So if you're actually actually doing it, teach your book yourself, because then we have translations. the Japanese congregation, Sokochi.

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It's so cozy. except when he wasn't around. But little by little, people started congregating around him. And I've often said that Suzuki Roshi did not start Zen Center. Suzuki Roshi just was.

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And people gathered around him, and it was his students that created Zen Center. And Suzuki Roshi was like the center I think we can all see that. He was such an unusual person.

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I'm going to go watch somebody who wants that. Unless it's Jay Godfrey Jr. other. Suzuki Rokichi, I could see Suzuki Rokichi very clearly there, but he was not attached, although his personality was darkly Japanese. He crossed the boundary. I think that the disciples of secularism have a different way.

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experience them differently and think of them differently. of Hiroshi was the nucleus of this cactus.

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And I remember when he died, he died in this building at the first period, just around the first period of Zazen. And so it's a shame. So I think he planned it that way. Whether he did or not, it was great. I wrote some things down here. I don't think that's a good idea in America.

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So we mix it up, which is the way it is sort of today, kind of mixed up. So we decided that we'd buy it and built it.

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It was a big deal. Yeah, so my question is very simple.

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Richard, would you like to start? some kind of pottery that was made for export.

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I can't agree. bridge the gap, in a sense. And also because Buddhism was dying out in Japan in a vital way, he wanted to show us something vital, to transmit something vital to us that he felt was the most vital thing. So I think that's what happened. as far as you go.

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Did you have anything you wanted to say on this point? That's what I had started, you know, let's go in

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So, that's my consensus. I will repeat the questions so they get on the tape here. Just to paraphrase.

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Well, I think we each of us may have a different perspective. So, you know, we have been working with Soda Shu, Shuma Cho, trying to create relationships. In some ways yes, in some ways not, but I would say that underneath, invisibly, something is happening. Visibly, it's hard to see, but I would say subterraneously, something is happening. which is tangible.

[56:38]

I was trying to imagine what sin would look like. That's the thing.

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Japanese time. story.

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Do you have more you wanted to say? And I think what happened to Rensselaer was very special and very, very subtle, and it wasn't something easy for us to understand.

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Suzuki Roshi was in an anti-nuclear walk in the 50s because that fishing boat from Yazoo got all the radiation. Roasting! were more vocal, but they weren't opposed.

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It wasn't like anything we would do here. It's sort of like wars we have here, and we're sort of against them, but we don't want our country to lose. You know what I mean? Anyway, the whole

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