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Transcending Joys Through Tantric Bliss

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The talk delves into the exploration of four types of joy derived from tantric practices associated with the subtle body. The discussion distinguishes these joys—ordinary joy, supreme joy, transcendent joy, and co-emergent joy—each arising from specific spiritual practices and their associated body zones, aimed at overcoming dualistic thinking and attachment. The final accomplishment of the fourth joy signifies a state free of faults due to its transcendental nature.

  • Reference to Eight Worldly Dhammas: The talk refers to these as objects to be overcome, linking their cessation with the realization of inner joys, denoting a process of spiritual purification and non-dualistic insight.
  • Four Empowerments: These are discussed in relation to the four joys, where the third and fourth empowerments specifically address transcending worldly desires to achieve profound wisdom.
  • Waves of Enjoyment: This term refers to initial practices focusing on generating bliss through meditation, particularly significant for beginners embarking on this path of spiritual development.

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to line four. So now, as for the first of those, the joy, having viewed the form to the mayor's embracing and kissing, and those experiences are generate joy. So now all this is under the heading of the joy's independence on both the body and mind. So the first joy was just described. The second which is the supreme joy. How is that generated? That is generated at the time of the meeting of the two organs, the two sexual organs.

[01:03]

Uh-huh. Uh, then the new path is, uh, the water, [...] the water. You jumped up. Hold on. So, and then at the time of the rubbing of the organs, what is generated is the transcendent joy. So at the time of the gathering of the four kisses, that is the time of the generation of the co-emergent joy?

[02:20]

So the four kisses are kissing of the vajra and the lotus, kissing of the red and white elements, the kissing of the two airs, and the kissing of the veins of the vajra and the lotus, the veins of the central channel at the vajra and the lotus. So the second one was the... Yeah. The second one was concerning the places. So this is divided into two parts. There's those joys which correspond to the outer places and those joys which correspond to the inner places. So there's the generation of bliss in one place of the body and that's called just joy.

[03:36]

And then there's the kind of generation of most of your body experiences joy and that's the supreme joy. and then there's the generation at all parts of your body pervading your entire body and that's the transcendent joy and then there's the generation pervading all of entities of appearance. So basically the joy pervades even beyond your body but to all entities of appearance and that's the co-emergent joy. And these are again associated with the outer places. So then as for the

[04:50]

correspondence with the inner places from the crown until the throat so again remember this is with the third empowerment it's associated with the the upward from the up descending down so from the from the crown until the throat is the joy And then from the throat until the heart is the supreme joy. And then from the heart until the navel is the transcendent joy. So then from the navel until the secret place is the co-emergent joy. No, the correspondence of the four joys with the objects... Oh, no, sorry.

[05:53]

Yeah, the correspondence with the objects to be abandoned. So there are the eight worldly concerns, or the eight worldly dhammas, and there's the stopping of the gradual stopping of the rough concepts of apprehension, sorry, the apprehender and the object of apprehended, or sometimes it's just translated as the rough concepts of dualistic thinking. And that, abandoning that, Those objects of abandonment correspond to joy. And then the cessation stage of the rough cessation level or stage of the rough concepts of self is the supreme joy.

[07:08]

So, and the cessation of concepts of attachment to the mudra is the transcendent joy. So then the cessation of concepts of the three prior joys And so there's the four joys which correspond to one's own essence. So there's... the kind of lesser or smaller experience of bliss and that's joy.

[08:17]

That corresponds to joy. And then there's the greater bliss associated with the blazing and that's the supreme joy. And then there's the non-conceptual bliss which is the transcendent joy. And then there's the non-duality of bliss and emptiness, and that is the co-emergent joy. ... [...]

[09:31]

Okay, so now as for this, together with the view of the fourth entitlement, both of those, because of the craving... ...conditioned by Influenced by craving. So, let's take a step back. So, in both the third and the fourth empowerments, they are associated with four joys. Each of them, respectively, is four joys. And in each of those three joys, In both this third and the practices of the view of the fourth empowerment, the first three are influenced or compounded by or in some sense defiled by craving.

[10:42]

And because of that, they are faulty. Faulty views. So if one becomes habituated to the primordial wisdom of the fourth joy, the co-emergent joy, then because one reaches that final accomplishment of the primordial wisdom, which is super mundane, which transcends this world, then it is said that there is no fault, that that fourth joy is faultless.

[11:55]

Okay, so maybe you go, well, what? That sounds pretty good. What's the method for generating that? The method for generating the unborn primordial wisdom of the faultless co-emergent is as follows. So first, having performed the preliminaries of preliminary limbs of concentration, those nine preliminary limbs, then individual kind of meddling intelligence or faculties, if they have obtained some sort of power over the wind, then having dependent on the entering into union at the lower doors, then they meditate on bliss.

[13:13]

So this is describing what's the method for actually generating the co-emergent, fourth co-emergent joy. And for those, even with liberating faculty, so first, they perform the plenaries of concentration, which are kind of similar to where religion is said in some cult posture and so forth. That's number one. And then number two, they're, well, they have liberating faculties. Number three, they have attained some control over the winds. And then when those are fulfilled, then at the time, through depending on entering into union, then entering into union of what? The lower doors, right? The lower portals, then they meditate on bliss.

[14:19]

So this is the experience of the fourth joist. The fourth of the joist that we've been talking about. This kind of person, this person is qualified, this kind of particular person. The first person is like that kind of person, right? Then the second person is like that kind of person. Right. Right. Right. So now as for the beginner who hasn't obtained any kind of mastery or control over the winds then for that beginner one meditates on the bliss which arises independence on the upper door and that is the

[15:40]

What's known as the Waves of Enjoyment, which is a technical kind of laundry research. It refers to a particular practice. And that's the way they practice at the beginning. The Waves of Enjoyment. Waves of Enjoyment is kind of a, you know, you screw some up there. You know, there are some things on there. Shut up there. Yeah, there are some things, feelings of that. When Norik was holding his hand, is that what are you doing this? No, this particular language is... Did you really love me? I heard... No, it's a lot of listening. It's a... Basically, it's a... It's a Tibetan style. It's a kind of culture style. It's a dummy joy. Dummy joy. It's supporting your articulate... Articulate. to supporting me when you're making a speech or kind of profound thing.

[16:43]

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