting and everything just
pretty similar to what we do here battle enough different to throw you off every time ah
and i took a lot of notes
and i was also
quite a clear that ah how's rehab i'm happy with the training that we have here and the training that we have been since enter you know and it's like i don't have any sense like yeah they're really doing it the right way they are we have to bring it back here and you know do it that way it that's it's not true
so it's just another way ah and it's good to be able to learn
ah and the other main activity of our day was lectures we had from two to three hour and a half lectures every day ah in japanese
translated sleep you know and most of them were really boring
and that was another practice there was a practicing practicing the perimeter of patients
warren
well how did i know they were boring
life they were translated
i said they were translated yeah that's how i knew they were boring
i mean i'll let me give you example one they they had this this guy was the tonto at the ag
that's when the age branch temple in tokyo
pay bright guy he was asked to come and give a a a lecture series electorate to give a bed six or eight on this vasco of duggan's called
shoot k crocodile
so i think it's the merit of home leaving ah and
oh he wouldn't give us the text we had asked and and our main translator this american guy die gocco ah had asked him for the text and he he told dagger who well
no i can't give you the text because if you know if i gave you the text what would be the point and me giving you the lecture
so you know it's like okay so we had to sit tim essentially reading and talking a little about the text
boring but every now and then something would happen that would be just kind of a a flash you know that would be quite good
so that was what our days were like now is about there was four weeks of that and then i did row hard to say sheen we all did real hard to sixteen into yoji seventy six sheen ah and
and then went to ag and so gg for a ceremony called hightail ah which is basically a kind of recognition in acknowledge the ceremony you go and you bow to you go up the steep stairs and they lift a screen
and there are relics of dogan and cohen a and case on and it's kind of a once-in-a-lifetime experience you go up the stairs and is kind of ritual way and you bow to these relics ah and then the screen lowers
and you live and you never see it again
and you're not sure what you saw anyway because it's dark
on
but it's very powerful and kind of dreamlike and then you you once you've done that than you actually
ah
officiate at a service so you are symbolically the chief priest of those temples for the for the day which is a way of kind of publicly recognizing you ah and your transmission as valid
i sort of announcing it he did they actually literally do announce it ah so you know that was quite affirming mysterious in affirming ah and
now we were intensely trained for about six hours at the night before you know and then we got up at three in the morning to do these ceremonies and you know by seven it was over and by like eight thirty we were on a train till the next plane to the next place
so we did those ceremonies and ah
yet whether there were thirty one of yours no no no no with six yeah and during the ceremonies there were
really there was only for this particular ceremonies me and one other person men and pat o'hara from the village zendo are in new york was good friend of mine ah yet so is small know the younger monks they've got that's whole that's a whole other thing
so it was wonderful and it was also very difficult the difficulties i just started i'd outline some of what both work ah
ha i kept thinking there's this there's as waylon jennings song ah that some of you may know i don't think ah i don't think hank done it this way does anybody know that song target he's a real the country and western star songwriter singer of great musician who passed away about two years
ago and he was reflecting on his life compared to hank williams' life and i kept thinking i had that on my ipod the song and i kept thinking i kept getting i don't think shaq did it this way shakyamuni you know it's like
and question is this buddhism you know so that was difficult you know is this buddhism words is something added on to buddhism but it's what
we were doing
it was quite cold you have no japan is incredibly ah technologically advanced society and then in many places they still hope paper windows you know as a
as a style as a matter of practice was thinking you know the the kind of the old the story that you could pave all the roads with rubber or you could wear rubber on your shoes ah and i felt like all that the parallel than my experience in japan and you should excuse me
me if the seems
perhaps critical or derogatory and parallel that i found was well you could heat the rooms
or you could heat the toilet seats
you know so bright you really grateful for those electrically heated toilet seats
you think it's probably get it
sometimes it was the only place you can go to get war
so if it was cold and the monastery style is you'd you don't wear a hat any place and you don't wear socks you know ah so actually i had my little
the had this little black cap and whenever i get around the corner building
but mostly i didn't cut any corners ah
as i said there was not much as ours in which was difficult because zazen was actually wonderful and grounding to us to the americans ah ah and they would have helped to to have done more i think ah when we did as as in though knows our buttons
it's pretty much the soto style to ah you know i didn't know sabaton said zero g t ag so gg and they weren't at a when when we got there the first time and hey nine either so think about doing the seven days to achieve with nose up at times
yeah yeah not not so easy
right on the floor with wooden floor just met new yeah it's toward ah it was a training experience which was difficult you know it's difficult if you're twenty three years old which most of the monks were ah it's pretty much even more difficult if
you're fifty five fifty six years old was a lot everything happened very fast this morning i was thinking has is so great i have time to put my man out i have time to bow i have time to get up things happen like
really fast and you know for the first week i was always i felt like i was always behind
and i talked to i had ducks down with hurghada sick a who
was kind that use one of our lectures and he was kind enough to talk to us in is well ah
just be behind you know that's okay don't get caught and been behind that was very helpful you know so i just it wasn't like i took my time but i just did what i could you know and
can try to take care of it we changed we had to change our clothes like a dozen times a day in the robes added the robes into some way out of some way you know and that was part of the because part of the training really ah
so it's very much more our training was really the monks training and this made sense and wizard odd position to be in in a sense because we were like way senior literally and years and also in practice and yet compared to these young monks we know anything
i mean we really didn't know if we came in for new note into the into the dharma hall on the buddha hall so we know where to stand you know or we had to be trained to figure to show us how to actually walk in the room you know so this is all training which means you go through a kind of
you have to go to a very narrow place he with yourself to be able to open up and accept the training
so that was difficult
was also difficult the second day a guy that i instantly liked that the dock on roshi and oct often the the teachers are called by their position like the ten xo kenzo roshi or joke on rocio or tonto roshi
ah you know you're you pretty much named by your position rather than your your actual names of the docomo she was really he was really good guy later he in the middle of sixteen
he just came up to me were walking in the hall and passing and
know he just came at me and stopped and smiled said could shake is on gum batty you know which was it was not just it was really you know it's like boom really reached me you know it was not a formalism and was just very sweet he was really engage
urging me
it means persevere you know go for it ah it's so pretty
i think it's a very common japanese expression yes yeah ah
on the second day ah
after at some i think i have chosen that we had he said well
i was really happy to see that you all knew how to use chopsticks
you know
i then i knew i thought okay things are gonna be okay
and this was very sweet on the one hand and you know on the other hand each so what have we been doing for twenty or thirty years
so there's you know a difficult thing is reckoning with
a fairly common experience that
coming at us that no westerner could really know anything
about anything that was any a bad xin for things that were a culturally different ah and there's a little bit of truth in that but not that much you know we've been trying to do this for a long time we do not eat with chopsticks you know we know how to bow in
in fact our training is very good there was nothing that we did that was like radically unfamiliar ah but ah
that came at us it came addison in subtle ways in an enron subtle ways but a button also it was not harsh was free kind you know ah so that was good you know the whole feeling it does ryoichi was ah
was really wonderful that way and then final the final difficulty was just that ah
our group had
maybe not the best group dynamics are scruples six of us ah and wasn't so easy we didn't get along so well ah actually i got along with everybody but are you know there were like these two clusters that didn't get along so and i don't want to go into it but it's like
i think the real truth of it is that this was so hard for all of us i mean the first i'll say that the first three days i really didn't know if i could do this and then checking with other other people who came out they didn't know if they could do it in i just thought you know maybe i'm going to have to pack it in and
go home ah which would be
terrible know ah
anna had you know it's like i had this tightness in my belly and my body was tight know is cold and it was i just said you know i've experienced this before
with myself ah so let me sit with this discomfort and let's see where it goes and if it really gets bad go you know but i think it's going to move which is what which is what it did ah but i think part of the reason that we didn't get along well
as a group was at everybody was in survival mode
you know everybody was having a very hard time and it's hard if you're fifty one guy had two heart attacks ah
ah you know
had had had had but he had one know but but it's interesting he had one earlier that year but he had one fifteen years ago when he was at haiti he was a hatred for a year and it's like
is a kind of guy that was in heavy denial he had a heart attack but he was a so he just ignored it
and just went on you know running down the halls polishing the things you know he just figured and i admire him for this i think it's kind of nuts but i admire him you know he just said well if this is where i meant to die mrs okay
you know that was the decision that he reached
i'm so those difficulties or it was also wonderful the spirit of zoo yoji which has been a very traditional monastery really trying to do this dobyns practice was very warm and encouraging ah and kind in that spirit flowed from the app
but nagasaki suga and who was just a he looked a little like yoda you know very strong but very warm and kind and flexible and just he was joyous you know and that's what flowed from the top down through all the monks and all the teachers
no so ah and and unlike places like age are so gg there was none of this kind of martial feeling even though they did duggan's practice they didn't a very natural physically natural way with not easy but they were in when they moved it
wasn't in this there was nothing mattered about their movements of some have you been to age in so gg right and you've seen the way they it's almost like choreographed and wasn't like that people just moved ah and people made mistakes because it was a training monastery and you know they didn't get yelled at they would make a mistake and then we had shows
on every morning chosen like morning tea and we would line up and they would make a cup of matcha you know ground t that grantee that whipped up everybody got a couple of matcha and but before we do like we do in on also we do our bows and then we turn around
and say ah we say good morning or ohio goes i'm us so they would say ohio goes i must and then whoever had made a mistake the day before would just say i'm sorry and it would be gone you know ah and they wouldn't be rated for it
so the practice that was very nice ah it was beautiful and you can see there's i put up some pictures outside ah of kind of some of what we experienced the young monks were really smart you could just see you know sometimes you look around you see a look of intelligence on some
bodies face like we saw this on everybody's face on all these guys' faces and and i like them we got to be friends with them we worked with them we worked in the kitchen every third day and we you know we went on we went begging with them which that's a whole other thing was pretty funny ah
the food was wonderful ah
we had a
breakfast in the in the zendo ah and then two meals in this kind of dining hall and it was always good and wholesome it was surprising sometimes they serve meat or fish what they serve whatever was offered by the by the dunga the the community so of people gave sushi or something now then week
i served it ah the meals you'll see there's a meal there's a picture of a oreo key meal out there the meals at session were like completely over the top we had seven bowls
your usual preset has five balls
which when we only use three so if the fireballs and then they would come around with trays with these extra side dishes you know what can be like big plate of fruit or you know tempura or something it was quite incredible food was good and i ate all i wanted and lost fifteen pounds maybe this is a new this is a
new weight-loss program
you know and it was like and it wasn't weightwatchers we ate a lot of starch at first it was heavy on starch we had meals we'd have breakfast to like rice gruel and then three kinds of potatoes
it's like what are they thinking
but but the forbid it was delicious
and the cooks we really we hit it off with the cooks a lot
ah
just a practice and train there was was a wonderful gift you know it's sort of embedded in my mind and now it's a place that you know that i have some real connection to ah in i'm glad of all the places we could have gone this is one of the most
wonderful ah our helpers from soto shoe were great the younger guys the older guys are the the heads of departments i'm not so sure about that's another story but the younger guys who in their forties a hickey son was in san francisco ah
and as they were so sweet and they had a hard time to they were really not used to sitting zazen you know ah so they didn't they skip the lot you know but they just we're always helping us in surprising and subtle ways and one of them
a friend connie on japanese guy in the soto education office in in
yakama
add a blue he you know i in tokyo or other he appeared at their height oh it's so do at so gg we were so happy to see him you know it's like he was so busy and he just came to be with us he didn't need to be with us it wasn't he just felt connected after being with us were three and a half weeks
so deeply appreciative of them
so have some final thoughts and than the few minutes for questions or
my main practice i had to work a lot containing my own preferences my
dislikes my like of practice here ah
and tie practiced a lot trying to contain them and trying to keep a kind of silence and not you know how easy it is to try to get somebody on your side you know it's like if i don't like something or i know like someone you know then try to get an ally
hi who also doesn't like it you know but try not to conspire about dislikes therefore planting it more firmly and also to try not to be drawn into
situations where other people were trying to do that night it happened around one of the teachers it was one of the teachers people really didn't like they really thought he was arrogant and he didn't have
he was not open to to us and they were very you know they made they were really trying to argue us into this point of view are keeping our group and i just didn't want to do that because it was also something that i was getting from this teacher ah so contain
painting her preference containing dislikes ah that was a very important practice and in the context of that practice also ah
i took a week or so to find the clarify this thought as a practice from is over to finally just saying yes to everything whatever they asked us to do to say okay i'm gonna do it
a lot of it made no sense or i didn't even know what was going on you know or they hadn't explained it you know so the practice was just to say yes which is ah
difficult for westerners i think it's more part of the training actually of being ah i've been in a japanese culture but
do you know we can resist a tooth and nail ah and ah
i just tried to do that and i feel good for doing that ah
working with my comparing mind you know trying to think or what
this doesn't make sense this you know what we do here makes sense or what we do here you know it's kind of lame compared to what they do they're just like forget it
this is not useful
when you're there you do what's there when you're here into its here and over time you find what works what's useful
ah

i've been thinking and i will think for a long time ah
sort of questioning the institutional for organized religion nature of so dose in prickly they're not so much here ah and yet i also appreciate the connection i appreciate ah the people that i meet who are really practicing contender there are plenty of them
ah
there's a large question of what is our relationship for the long run in order relationship between east and west where's that going to go and you know it can actually may not go anywhere ah i don't know but
mostly what i value is just connecting with people i'm not so interested in making official connections with his soto zen is it's like the vatican you know ah this is this is not faith this is organization and yet within any organisation organization
guns are made of people
and and you know there's something of great value there in those people ah so that's a open question and finally ah
from very early on just incredible gratitude to our teachers ah you know our present teacher to sojourn but also to suzuki roshi in my zoomy roshi and category roshi and and corbyn chino as
and other people like i study with this rinzai teacher hurghada show though all of whom worked on trying to figure out what to bring here to the west and what to leave behind
and i just i i feel it our
they went about this with a kind of genius that's hard to it's like weird that had they figure that out how do they know what to leave what to take ah and in a very grateful because everything there's nothing that we do
everything that we do i saw done there like the meal chant that we do at
this morning same thing the meal ritual the serving virtually the same translated into english and what i also think it's great is we haven't
eight it onto it you know we haven't made it more baroque or more elaborate there were no elaborations that if that have evolved here ah so there's something really
clear and pure about what would you know clear stream that flowed to us from from those teachers and i think that it's really important for us to preserve that clarity you know not not pollute it ah and be respectful of it
saying that
you know that they saw was which which doesn't much exist there in japan was our teachers had this vision of a kind of hybrid lay ordained they didn't see such a distinction between
priests and lay people whereas there still isn't very complete distinction you know the practice that we saw it's a eulogy wonderful it it as it was was almost entirely for monks
bugs not leaving monks and nuns nuns were welcome they came during session ah but you had a practice that was not
ah very few lay people very few women and very little
oh
kind of social engagement which we have here in which are many of us have been involved in so ah i'm grateful for our teachers encouragement and net and in the last point you know ah
many of us over times not necessarily at the beginning
ah we learn to love zazen
you know we really see it has what you know dogan referred to it as the the dharma gate of repose in bliss
you know and maybe it's not so blissful for the first ten years or so
you know but it can come to be that
and whenever you do it it's it's a refuge ah and i think we have that in our bones and that's part of the stream that flows or third our teachers really loved sazon i think a lot of ways that's why they left japan you know because ah
there's a lot of lip service given to it but there's not a lot of people practicing zaza
ah in fact the tonto roshi was reported to us by one of the students and some eog he said something like well
nobody likes and but we have to do it
you know this is not exactly what was right for efforts ah sometimes we don't like thousand ah
but this love of zazen
i think is the most precious thing that was given to us ah
you know it was an attitude which we have to then
in body discover for ourselves and we do it in faith i didn't in faith yeah it was not easy for me for a very for very long time but i had faith in it and i could see it working in some way and now just to come in here predicted come in like a new year's eve which was my
first time back in his endo and just sit for three or four hours this like ha and then the same thing this morning ah and i regret that i didn't meet a lot of people there who i felt
had access to that experience ah so that's enough it
it's almost a well it's almost time to end but of time for a few questions so thank you for listening to my rambling su
batman

yeah
or was perspective that made her
i can't say it was very male you know and i can't say whether it was whether i think part of the discomfort for pad and for saisons saunders they're both are disciples of my zoomy washington and bernie glassman i was in the maleness and we
we talked about that ah
it wasn't a harsh kind of maleness you know ah
but ah
you know she knew that you in the only women there ah so that's already puts you in a certain class there were more women who came in precision and their women who have who have trained their and practice there and the place was open to it but
structurally it was not easy and other teachers they're all men and older monks were me and there were no known as there at the moment
in i'm not quite sure there wouldn't know what to do with one you know but it's happen from time to time i think a practice their i think she was there for a while because category where she was very closely connected with so yoji
and
i wanna tell you that my reaction to your orange street and then came ah
and i play about this to yeah go ahead
so
since i saw it i'd seen the pictures just now suddenly i saw that oh no
he's got an orange stream
ha
he's come back with do dance
right
q my as you know my i always have a reaction of irritation to additional do that any kind and then my association with and you know i saw you valley had to do an extra little flip
it's right on your nice little simple stick and then that's right association is the last
image was you know this is like a noose this is a fetter and so what do you say
can i say i did it on purpose so that i would have to deal with it and you would have to deal with it ah and i did it
you know it's like not from now on i'm i'm not going to this one of the things i thought about is well if i invited all these forms you know then you know like i could do things that you know then why would you think that were fancier than mill you know
not that he doesn't know how to do them you know psych and which is totally not what i want to do
which in a way is exactly if if you can if you can stretch your logic and new mine and so i that's exactly why just said okay they gave me this this was given to me it's so digit and by it i wouldn't have bought it ah
the i have the one that male gave me the too that mel gave me which i love and it's actually much better made this one this one the scroll doesn't go through you know ah but they gave me this and i thought as long as i'm talking about japan i should bring out the jap
ponies paraphernalia you know and the same thing i don't plan to wear this robe everyday even though there's actually nothing fancy about it ah but i find it a little bit garish
ah you know ah but i thought well this is what i had to rip were so it's good that it pushes buttons you know and it gives us something think that and talk about
but
rigging
we've learned a lot about dogan enriching ah don't teach her
he actually didn't even wear his okay so he only kept a very plain okay so and so railed against these brocade rob a robed priest and he was so dedicated that most of time he didn't even wear his okay so you know not out of lack of reverence but out of cultivating simply
city and i think it's good that we cultivate simplicity and i wore my new away robe as much they could because i like that you know it's made my hand
ah so that the short answer paul i was curious how did the translators translated have to get japanese translator oh we had this this great guy who works at the soto's in education center in san francisco degas goku roommate he lives in san francisco zen center ah
has dagger guy i think means like tall tree and his ex six seven he's i told them call i think ah or about ah
now has he has no hair
a skinny too
he looks like one of the ants actually
ah he live twenty seven years at hosts shinji and so he's pretty functionally bilingual he did a great job you know so he was translating a for us
give us the other
yeah well no back and forth
they would stop yeah ah
yeah
sherie
i don't want to change
connect
you experienced that everything was doesn't
no accidents actually what extremist was they said everything was awesome
i'm not so sure that everything was as him
so i won't see that concentrating to the could have happened yeah
and if you all here for lasted the whole this year my concern and also and also and she's ringing the peace through that area and he had what's happening there is the whole thing nature change that policy everything yeah
forty four countries now here in the airports right small airport of their care and everybody wants to collaborate and sin so as association be announced their down as if the land of the peace here so
so that that's why one talk to you and i want to help up everyone here to bring the anything can think none as far as the food the only food in on a blanket it just it's pile there every country's trying to give more and more
his soul and also at the whole
the abandoned about what he and situation and everything has gone they took everything politically from bit everybody is getting that's just how you a piece so i am a bot home see looking at how natured has a power head and a lot of nature was done
can it just it's all her first ah and then l a paddling and then i will share with him this even though as earthly fifteen thousand yeah
because and this shouldn't happen to other kind of glance and the same earth could have appeared last two people saying is a in over six
yeah
so this is this is a first time happening in that area it's not the lander work with this is the first time is happening and with it's always sad
that there is all on the desert and sam
and the the most reliable advocates say it's a maze of i was watching the fight to and sentiments in the morning everyone is sleeping inside and the achieved our the most survival if she has been five months old six months or years of it's amazing how energy has happened in his now
so let me ask you let me make a suggestion and asked the question
the question and then we'll end the question is ah
what's your request from us
yeah
i need the i need there
the ideas okay how we can keep this become as if we're right in education they are sending the press
then having a website and gary
really bringing that the land of the peace reading this the nation is out there but making and also i have treating to this morning
release came from i've never read it news already so i need this energy isn't it we need this help
well they make a suggestion he talked to sue
ha who had it's turning wheel but also after when we go out why don't you know anybody who would like to talk to sonia about it please please do i think this is i think this is a it's important in this is a a good connection to make at the end
thank you thank you
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