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Working with Pain, Sesshin

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we just that
sitting for long periods of time
let up moving
that's so easy
so i to talk a little bit about it
now
you're not going to sit
for long periods of time without moving
it's necessary to have flexibility
isn't it
if you have rigidity
then i can't do it easily
about easily but you can't you can't do it easily it's an important to find a flexible way
are two things one is our body and the other is fine
soak of mine
to have a flexible body and inflexible mind
so what creates a flexible body is a flexible mind because body and mine hundred have two different things
i didn't mind and one
so much am might have let the mind how the mind works
vets and body works and vice president the minds those things through the bottom and the bodies of things because the mind
so
you can do various exercises to loosen your body terrorism and muscles and ligaments anybody
and you can also do goes and guess you covered exercises tourists in their mind
so
i'll tell you but i do
but i do when my
but i find some discomfort in my knees or my legs
that gives me that tells me something
the says
now's the time to do something actually before that happens
i should know now's the time you do something
because soon as you sit down when you sit down in the beginning of a period
you may have a little discount bet
patiently years okay
it has time as interpreted as the the current progress is suddenly there's this pain
then it's almost too late
so when he shut down when i sit down
i
i just my mind
to relax
and just my mind's to
think about my body
what's happening in the body because they get my serves as an instruction
and she as my mind is concentrated in the body
answer them
i think
open
your body
open your legs now my legs are like grinch planted in the earth and they're not moving
but i have to open them
open them up
whatever sensation is there to open it
to other words to let it be there to be aware of whatever sensation is there even when it's not hurting
the always be aware whatever sensations there and to accept it
and then as the period progresses the sensations change and become more intense and as they become more intense each intensity you open to
shut it by the time you would ordinarily get caught by pain you're already open to the sensation and it's no longer dominating you
what i give a talk like this
i will talk for couple hours and not even know that my legs exist why is that
the shop off that
yeah
because i'm not attaching to the sensations
so we tasked with prompt the problem is that path that there's pain but that were attached to the sensation
your attention sensation because we don't like it
soon as i don't like this because
so this card doesn't the teaching of jackson is that discrimination
no discrimination means don't get caught by
rejected and and attaching
several injection or
version is attachment
grasping is also of attachment these are the two forms of attachment grasping and rejected
so zazzle buddha's teaching us something doesn't it but is changing that's where we get our teaching the teacher may say things patches usually doesn't the teacher
it's teaching us be careful not to attach to immersion
so the more a version we have some more pain we have
even when fans really same it's just that we experience it more intensely because for attachment
you know a little oh a p an issue
oh yeah mattress p in the mattress what p under the mattress cleaning fish that could get as much for the visually
he can expense you are scream screenplay
so would i think when i'm sitting zazen is and i and i'm aware at the sensation and as the sensations become more deaths and to open up open open open open because
as car
conditioned responses close down close down goes down so it's
a counterintuitive
i've usual response is dualistic
the usual response is discriminating
so counterintuitive means start discriminating
that's the teaching as good as peaking stop discriminating discriminating mind is what creates a problem
that's why
oh
the insurgent we like are discriminating night even though we think it
describing a man is something that we should cultivate that are thinking that are trying to cultivate six discriminating mind
it's almost impossible
did you got almost impossible
but as possible
so we all have from looks rather have opinion in just like everybody else
but i'm a mystery that you get used to it so never unattractive that dinner and present but if you when i feel some pain
i think i can go of various ways they're getting oh my god are going to tell you this with the residence ashley ten
that's looking down the road
you can't look down the road soon as you start looking down the road you're lost
stop looking down the road oh my god then in your condition in your mind
the condition in your mind i know how it's going to be
that's come for foretelling the future which is am no no in buddhism
thank you for for to tell him tell him future is a good think of it really have predictions the future you will be a a it
if you get festival interest
but them
yeah you just have to be right here it forces you to be present that's so well what we think of as an impediment of called pain is actually a present because it's giving us the opportunity to give be present
to float advantage if you think it's a bad thing you can't do it
it's just what it is a sensation
sensations one sensation and so we experienced one the sensation academic we experience when sought after another
and if we can let us go more or less but how do you let sensations go that's harder
but we can't let the sensations go we think we're stuck with them back burner
we can be stuck with them to we wanted if we start if we discriminate we're stuck with it so this is that the process the sensation comes and we opened to the sensation just like reopened do i thought
and then we left the sensation of
because we're opening opening and then you expand to cover the universe
do you feel good you feel joy
the sensation is a balanced sensation you know and i don't know where it is
incest this sensation and but it's
if she has wonderful
if i discriminate it really terrible
the what if you have pain that persists for many hours after your done doing zack
ha
know what has be specific because each pain is different each sensation is different in each situation is different so there's no formula for and deal with it but i had every sensation that everybody else and share in my fifty
years of practice i have suffered
but it always goes away
news research that so
somehow
i headed to make sure the difference
attitude makes a big difference yet we
i feel that i've been hurt
james that's one kind of additives if you feel
i've been hurt but i don't think that i i heard
but and will that worry about it
that's a better kind of attitude
my attitude i can i tell you about manager and i really can't tell you about what to do
my attitude is it since i stubbed my toe and go ouch
and then let's forget about it
and it's gone i don't feel anything after it
this is my way of dealing with pain
ouch
and then i'll just go on him something happened back there but i'm not carrying it around with me
so there are page that we carry around regarding should have we think
but there are plans that we carry around for various reasons
and we can make them into something
he can use them for in various ways
it all depends on your attitude
our attitude is really makes a big difference in how we reached receive hold and
deal with
it added activities such a big factor
if i have self concerned
then it becomes a beating a big deal if i don't have self concerned it's not such a big deal
so my particular way of dealing with these problems is not to have self concern to that goal saskatoon
when i first started to practice
my teacher was so inspiring and i had such terrible pain i mean if i understand the surface we all go through it
i vowed that i would stay in my position even to be killed me
so i just threw myself into the mcafee kills me it's okay
i'm just doesn't take care of everybody's difficulties i'm just tell you about my additive
john
you know if the highest level of competitive endurance sports enough there is also considerable pain in fact it seems as if but people to win
are the ones who can endure pain that the greatest amount of pain and you can see it on your faces right that that's he's really different to me because that they are really striving for something right
yes
you know
my and to us i was driving
to find out how to
finally get through the barrier show that i could relax
so you strike after strike you have to strive and key get to the point where you go through the barrier and nickolenko and it's neck you don't have to strive anymore
but yeah there is
this printer and the long distance runner
zen practice is ten by the long distance runner not by this printer the sprinter wants to have some
we strive to
do something quickly and was other energy especially cats
that's not i said practice
so we've done striving enough is not to get someplace but you have it when you're confronted with the problem you have to get through the problem
you have to deal with problem
this mad about try to get some marriage you how i deal with the problem
it's not it's not as professionals not sports game is that when you sit down to doesn't know who paid is there
but you're not trying to do something
and then
that causes you pain
the that to instantly because you pain trying to do something it is the games there and
in order to get to the other side you have to persist the other side means are you
let go of you discriminating mind just the outside
i believe understood what you said about you stub your toe ouch
when we watch the news or read the paper and we experienced pouch of the world i don't think you're advocating living on yes i am
otherwise you get stuck there
everybody does everybody gets sick
everybody has paid everybody suffers
how'd you get free that
if i read the paper
and i wasn't free and he said
creative doesn't mean you ignore it when you take it in but you don't
if i couldn't go on and still be sitting at the table mahinda
that doesn't help anybody
that does not help
you can't get stuck if you're going to help people you have to move on
you can't get yourself if when your police have a rippling people have the letter you also have to hold doesn't appear
you can fall down into the pit you can pull down the pit okay
headline but you
to be effective
you have to be able to pull yourself up
so yes you have to move on that you it's just like says him
he has the pain but you can't get stuck here
everybody is separate
yes the nature of human life way or another
and i guess i would like to ask you to discriminate between the lack of southwestern and lack of self-awareness and i'm thinking specifically of my mom is that for just turned seventy nine yesterday
and she
has a really poor health now because of decades and decades of lack of self-awareness to me i've seen it reflects she would never fly shoes that fit because she always wanted to save money and as a result now she can hardly walk and she's had like four foot surgeries because for feeders and bath and their law
like i mean i feel part of like and my mother's knife
the i forgive you many other examples of that so you're my own practice you know i i i carry my mother's time with of
a tendency to be lack of self aware and so i asked myself what is the difference between have enough to zone myself and being so unaware of myself that i do something over the top the hell sell concern
the certainly over the top of february is called self pity
that's what fuck if anyone use ever word but i would love
collection
it's something you know my for me me
that just leads to
more suffering
the yeah it's a when creating separate infusions soon using oh it isn't you see a problem as your as your job there's no more suffering and your free

hello lucky to bar only the thousand
hey what i would i heard where your get though was actually put self-awareness you began this lecture and they are talking about self awareness taught best self awareness and self care yes absolute desire
to register to bring it back to her way that's because that's packed with your starting point that how we take care of your body when you sit down this ah so
free that thank you very much as will take care of your body and your mind when you should munitions doesn't work which means always government
the freeing yourself from yourself
freedom it means three years of from yourself that's we live
because you're the only one and keep you in bondage
nobody else keeps your body
you keep making myself in london i know how to keep myself in package so to you but how to free yourself from that is more difficult
that's what i said it's about
teresa from your own but have you keep yourself captive
hmm
i'm curious about this problem version version version because it seems that if you just don't keep anything out
he just include everything yes exactly wrong into their own private perspective
hey whatever
ah virus then the moment i try to keep something out
say know that first accurate or the sensations that good
and everything tends to shit basically
and so what is it
when i do we avoid going to the version
oh
dang and
accepting right away that's what i'm talking about were soon as you said that you accept everything right away you don't wait until something bad contract or happens you don't wait for them you would you accept everything from the beginning that's what i
st catherine that that's how i started up you except every sensation from begin so without discriminating it said the by the time to get to the sensation that you want to discriminate against you it's already not discriminating so it just falls into place
as new sensation whereas if you didn't do that even start screaming
family
kim
ah
he came to as it's as successful this question
fear that
he reminds me of what you were saying of great artists you take in
the and act and respond
so yeah just to say that a response having let go
it
emotional impact on whatever a response could still happen
either yes yes but always responded yes and
if you know
you feel the impact of human suffering
that's it as well as the fit is to suffer with other people
karuna means to suffer other people to separate the suffering of everybody
that's them
that's what means
so
we do that but that doesn't really get caught by it
that's the difference

we have them a bit of a larger vision and was left seventieth
so let me can
no no it
and
deal with it and feel it
and the same time
ah
country from it
getting treatment doesn't be ignored or running away
within a separate is where we have to find our freedom
not have signed it so he said the first noble truth is that being seven
and children
jackie moon he says he only thing i teach is suffering and tattered country from it
so it sounds like you escape from separate by avoiding it
in assessment that of that's okay but your way you treat yourself with by entering it
you will we free ourselves from my pain as soon as you start to right away from it chases you just gets worse and worse you had to be one with it
so what i'm talking about is being one of the bank
being one with the pyramids to opened up so that instead of it
boy and home you you expanded civility
the new
you blow it up methods
yeah
ines
hitler i see it all around me
we say outside
what is this is the in
then students disease
seriously i mean you open to pain gave open to sleepiness synchronous are sleeping as much bit more difficult
this is actually hundred and said something we should you well you know this is the this is the perennial unsolvable problem
hey there are many you know when people that way you do this at know
no
what she says and
well as is that
i just like to the hiccups
you know you put a bag over your head
but i have a hell of meditation generous as he was given to me by in the russian when i went to japan get a diamond transmission everything simple
anything in a tourist this is clearly and ever in the earth
paddington check because it's a know i was next door but i was watching ellen
yesterday morning early yesterday
only we get a chance
the i'm going to get my children this
i better he said

give this to teacher hundred pounds over that's the hardest part

such the question is seeking it
i was see
listed as you could say well i should speak on the threat to still alive let's hope you know set onto the night and just sleeps half an hour an hour or something and then he'll be easily
we can people do that by it's about this it's also easier is where you're hungry eat we will when you're sleepy you sleep there are some teachers say don't disturb the person they're sleeping some people like you wake you up up and then some people say oh poor guys sleeping
so anyway we were kind of in between
if
since he can't wait somebody up
nice well then fleet
how are laid awake at is not the opposite of seat
know that sense it's low so you can be awake when you can be awakened while you're asleep
when completely completely seattle if you're completely sleeping on the problem is the capacity
it's not complete you have completely sleeping it's a way
you are person as you you've taught and its target at sleek as a hindrance seeking assistance and that how you discern between the sleeping set his is keeping you from
pay attention and sleepiness this to times yeah well that's yeah
know anything either
we leave such busy lives he lead busy lives
rushing to this pleasure that as we don't get enough sleep
in a much nothing the fans in the monastery of people only sleep a couple hours a night or died at all
during shushing
but the lives are regulated in such a way that
their intimate still there isn't much more you need to you get
i mean that's true
you don't need very much get such meetings
and
i also get enough sleep during the night they don't get so sneaky in the daytime
it's a no sentence no second
check and less than just vegetable sushi
i've started a fight visiting here
has his trachea is a saucer cheney so we have better death
well i don't a better than one
how something i've been afraid of running from the well evidence is as it is
zazen is to die

yeah
but who does what is for that
so you know
ordinarily
we have birth and death and it be doing the vicissitudes of life
well because of it
but
buddhist understanding is that
actual reality in britain difference there is no such thing as simply continuation of karma
which doesn't necessarily mean reincarnation
his continual transformations so there's nobody within the transfer there's no nobody was a little transformations that keeps transporting the simply transformation
so
the problem we serve the problem because he said it herself
and the self
is what we call the one who's who is born and dies
but in a larger sense is simply a continuation so it looks like
a

a dilution the one hand
and
as a dime is analysis
in christian terms you use a heaven and hell and and you've got to win place or another and then your body is transfigured and chocolate
this is a better understanding
so
guys we got will live
so instead of worrying about time we should be concerned about how we live
and the way we live in the way we die
unless something happens by accident you know
but and nevertheless getting this kind of context
where we live the way we done so
if we live three a beagle we i frequently go
if we live
if if
we live with them
you're in in distressed and hate is that festival die between the in loving kindness and compassion and a trio
the world than the fabrica
so than a formula you know
but because we can understand this with every breath because every breath it's about his birth and death
it's not just an idea up or that it's actual birth and death
inhaling his birth national he said this dip is not just an idea
we're heading hard and i like that analogy back than go at it on it's not annihilation
if
this breath
he's creating his this leaving
that's also creating something else called van halen
which is also creating something go essay on which is awesome code internet so it's simply continuation and when we start breathing
we don't know what happens
speculation
but whatever it is you can't lose
by living this life that in reality
he cannot switch
there's nothing to lose
how have you know years had canada
say
well
i was struck by
i left it seems to me that the energy around a solid ice makes all the difference in that i was struck by you're saying that you sat with such fearsome as estate as you were so inspired by the future
it seems to me that i may have this understanding about them that there isn't it i sometimes feel an edge of fierceness and sandwiches a what it means to be a good sense to just do it instead of of tap it through pace of simplex a happily know if it has had a bodhidharma
to pop your eyelids open
the that i miss the south pacific passionate inspiration images when you visit with you think that way but if you're practice you shoot
well sometimes i treat myself like them so
the night at separate not just do it and my rebel and it's of this nonetheless are rebuilt i rebel yeah well that's okay but get an apartment or rebel and this humor
you know this man and selection smart heard of him
if if you use your whole body mine who sang every moment
with what doesn't that with but session versus a your present totally on every moment
with your activity that's what it's about then you lose yourself
not about being shares it's about
giving up yourself
so
awesome yeah i remember that jan has always been a masculine more or less masculine oriented practice
and it has a kind of no flavor
in america
american is like the feminization of them
criminalization is and is one of the characteristics of
then in america
so
the softer side if you want to call it that the humanization of zen well knows are human and
it's not even human that's so more in the
he was a moment of my teacher was totally unique and he was japanese even the most human person i ever saw he was the softest person i ever saw as well as the most determined person i reserve so you never see things like that
it's not like were inhuman now that there's a misunderstanding consideration
yeah earth them and and
i think my outburst of this
i rarely go back to a mirror sandwiches that you practice fiercely the way described because of your love for your teacher know
i said to my teacher i didn't say this i should i'm going to do this in spite of you
time
there when i was practicing i said
maybe he maybe it doesn't think i should be doing this
henderson i'm going to do this again do it in spite of these that respites it better
yeah
the
i didn't do it for him and still private practice
you marriage still packing a simple isn't it
cliff edges and looking very you feel a gender
the course i suggest gender different that my way you just said it was
different from iowa's right furniture which is that you were holed into something you might try to force is there isn't a flood in my truck why this is the jargon the superego kind of that directive to oneself to make myself do something it's a it's a different that's the energy that is trying to find
she is drawn into and toward rather than fighting against or tyler name was
yeah
there's a balance of forces
it's always a bouncer
the sort of side and the except in we used to call it that masculine or feminine and don't know if that hurts anybody
but
the masculine independent and for the harmonization of a masculine and feminine
for the masculine
push hard
the feminine except
and so we have both of those voices inside of us and how to harmonize those two aspects of our bringing his show you can't just take one friend she that's when you do
doesn't doesn't yeah
grandparents them and the other parts of the enemy which if i'm sure that you i'll experience myself time sometimes i'm called to safety
so
a to bring us to sides in dominant that's what we're working with all the time
seven seven is is too forcefully are too masculine we travel bring out it
more such a feminine side with someone's to friend and you try to insurance and more forceful said
some the and both of those sites that are present
so
ah
i appreciate the fact that day

tim
yeah

what makes something viable or is that you willing to die for it
this is just the way the world works if you're willing to die for them this the open you find the ultimate meaning in it
if you're not them it's harder to find the ultimate meaning in what you're doing
note for body than motion mind
those who are intellectual than those who are practical
practice this post but in mind practice it's not one sided have begun
so it's not our preoccupation is our occupation shooting isn't but you with occupies us it's not preoccupied
so we're off here on purpose
and we going to here on purpose i can tested where you can
what are here because this is that can feel the we want to do not something that were forced to do
and
yeah
i had heard conversation
i can't say that i often get nauseous when i get my patients and they seem surprised recognized that they actually i
that ah there's this sense to us in our mind can take him for over what yeah come that we want to have leather to on onset now whether it's to are actually just with steps when it's neck concluded afterward effort there's a quote is enough as it
like our bodies really are certain
and that's not like here have you started the conversation and on that i'd like to just bring us back
how be fine how easy it is a separation
entirely or wanted accepting why i like is whatever's happening to over his old age and policies which have whether it's a pain in the me and try to serve as been something that is something they shouldn't sit through
i have friend russian and disk in his back on high settings in you want a good student and now he can't walk so that's not a stroke way of a
p antibiotic there isn't a skillful way mine's not a separate from what idea of flexibility and i really discern what's happening responded i serve my favorite what vs off i saw as as into that has a story about about going to be
able to walk next week we're not just a to and then it's incumbent on us whether we're actually making right africa
we've really concerned with where ah
cotton or story while you were truly responding to what it is that these

thank you
everyone
this has been a real jury
as one who
has aversion to my pity story self pity i am practicing gentleness with it
and it's a story it's where these toys
i think of granddaddy talked about the sentient beings and that we have innumerable sentient beings and we take care of them and so
to be gentle with the choice i make to move
ah you know to stop the story of i shouldn't have done now if i move
and and the whole drama about them being the good sensitive or
i sit through some pain and it's andrea said i i look at and i really appreciate how easy it is
to think somebody is doing it to and that were afraid of is a choice there's choice and how and i'm always having to step back take a backward step again what is this what is this and not hope there's a iranians
that that's another pitfall
anyway i'm thank you have is featuring
the sort of has a sock it to
that's excellent practice before i just wanted to our throat two things into this discussion left skillfully
the
the i think british people respond differently to different practices to finish
they found a tradition that works best for them
and throw that if they work and find freedom freedom tourism off and here was talking to respond to find freedom from every different traditions are and the other thing is i include have heard very often
the teacher sometime social virtue sometimes all the other teachers say i'm to tell you to keep still in you have to be okay that moving to have heard that whole law
and that captures kind of nice pounds
ah teacher says don't move to help yourself wake up stood says i have to hurting my vulva
and that's nice run african like she said not to give yourself a trip without the to for you to that's what you
i'm sorry with this one of those center
actually i got thirty seconds and vasco to sit still
i
this is constantly serve
circling around
some spot
what my upper body
guy can find
cause
the place where things balance out
the forest inserted cancel
and
but
here how it
right mr gibbons as a distraction is both downvote and that for that three three-year january been sitting as go well actually it's okay for extra heck guy and
ah
you know the ends
tired of practice
they said
i come here please you
where'd you say admiring your bag
by come here because
i love it here
and i feel joy
you know this is no such thing as inconsistent
here
should we just forgive them
you
influences him doing what we do with the conclusion for that trying to get ahead or compare years as soon as you start comparing yourself to somebody else
you know other business
here
everyone's is to the i'm doing over here and we're not trying to get agreement
and you know
the only reason why we go this way because he refused to that he do it earlier
together you can
that is this is the drugs you know this is the to place you
those who can't do it any other way
happy and it's a great coach hill
just like venice beach
when it
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and
with all due the children of his inventions because the ventures with back-to-back on the world report and they talked to italy and he was beautiful plant
was reminiscing about field country or whatever
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and complain
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