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there are some more seats as still chairs especially there's know some of the front row

well am i think we usually do i usually do in the reeves do some kind of movement thing now is that sort of usual
ah talk now
i like to get up
the

thank you

can mean
i'm going to chalk next
the
so first arrived in or i would i do our let you know that my movies premier in february eleventh at the berlin film festival
jason of you want to fly over
for the premier
well in english it's gonna be called how to cook your life
i don't know what it's called in german
bedtime as there's german filmmaker doris jury decided i'm asked if i would be willing to make a movie on zen master duggan's instructions to the cook
and i said sure i know and am so we started in austria and and we found in ice cube and i said as a fact can we be in austria and during lectures on duggan's instructions to the cook and cooking classes and she said oh well i live in munich it's a two hour drive
that's easy we can come down for that and from me there
and then they also came over here and found it as her any green gouging
sherbrooke filmed one of my neighbors in fairfax who the know hasn't shopped for groceries for it or more than two years because she is
no
this visits day
has you covered the
the convenience kitchen or something anyways otherwise known as dumpsters but has a better word for it
and their house you know that's kind of run down a bit it's called taj mahal

so but it's hard to know who all is gonna find the end up in the movie because i haven't and i haven't seen any of it but they yeah they took about sixty hours of film and turned into a ninety five minute intervals stone
i haven't seen any of it so i haven't seen
gifts and you're really good on camera and and she was telling me that so much a is it just turns to all the guys there is
so they relax man anyway
so
from well where the test or a bread book was the first but the more recent one was tomato blessings and railway stations and which is out of print now and i've got the right specs and i'm going to rewrite it as goggins instructions to the cook and sell it again
that'll teach those publishers to give up on my book
a show them and now we're all those people who didn't want a reprinted in all this other purpose you did my reprinted yeah they'll pay now that guy
yeah
which

it's strange i just was going i'm living my life and suddenly i'm in the movie
it is it's is very strange in know i didn't do anything
well we'll see you know it's it depends on its it needs to get a distributor noted come here
but it might come in a like to marine yeah maybe you know even if it didn't have a distributor maybe it can come to the nobel a film festival or something
they say

so i thought i talk with your little bit tonight about duggan's instructions to the cook since its on my mind then
i'm one of the things and one of the first things that does and mr durkan says and you know them as jurgen lived in the thirteenth century
and t i was japanese and then he in his early twenties went to china to studies an
kanda was in china for four years and then came back to japan and he's considered to be the founder what's known as the soto's and scrub of japanese then
the one that we don't do that doesn't do co steady and are particularly you know what is the sound of one hand clapping now are better destructive
i re read recently john whelan ben veterans than the veterans brooke you know he was dodging years ago he did a book on the empty mirror and another one glimpse of nothingness and they were quite popular back in the sixties or seventies and
more recently he was a little book called after then
and there it's a it's a charming and yet strange that a brook and but it starts out cons are overrated
but then the next sentences
a clerk at the store where he was shot and used to say
even knowing it so he was he was intent on saving you know always was a curve
hutch that so my practice isn't that good
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but em you know for the a fruit from my trees i did that
you know i have a three apple trees and to pear trees and the three aperture is especially this year almost every apple has whatever is causing mods or something isn't it i tried putting out this and in our traps for the company mas
but it as it last spring in their just rain and in an so
i would have had to put the traps out at different times of the chaps are still good when the cop and knowing you have to if you studied about these things you know just when the kadima to come in you put the trips out of the right time but so all my apples have been accredited that i'm using them on i'm choosing them and i've been cutting out the mods partner just talk to her friends she
he said oh when i was growing up we just put the whole apple into the choosers
if you give them more protein and you know whatever that way and very flavorful
i'm so i'm endeavoring notes have endeavoured years are the fruit from my trees
which is in your beds come into my life center
even though i can't save all the in the supermarkets
i'm but it's interesting you know some a some supermarkets
i think for instance no good earth
ah if i'm not mistaken you know from time to time or maybe a databases know they sent to
to whoever

this is not know this is about business
so let's toss it and that's that that anybody have it and let's lock up the dumpsters so that nobody can get at them and cetera and that's not and that's not take the food any place that they could use it and they'd be willing to take it let's not do that let's not do any of that it's gotta go to waste because that's business bottom line
so it's interesting yeah
i'm trying
i'm around
for her
i

but this is this is if this is a perfect example of did you know what she said she said i use a lot of paper towels rate too many paper towels and i've been trying for years to use your paper towels and it seems like if i'm using as many paper towels it it can't be like i consider them that precious in arm
just using the the tossing them
and but this is a good example of well yeah this is something you can study what would be in our study the way to use your paper down so it's a it's a steady you know it so it's you you arouse your capacity to find the way to do this to use for your baby down
and then so you can you can try various things no i don't know i i used and in those punches
and
there's various things about sponges you know i've studied these things
goodreads i i have some sponges that are only for the disease or some sledges for the floor
and they're in different places and then when i used suspended from the sink or the other sponges when i'm done i rang them out
when you come to my house i explain this to
i'm sorry to say
and because you know
no one in the people don't use fences when you give to their house many with his friends with scrapping reading this thinking you have to pick up a and read spends in his car cardinals are wed and them if it's cold and i were like that if as it's known to
and the no i don't want to use that sponge either so my sponges i've dragged them out and and sometimes i set them in the window and his son
you know so i study these things you know
and similarly know i steadied like
plastic bags
can i probably by the time i die i will if i will have saved you know thirty thousand plastic bags
twenty thirty thousand and plastic bags because i know i think fit vigour estimate you know a no minimum in our ten plastic bags a wig that's five hundred plastic bags a year that's five thousand every ten years
i don't know you know whatever i don't know the mathematics in a way you know

the discovery like this huge grocery bag of yeah we've taken the plastic bags and sort of just stuffed them in there you can't he can't walk around like with some huge trash bag of plastic bags around the grocery store you know so i have a little plastic bag and it's further budget and so
i know in namibia stupid you know
well i figure and b m you know maybe economically it doesn't even make sense i'm using you know water and you know i'm washing the things so that's energy you know but i'm not it's not like oil exactly the way that you know manufacture plastic bags and but you know most day in our paper
who is it just toss them
i guess is a plastic bag why would you know it just toss it
and that's but that's again in or because you know this is about and money
and and that it becomes about money rather than know how do you treat something you know as though it's worth something so has been value
sewing i take this sponge genuine i'm down with this bunch i wring it out as innocuous i studied this
no
and to me it's sort of like a no brainer
no ring out this sponge when you're done
but i don't know how otherwise how do you clean up been know well you take paper jazzy just something else
and i'd been in people's houses you know where i mean it again even years ago
carlson his house and you know they say well reds and i say well in a one and a cooker or something for you but don't have a nine
they don't have a pet

how even if the knew he'd never coming for you don't have a added
hey you get the study where do i need you know how do i know him
that with a new role to play to win something else the work of guiding you figure things out as you grow live
and you know part of this stooges than am
that's partly
you know are certainly our tendency and this is true like just organisms
gregory bateson for instance in ecology of the mind or whatever it's called run of his books you know organisms very simply are designed to maintain and perpetuate themselves
so of the main features of organisms
and you know and a and so there's nothing wrong with you know perpetuating yourself in a sort of you know as a been it's perpetuating this self
the problem right
and that's because in art the sense of self is the fat to the house and the fact that he does
and which ones are you
when you identify with you as year and then how do you keep the receive benefits you and gave it to identify and the use docker than five i have we got her that
when i think we'd be preserved audiences are designed to prevent your prevent third preventing to so close as to take in
step in the world
they are taking in enough food and also hiking experience then you turn that into year
how'd you get to the road taken in the world and during the year and continued to live
it turns out that and the whole you know where americans with that this
so we can to stay in the area of our expertise and what we already know how to use and we're not going to move into the air will be found them at zero
find out how to do something we got no idea
and then we went to like
you know the proper the first is everything was going to have nobody wants to dive right
matt how are you gonna learn to do something they don't know how to do
where you want to stick to doing things the way boys tend them
so you're not gonna learn anything how to do something if you stick to doing things the way boys then they'd be going to have to try out some things that might work in my network and in a find the way to do something that you didn't know how to do
and so you give yourself that opportunity it's important to give yourself that opportunity to find out how to do something that you don't know how to do and be willing to have that kind of a problem or difficult in their life
and you know you i'll do that by showing up here and you know meditating because nobody knows how to do this need you know i not do this
so this already is doing something then you can sort of think you know what you're doing
and it works for a while and then some point it doesn't fit the
i am it's about eight o'clock so we're going to call an end to the evening and thank you so much for being here in ah
as many you know i like chatting the silver pounds