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Continuity of Consciousness and Community
Seminar_The_Gate_of_the_Moment
The talk explores the reconceptualization of consciousness and the idea of "alaya-vijnana" or storehouse consciousness, contrasting it with Freud's unconscious. It delves into the theme of relationships and communities as shared visions that mature over time, emphasizing the importance of continued practice and discussion to evolve these connections. The discussion also touches on the concept of Sangha as a continuation of being and examines philosophical insights about time, continuity, and presence, emphasizing the critical role of perception and awareness in spiritual practice.
- Alaya-vijnana: Described as the "storehouse consciousness", the speaker contrasts it with Freud’s concept of the unconscious, noting differences in their nature and role in consciousness.
- Freud's Unconscious: Used as a reference point to discuss traditional psychological and spiritual interpretations of consciousness.
- Greek Idea of Friendship: Referenced regarding relationships maturing through shared visions, illustrating how this dynamic can apply to communities like Sangha.
- Bodhisattva Practice: Examined in the context of perceiving individuals as beings who continue, tied to a deeper understanding of relationships and spiritual practice.
- Sangha: Discussed as a community concept that encompasses not only present beings but also those who will continue, emphasizing the continuity of being.
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Now I would like to continue this process of reconceptualization. And I think we can build on or work with the idea of the unconscious of Freud. Now a completely accepted idea. and say that I don't think the alaya-vijnana, which is translated as storehouse or warehouse, is actually a storehouse in the sense that unconsciousness is a storehouse. Ist nicht ein Lagerhaus in dem Sinn, dass das Unbewusste ein Lagerhaus ist? Now maybe I'm already going too much toward the meeting, when do we start, Wednesday or something, with more psychotherapy, emphasis more on psychotherapy.
[01:11]
But the sense of gates, of the gate of each moment is... Yeah, bringing me in a certain direction. Not just me, but I feel that we're something in any way, some kind of mutual feeling I have here. Now, I like the... Greek idea of friendship, as I understand it. Which is that friendship is that affection which matures through a shared vision. And I think we've been together quite a lot of years, and Giorgio and I too. And I think we could say this is an affection that is rooted in and maturing a shared vision.
[02:33]
And the Sangha is a friendship or affection rooted in maturing a shared vision. And I think in a simple, not so simple, important sense, a marriage when it shifts from, it's most healthy when it shifts from being in love to the maturing of a shared vision. And if that was more clearly understood by many married couples,
[03:35]
I think this transformation would probably work better. And because it does take practice or work to mature a shared vision. It's not just automatic. And with one's friends, too. For example, I have a friend who we certainly have a shared vision. That we mature together even though we don't practice this both practice Zen. And his practice is rooted for historical and personal reasons. in Hinduism.
[05:09]
So there will be some differences in our worldview. And we find it important necessary to now and then really discuss how those differences are evolving in ourselves. And that necessary work is what then also allows the similarities to evolve and inform each other. And we clearly learn from each other. We've been doing this about the same number of years and so forth. Sophia, excuse me, I don't talk about her because I miss her.
[06:16]
I don't talk about her because I love her. I'm only talking about her because she's a big part of my informational situation. But she the other day said to that her doll was going to live longer than she does. So she said, this doll will belong to some other little girl. Sort of like, I have to take care of this doll so that it lives longer than me, that someone else can have it. But that's really that simple kind of philosophical insight that three-year-olds are often quite philosophical. It's also at the root of what Sangha is about.
[07:49]
Sangha also means those who continue. To recognize that the fullness of being includes not only all beings, but the sense of those who continue being. The sense of Sangha is not just those who, not all beings of the present, but those who will continue being. What do I mean by being? Well,
[08:49]
What struck me as a good example is a while ago Marie-Louise and I got lost in a forest like this. And it was summer outside and we had short sleeves. And the deeper we got into the forest... colder gut and it actually started to hail. And we were freezing. And there were none of those little signs which say eight kilometers to such and such a village which you don't know the name of. There were the words. There weren't. A nameless, what village? We were hoping for such a sign. for a sign of being.
[10:08]
I passed this, you know, in America, they have all these little churches which look alike. And when Marie Louise first went to America with me, After seeing almost identical churches in several villages, she said, do you Americans buy your churches from catalogs too? Anyway, in front of one of these churches, they put these signs out and they say usually stupid things, you know, for some kind of witticism. They're like movie marquees, which you can change the letters.
[11:14]
Yeah. You're a good team here. And anyway, this one said, if you are waiting for a sign from God, this is it. Doesn't sound like you have to translate that. So I was waiting for a sign. Goreville, eight kilometers. But then someone appeared on the path. And I didn't think... I don't like that kind of person.
[12:18]
That's not the kind of person I take seriously. I thought, a being. Rescued, saved. Now why don't I feel that way when I see anyone? I think that's not a simple question. What prevents me from seeing each person I meet in that way? If you can answer that question or experience the answer to that question, you're at the center of bodhisattva practice. And that sense of being is also the sense of the fullness of being is those who continue. So, because that person who walks out of the forest is one of those who continue.
[13:38]
We can feel it if we imagine some horrible bomb that, these things do happen, that blows up most of a culture, you think, All those things aren't continued. People don't continue, etc. No. And we may think, oh, those are kind of big philosophical questions that are kind of interesting, but don't have much to do with us. But actually when there's any crisis or stress or calamity, a big storm, those are the things we feel most deeply. So they're actually more deeply present in us, but also hidden.
[14:42]
Why are they hidden? Why is the fullness of being that we live concealed from us? Or is not always apparent? Well, this is also... What gate opens us to the fullness of being? Yeah, I think that's... That's a good time to take a break maybe.
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