Yeah, yesterday several times it came up about the morality of shipping things around the world. And I certainly understand that. I don't know what we can do about it. As Mathieu pointed out, even local wood we might use is actually Siberia or someplace. But for a long time, I wouldn't fly, for instance, because I thought it was too polluting to fly. And if I'm in Europe, I always take trains.

[01:01]

I don't fly. Though I know some of you flew to get here. I'm glad you did, actually. And I flew to get here. Oh, well. So much for my morality. But for example, I won't, for the most part, I won't eat sushi. Sushi. Sushi, yeah. Because they're stripping the oceans to supply restaurants with sushi. In Japan, sushi is very kind of late night drinking food for men. Because live sushi, often the fish is actually alive on the sushi.

[02:03]

And women aren't supposed to be involved in that. But of course, I mean in people's houses they have sushi for celebrations. But still it's not like America and Europe where every Japanese restaurant is a sushi restaurant. So let's go back to this very moment. One tool you can use is the simple and classic phrase in Zen, just this.

[03:17]

And just, you know, it's an English word which means only or exactly. And this means near, a near object. But when you put them together, they have a feel of their usual English words, the English meaning. They have a feel of their usual condition. But if they become something you repeat, if you bring each particular to noticing with a K, then just this takes the this out of this.

[04:29]

It's no longer a thing. It's now a perception. So you say, just this. It takes the thingness, the entityness out of an object. And it makes it a percept. Yeah, so... And so if you get in the habit of trying to notice appearance, notice a dharma. Our cooks have returned. And you can do that, establishing a dharma with just this.

[05:54]

And somehow the just this stops the world for a moment. just this becomes not a description but a sensorial command that stops the world from just this, nothing else. And stopping the world for a moment You can get off the world for a moment. You get off and absorb the world. The world disappears into your non-self. And that's called wisdom body or manjushri or something like that when association baggage you cut off and really if you use this sensorial command just this the the the

[07:09]

associations are kind of gone. There's nothing but just this. And you've experienced the absence of associations. And the absence of associations is one of the definitions. And the absence of association is one of the definitions of emptiness. You don't experience the association, you experience the absence of association. And it can feel like a tremendous relief. Free in the world suddenly. And as a sensorial command. Just this stops the world. But you can also get on the world at that moment.

[08:38]

Get on the world as it opens from you. And that opening from you is associated with avalokiteshvara and compassion. You feel the world as mutual and inclusive. Again, if we look at Dogen's statement, the entire world in the ten directions is the true human body. And the next sentence is, when the Dharma wheel turns, and we can take the meaning of when the Dharma wheel turns to be, for example, when you start practicing the five Dharmas.

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When you begin to notice the world through the marks, the signs of the five Dharmas. And then he says the true human body extends throughout space and throughout time. This is another example of trying to relate to interdependence, or interindependence, as not oneness, but allness. How do we relate to the allness of the world? Because it's not subsumed into one.

[11:05]

It remains all. But all is interdependent. And Dogen would say, you engage the allness as interdependence. When you turn the wheel of the Dharma. When you engage the world as dharmas. And it's a kind of It's rather impractical, I mean maybe it doesn't seem practical to imagine that you're engaging the whole world through turning the wheel of Dharma.

[12:31]

Through practicing, through knowing, through engaging. the world through the five dharmas, yet something happens if you take this view, if you take this wisdom view, that when you engage, when you're in the midst of immediacy, the whole world is somehow also present and when you live with that feeling and you incubate that feeling and you incubate that feeling allow the experience to accumulate.

[13:35]

It's a kind of real environmental responsibility, feeling of responsibility, of being part of the world actualizing itself. Yeah. So it's surprising. It doesn't sound practical, but it's a great practice. And it begins to affect you if you feel that on each circumstance. And that's what Dogen's trying to convey. when he says the entire world in ten directions is the true human body.

[14:50]

Now since so many of you have decided that the snow or your planes and your trains are arriving hopefully on time And you have to leave soon. My translator is going to go away. You don't think it's worth crying about. You don't know how dependent I am on a translator. So I think it's exactly noon. It's a good time to stop. I mean, I like to be on time. Was that a comment? Just an expression of joy. A phenomenal covering. Anybody want to say something?

[16:04]

Yes? I just have one question. How we can coordinate the results of our group work yesterday, whether this is of interest to anyone? We sort of thought we'd talk about it, which we don't have to do. You mean what you talked about during the... Our suggestions? Yeah, well, suggest a way. Now you've got me. And I have a conveyor belt of translators. If we leave we just move Nicole into place and if Nicole leaves we just move you into place. If we're really desperate we move Lenny into place. So do you have something you want to bring up?

[17:14]

Yeah, I just wanted to ask whether we can have an easy way of correlating. Well, I don't know. I mean, one way is just people can just tell me what they think about it. But what I will do, because I'm going back to the United States on day after tomorrow, I think. And isn't that right, day after tomorrow? I will hear also from Lenny and Jonas and Mathieu, what they think, for instance, a stairway would cost. I've just heard that Plummer thinks bathrooms would cost $15,000 apiece, 15,000 euro apiece. Excuse me, which bathroom?

[18:19]

Any bathroom. Any bathroom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I need to know what... Mathieu thinks we could put a stairway to the lower floor, where it's a good place to put bathrooms, for less than 10,000 Euro. And so, I mean, I think we're going to have various possibilities. If we're going to use the building, we need toilets and baths. Pretty good to have a stairway to that other building down there. It's like a separate building now. And then I would write something to everyone. And say, here are the possibilities and here's the absolute necessities which we ought to do and the rest we'll wing it.

[19:46]

We'll wing it and play it by ear and make do. Wing it means... No, wing it. Wing it means... We just try it. Yeah. I don't know where it comes from. I guess it comes from pilots who would go up without gasoline with a wing and a prayer. And I'm already losing the spouse of the translator. Yeah. And the brother of... I'm so glad you came. No one else is allowed to leave.

[20:56]

Anyway, so I will try to write something and say what the minimum I think we need to do to have some momentum, moment by moment, momentum to the 90-day practice period. And then we'll try to figure out. I mean, we don't have a system of voting. We don't know who is a member and who is not a member and who should vote, who shouldn't vote. So we have to kind of... It's all right. Yeah, ah, good now. Good notice. Yeah. So, but I think we tend to get feedback which suggests that, yes, this is a good idea, this is not.

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And of course, in the end, the feedback is called euros. If we say we can only do this if we have 10,000 euro and we get eight, well, And we all go out to dinner. All right. And Lenny, thank you so much for coming. Thank you. All this way. Not you.

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