December 8th, 1985, Serial No. 00166

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A side b ed brown lecture?

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i did it by now you can talk to 'em
sometimes it's depend on the person i think it's mandisa for to explain you just in such as given suggestion to sit down with you could it and just a guy know sit down in your room and after her work the time
to think that
then they've quickly
not necessary to understand the meaning of sitting there
okay so i can take to the got there are other people who have no really for the have great breakthroughs in the to have practiced by know how have you a favor and
catherine putting up regret a method
you seem to help happen
me know how did the understand stand there like written by was no philosopher
he not really understood great with no
how know how to keep reached that point while that you can you can talk about that the new practice in terms of a and b or
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the the detail it helpful for the people
do you think go can we see world and to the fact that if
strongly i can say no one not cheap but it's possible
to reach the sea
but usually we don't need to see because we always hanging around see that's it the twain of kind of thing it's mason
we attain enlightenment by how practice and day we believe we are ten lightning but it is not real enlightenment we are just hanging around anyway enlightenment ruin it
that is very common
whoa intended the people who will see that like to get a brilliant mind ah so are you saying that some the people who seem to be enlightened i'll be done in life but it seems that seemed to be nice to attain enlightenment yes by it put pretty cross
but they are hanging around but it's better than nothing
so we have to still oh and we asked to embrace the by kindness of the mountains and rivers so that's where we have to walk together anyway
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you are there in the see work but still hanging around me is we don't rewrite exactly
but if you are anywhere in the kind of in the compassion of the mountains delivers all since you're being like that so-called seaward we'd have to be there we have to realize if we have to live up to it we have to transmit they say some person
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but why should they must mentioned zazi is buddha
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three dimension this because this is a most the peaceful way of life but if you use means as in other means to rewrite the universe the universe is with to so one with you that time we're if a juristic
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the rest of this side of the tape blank pleased fast forward a turnover side be a lecture by ed brown
sunday december lemon ninety three green dragon temple thank you
today when i've got about what to talk about
right when i thought about what to talk about today
ah i felt very cautious about
saying something about buddhist practice
are are given some a teaching
and i'd like to talk about
why i built a cautious about do them
and i'm going to tell you a couple of my favorite stories which have to do with the subject or not just this subject them
hey with it
one story is bad two young men who went into a catholic monastery
into
it can you want can you hear you just hear the wind
of me
when i first got out here this morning if it's so loud loud enough to the to can when you're outside you can't tell your stuff type
it's kind of burgundy
when you get inside you start safety pin
so this two young men went into the monastery and they both enjoyed smoking very much
and they with the during the breaks
in the daily schedule retain they with the relax together and smoke cigarettes
and sometimes maybe they will
have a pipe
and they got that this is not very good for our spiritual development we should find some way that you are practice to stop smoking
so
they continued their practice but try as than mine
they still continue to a smoking
even after six months and after one year
they still love to
take a break and sit down and relax
light up a cigarette or pipe
enjoy smoking
they found it very personable and they didn't want to give it up it was one of the if few
enjoy about really enjoyable things they can do rather than monastery and midst of the daily routine getting up early in the morning
having to do prayers for hours
by the actor
a year or more
they talk with each other and they thought
this is not break good there must be some way to combine these two practices the monastic practice and is blocking and make them one that so that we're trying to maybe there's some way that would bring it to together instead of having a spiritual life where we try to get rid of us not
teenagers somewhere combined them
so the first that that was let's talk to the avid about this so one of them went into the evidence said
and now i've been here for now for over a year and still
in all this time i i haven't been able to give up smoking
and i wanted to ask your advice about this
it's occurred to me that there must be some way to provide smoking in the life of prayer
and i was wondering if could be all right with you have during prayers
of in the chapel if i was to smoke and all your different prayers
if this would be all right with you
because they'd like to bring these two parts of my life together and navid said that is absolutely forbid
when you pray you should just pray and you can't be smoking and the jacqueline and fair
that won't do it all i'm sorry
so the a young men went away he was very discouraged wondering well how one of my right to do now
and he said to his friend you know that evidence is a very tough very strict and i don't think he understands about what we want to do
the other one said well let me try anyway
and he went in to the average and he said
the same thing i've been here so long now over a year and i still can't stop smoking
i enjoyed very much much as i try to
and not to smoke or try to think about smoking
i still enjoyed brand much
but one thing i was wondering is if well i'm smoking and be all right if i was afraid
and they it said well that's very good that's excellent whatever you're doing all the time of course you should be tried to pray also
so he was great
please put this suggests

anyway this is the how it is to try to practice buddhism
similar to this somehow we get the idea that five parts in ways that we can get rid of some parts of like that we think aren't so good birds
like smoking or have some bad habits we have
and it's a very perverse kind of thing because
if you're trying very hard not to think about smoking or wanting to smoke and you're thinking about not smoking and you're making this big effort to practice diligently after while it occurs to well you know
you have i have been practicing very hard now
it i've made a big effort and maybe it's about time i relax and have a cigarette
i'll just to kind of you know reward myself after all i've been really trying now and the i should have a little pleasure it's a bad time and just to encourage myself to do this very tough jokes and practice that i've stood out of fun
so this way much as we try to improve
or understand buddhism or practice buddhism the centre part of our life and death and in some way
doesn't seem very interested in purchasing britain
the the other story i have to talk about are you have to is also

i can't remember exactly where this story is supposed to have taken place but it damn it in a way it can be a green gulch because there are deer and the hills years to come down he didn't feel
this story about a farmer
and the farmer was very diligent
as the month and figures during
ah so the farmer went about cultivated fields and putting products and a quite often the dear
have we come into the field and starting
and this annoyed the farmer greatly because he felt
the those crops for his
they'd worked
to grow them and that dear was enough iskra
so he spends his daughter he called his daughter and he said his daughter i want you to go and kill the deer that's eating our crops
so the daughter got the they had a bow and arrow
derek got out the bow and arrow and went down to the fields and waited for the dear to come
and she waited very quietly
but is a deer cave and started eating and
she raised both just that the deer looked up and look to right in the eye and started singing a beautiful song
and the daughter started to cry it was so beautiful
and she dropped the boat and she went back home she said to her father i can't do it
the just looked me in the on and started singing and it was so unified i couldn't imagine killing him dear

so the father called son then i guess you're going have to take care of this
no
our sister here you can you know she didn't have the guts to do it so it's up to you now
so he went out there with the bow and the same thing happened just as he was about to shoot the deer
dear looked up with its big soft eyes it right into it was started stalking this beautiful song
and they said
couldn't imagine
killing that fear
the course when the father heard about this we stood damn it you know if you want something done around here guess you're just going to have to do it yourself can't rely on anybody do anything for it especially if it's no take some courage and
and he was quite determined to do to kill that fear
and so the deer came by and
same thing happened again
the deer looked up
it's big thighs
the to his faith
in started sending them a beautiful song he ever heard
sony
he left his boat era there in the fields
pick up lived in the they're playing along
hello

huh

by the story actually ended there but it ended before he picked up is good
in started playing along
i started to continue the story
we don't exactly know in this pendant stories of know who is the farmer
and who is the dear
or who is a no-go is right into is wrong

and whether it's better to be the par or better to be the dear
i better to be the one with
afraid or the one is smoking
after while we think about it we don't know the mark was who
and it sounds good in the first story that of
when you're smoking what did you was so brave
but actually the first way is not so bad to there must be some way to
invite
the person who enjoy smoking into the chapel to pray but unfortunately the person who enjoys smoking i think's wait a minute
i don't want to go in there if i go in there they're going to tell me a bad i am but it kind of bad person i am for enjoyed smoking so i think i'll just stay outside
and
the person who goes in and check within it's very serious
and devoted
it doesn't want this other character around
throughout my nappy seven digits
or so enlightened
and it would think that if we keep that fell out of meditation hall or out of the prayer
that will be the thing to do
and then eventually
that person will wither away
and by our hard work and effort
serious commitment to
of it is practice or a growing crops harvested them making money whatever it is we will succeed

who get somewhere

it never occurred to us that
rarely occurs to his death
but there are always be a dear like the deer feel they're always be someone who
enjoy smoking

if you go to invite the one who enjoy smoking into the meditation hall he was come on let's go and meditate together wanted to come with the oh your dog but he such a step in person
you get so serious i can't stand being around you
ha
then you know you have to
or maybe try something else as i've mentioned before
the sort of time surgical why don't you show me how to do with her
are you going indentation fall off follow after you and you can show me how to not be so serious about it and i'd like to see you do it in a way that's you know more fun i would you do it next while you're at it
and now be so serious about it

and it's the same thing one near smoking smoking that them
no i don't watch your applications for the fun

the farmer is very a no goal oriented serious makes an investment is cultivating his fields or himself or herself and then there's this dear
that is just eating really you know never made any effort is just enjoy the bounty of things without without having a word for it or separate order anything
and seems to be able to have a great time they just sing
and is very in some way
what's you look at in the face
directly
and made the deer face to face the deer turns out to be very appealing

this based that was eating up your crops turns out to be a very appealing creature
and seems to know how to have a good time and enjoy things in st beautiful funds
which you've been to build it to be to do too busy growing across
to visit to have a good time and sing songs and drapes up and
if the further comes along

i usually what happens is in our life we tend to identify with one of the other to farmers deer and the one thing that happens is if we'd been a good farmer for while some point in their life we may find that hey they've been the dearest much more fun
what have i skipped the the farmer and i can just allow just be the dear
and i'll go in the out his garage and of
brass people for making such a serious effort
and then how can he was fact it's so hard like that
what do you think you're doing
if you're gonna change something of
they you're going to get somewhere think you're going to become a better person gideon who are that's a laugh
you're crazy
it is wasting your life away know me let's have a good time now let's just let's just go and enjoy ourselves on

and that kind of creature that kind of know the when the farmer gets a little bit tired or the plant getting a bit tired you know the effort they are weakness
the concentration in is it breaks down
then ready there is ready
the
i got you
i'm in charge now
you're not strong enough to public meeting more you wiki you've learned
your practice isn't that good say i'm here now

even after all these years you see
i can still up
we haven't gotten rid of me yet

so then they are
know someone who's that
if we're trying to have become spiritual healer motivate ourselves how we can get very discouraged them

so we keep digging it's we tend to think it's either or
go either one of them it must be better to be one of the other and then we side with what the we identify who i am with one of the other
and it doesn't seem to a quarter as like the hill
they need some point does it make curtis funded like the most and that story that there's some way to france of the same time and maybe it takes the form of prayer and maybe takes the form of lucky

so anyway i want to
a mentioned a third character
the mystery character
the stories
oh he
and this is the person who tells the story
or the person who
as you go about your life
i do notice that there's someone who
seriously making some effort
he was accomplished something and you notice that there's
a deer or someone who likes to enjoy himself or herself
ha
and you say i noticed a team
so there's that person to the one who notices and can describe and talk about the other two
when they saw
in this person you can't describe
because he said as you described the person who during the describing
are you have another of
character in the scary president a person who's described the characters
so this person is the someone you can't really see or no
but it doesn't mean this person is not there and this is the person who
can practice really practice
who can now bring about practice of buddhism
in my life
and a simple way to describe that is them
for that person to say to the characters in story
in the great drama my life
somebody you get together
he my be friends
he's just a why you picked out enjoy each other's company
the somewhere you can not learn from one another
oh sometimes learn from the other
sometimes the teachers sometimes of to
to some way to do that
did you can find some way
please try them
then you're here you know like all the protests have been talking her but he's such a flake elegance like to sit around and smoke cigarettes i'm going to hang out with them the other guy says that he's so serious he never does
himself
you can't possibly different
at dear as he didn't have my crop
hey guys are with testers for

so
you can little by little maybe they will come on down to shake hands for them to
do something together
hey maybe sometimes former does put down to implement and except as flute enjoyed the sun
or maybe is dear of is like an oxford and plastic field
there's so many possibilities once they decide
once the first and john mr it gets the to efforts
can't she be friends
that's right

ha so him down
what are they are practice practicing content a zipper kind of will sometimes we thought might be too simple but i know suzuki she kept saying to make for the for several years and respected when you cook
cook when you're watching the rice watch the right when you cut the carrots cut the carrots
when you sit sit and when you eat eat and so on
hmm
i think mostly if we have that kind of the advice
we leave the deer out and we need to smoke around and made very serious they try to follow so that kind of teaching
inviting the deer of a smoker to come along and
be part of washington rise are getting repairs
what eating
so this kind of practice with nuts a simple and something we can do
day and and they have a moment after moment
how we do something with some honest like now
a someone new
if the wants to accomplish them and there's someone who just enjoys
if they get polarized the one who is serious and the no one gets are overly attached to things and the other one is completely unattached
and they wanted his unattached with his case world of always be undermining and
how upsetting the one who wants to accomplish thing
and will become very negative
when they worked together
they've been very positive
when they can enjoy to the company
so we have this kind of cats

another kind of back as to do with that in there

when you were when when i find myself criticizing
the deer for just avenue good time and not
not ever done any work
well maybe i can find out how to work at some joy
our some pleasure like the deer tick
while anyway if i find myself criticizing
these two if i notice these two are criticized each other i may have
remind myself why don't you see if you can find some virtue
need to look again and they're very closely and luca in that as an asteroid the the deer in the eye
and see if you don't see some virtue
i'll rather than keeping your eye on the crops that are being eaten and finding some fault
sir why hesitate sometimes to talk about but it's it's a person is i'm afraid
it
for the poor dear
that
if i talk about realism
oh we may be maybe people will get the idea to
the to shoot the deer with buddhist practice
and that's not the point
huh

the point is to keep encouraging those two aspects to have come together
again
and to find some way to enjoy each other's company
thank you very much
i've enjoyed your company today which is dead