The other question is, are there in Buddhism psychiatric diseases and how are they dealt with? Okay, I... I think we should have lunch soon. I'd like to just say a couple things. But I'd also just... Buddhism has no psychology. Strictly speaking, Buddhism is a mindology, a study of how the mind functions. And so can be quite compatible with psychology which deals with our life as story. Yeah, but I don't think, you know, that's a big topic.

[01:13]

I meet with a group of about 25 Austrian psychotherapists every year for four or five days for five or six years now trying to resolve, think through these things. Now, let me just say, let me just look at the word intuition for you. It means, it's defined in the dictionary as an insight that comes... free of rational process. Or it's defined as an immediate cognition. But at least in the original language, I mean in the etymology, it means to contemplate or to look. So I would like to say that intuition is a rational thought.

[02:27]

But it's not a linear process. It's a tangential process. Tangential thinking. Different levels of thinking are going on simultaneously. It's rational. It's just thinking outside your thinking. Dogen says, think non-thinking. And this is usually understood by Western Zen people and Japanese, other Zen people, as don't think. It doesn't at all mean don't think. It means think non-thinking. Now we could call non-thinking field thinking or tangential thinking. So mindfulness again is to bring various things into the presence of mind to hold them in your mind and

[03:57]

but not to think in a linear way about it. Again, you must understand that mind is not nothing. When you're not thinking, you're not in some kind of empty space. There's no such thing as empty space. Space connects. doesn't just separate. Just working with this, that space connects as well as separates, can give you some kind of new feeling of how we connect. I mean a lot of our contemporary science is shaped by the idea that space is empty.

[05:22]

So it's best to think of mind as a kind of liquid. And if you take a bunch of objects and you put them in water, they don't touch each other, something happens. If you put them in another kind of liquid, something happens. If you turn the heat up under the liquid, something happens So when you take a number of things, you, feelings, vocation, profession, and you put them in the liquid of mind, you may think, I have to now think about these things and figure it out, because that's not correct.

[06:29]

You think that nothing's happening unless I do something. It's not true. Non-doing... is an idea in a culture in which there's no such thing as non-doing. There is only doing. But sometimes you can allow something bigger than yourself to do the doing. Now, we have this idea of God's grace or something. Or natural or intuition. But Ramakrishna... His way he expresses it is being a Hindu.

[07:51]

Unfurl your sail in God's grace. We would say something like, unfurl your sail in the golden breeze. That's a phrase from a poem. So if you have these various things you want to do, When you hold them in mind, which is called mindfulness, you hold them in mind something good. There are rational processes going on, don't have to be linear. And the more you have a sense of holding that mind, which doesn't have to think in a linear way,

[08:55]

All of your thinking is going to be intuitive. And you're going to feel it becomes much easier to make decisions. Because... I've said enough. I hope I made something. I don't hear a roar of a greenhead. I hope I heard a little bit. I haven't heard any growling of approval yet, but I hope I made it a little bit clear. Yes, please. Not only the radio,

[10:06]

Maybe it's not as bad as I thought. I may have a misunderstanding of Zazen. I probably tend to lose myself, but isn't there also, or could there be the possibility of setting something or putting something in mind or having something in mind as a sort of doing something without doing something? Not just counting the breath. That's exactly right. That's not all jasin is, but that's one of the main things. That's one of the main misunderstandings. To hold something in mind for basic practice. But not to think about it. This is the difference to just washing your breath. Watching your breath establishes, weaves together body and mind.

[11:26]

Once you've woven together a mind body, then that mind body holds things in mind. And then the sewing of counting your breath becomes something different. It's not like when I'm counting my breath, another pin appears, but I don't have to put it away, I have to count my breath.

[12:33]

But basic practice in Zen is uncorrected mind. And the emphasis on uncorrected mind is one of the things that makes... is one of its... unique qualities in the whole Buddhist schema. And that's because Zen assumed that each person's enlightenment is different. Zen emphasizes not unity or oneness, but timelessness or infinity. So it's actually quite similar to chaos theory in many ways.

[13:43]

We really don't know what's going to happen in the West. The conditions of practice brought together with Western culture, etc., might be a new kind of Buddhism that arises not by being Americanized or Westernized, And we really don't know what will happen if all these Buddhist elements and practices are brought here in the West. And what will come out of it. And not that it's just Americanized or Westernized Buddhism. Okay, it's 12.30. So it's half past one. Almost. And so we would like an hour and a half or two hours. Yes, what do we want? One and a half, two hours? One and a half Anybody want two? Okay One and a half I'm on time So we come back at two We're back at two And I don't know how long we'll go But four or five, something like that I don't know how long, four or five, how long we'll do Five?

[14:53]

I know I know Okay, so, please, this afternoon we'll do whatever you want to do.

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