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The Four Brahmaviharas (The Four Immeasurable Minds)
The talk presents the Four Brahmaviharas—love, compassion, joy, and equanimity—as interdependent practices that cultivate connection, resilience, and action free from hatred. It emphasizes that love requires attention to impact as well as intention, and that metta supports engaged responses to suffering and injustice without fixation on outcomes.
Texts and works referenced
- The Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching — Thich Nhat Hanh. Frames the four qualities as practices for nourishing connection; its account of love stresses understanding others’ needs and the effects of one’s actions.
- The Metta Sutta — traditional Buddhist discourse. Chanted in the community, it offers wishes for beings’ safety and happiness and supports the talk’s emphasis on goodwill and letting go of results.
- “Metta Meditation and Men in Meditation” — Mushim Patricia Ikeda. Discusses metta as disciplined cultivation rather than a remedy for structural injustice, and connects it with courageous nonviolence.
- Article on the Brahmaviharas — Gil Fronsdal. Describes how the four qualities inform responses to hostility, suffering, others’ happiness, and situations beyond one’s ability to help.
- Metta Prayer — Maylie Scott. Integrates goodwill, bodily awareness, compassion, justice, and persistence independent of outcomes.
- Nonviolent Communication — model associated with Marshall Rosenberg. Raised in discussion as a complementary method for identifying underlying needs and communicating more clearly.
- Internal Family Systems — therapeutic model associated with Richard C. Schwartz. Mentioned in discussion of relating compassionately to ego and inner parts without letting them control one’s actions.
Other figures referred to
- Martin Luther King Jr. Cited as an example of resilience and “aggressive nonviolence” grounded in love.
- Avalokiteshvara. The bodhisattva’s thousand hands and eyes are invoked as an image of compassionate readiness to respond.
- Sojin. Recalled as teaching that love is central to Zen practice and as describing it as a steady warmth shared by all.
AI Suggested Title: Love Without Hatred in Action
This lecture's topic is the Four Brahmaviharas, or the Four Unmeasurable Minds. And I'm very happy to be talking about this. I can't say that although we are engaged in this practice, and we chanted the Medha Sutta earlier this morning, which is imbued with the spirit of of this practice. I can't say that I've concentrated on it that much, even though every time I recite the Menta Prayer, which is a creation of May Lee Scott, who chant once a week, I feel really great. I'm really happy to kind of explore this a little further.
[01:02]
The practice of the four measurable minds is a very powerful practice for deepening and extending universal love, goodwill, and joyfulness to self and others, and hope for positive outcomes for all beings. And so, I'm remembering that once someone asked Sojin, as his story goes, he may have said this several times, probably some of you have heard this, that someone asked him, why don't we ever talk about love? And he said, Well, that's what we always talk about. That's the only thing we're talking about here. And I thought, yeah. But now that I've looked into this a little further, I'm feeling there's a really deep and fundamental connection between our practices articulated through the Zen tradition and these four
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qualities of universal love and goodwill that are now what I feel are a basic component of our practice. These are love or metta, compassion or karuna, joy in Sanskrit, and equanimity and peksha. And they originally practiced and formulated prior to the time of the Buddha, but then they became part of Buddhist teaching in the Pali tradition. And I found just the name of this referring to this practice. immeasurable minds to have kind of a deep resonance with our thoughts about the Mahayana concepts of Avila Kiteshvara, her thousand hands and eyes, and the Bodhisattva vow to awaken with all beings.
[03:49]
Anyway, so, Love. In our sort of reference text for this practice period, which I'm holding up here, by Thich Nhat Hanh, The Heart of Buddha's Teaching. He talks about each one of these. And these four qualities are all naturally occurring qualities of the human heart available to everyone. Practice is fundamentally a means to nourish self-connection and connection with others and overcome hindrances. Sometimes this is known as the four faces of love. And each of these is appropriate to a specific circumstance and are interdependent in function with and supportive of the others.
[04:58]
So these qualities of the four Brahmapiharas speak to the quality of our connection with ourselves and with others. Brahmapihara means the abode of Brahma. Bihara meaning abode and Brahma meaning the god Brahma. So last week, Hosan spoke about the three marks of existence and how interpretation of traditional teachings like that can make pivot on whether engaging with them promotes self-connection and connection with others or not. The three marks.
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impermanence, not self, and either suffering or nirvana, you can land either on suffering or nirvana depending on whether or not, whether or not mentha is practiced. So, Thich Nhat Hanh goes on to just and talks about each one of the four Brahma Viharas. He starts with love, which is normally often formulated as or stated as loving kindness. And what I really admire about Thich Nhat Hanh is his ability to simply decide whether or not he's going to use a word or he's going to redefine it. in his telling of this, love is just love.
[07:18]
And in fact, he wishes that it were not qualifiable. He sort of says that love is you know, in our normal usage that it's become a sick word that needs to be reinstated in its glory. So I'll accept that. But he also says quite clearly again and again that love, what he calls true love, must take into account not only your intention, but also the results, the impact of what you choose to do. That deep understanding is really important as part of any expression of love.
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What is it that the person really wants and needs? Your beloved. Without that, love is weakish. and not very consequential. Compassion, the next one, compassion, eruna, literally means to, compassion means to suffer with. But in fact, it's probably, in my view, something more like empathy or as meeting sitting with the person, really taking in where they're at as yourself. Not so much as a kind of merging, but meeting you exactly where you are so you know you're not alone.
[09:26]
The kind of not two, not one sort of presence. The next Bihara is joy. And we're often usually rendered as sympathetic joy. We're rejoicing at another's happiness. But again, Thich Nhat Hanh kind of cuts the chase and says, joy is, you know, not something to slice and dice, to say one person you're happy at someone else's joy. Joy just fills the whole room. And the fourth is equanimity or even-mindedness. Again, has the quality of not two, not one. And equanimity supports love.
[10:28]
Sojan used to talk about, when he talked about love, We talk about it as like a small fire that warms everyone in the room, not as a raging blaze, not as a dying ember. It's something that gives light and warmth to everyone. So equanimity is valuable. the sort of support of the other Biharas, for instance, in compassion, with equanimity, we can be present with someone else's deep pain without being overwhelmed by it. Likewise with joy. excited at someone else's happiness or sad when that something changes again.
[11:49]
And that goes by the by. So the characteristics of this practice, mental practice, of the four unlimited mind, the four immeasurable minds, There's a kind of boundless quality to it and a quality of no gaining mind. I'm not going to get something out of this. It's opened up into boundlessness. So in the spirit of that, when we practice this practice, we just plunge in, not trying to measure it. It's immeasurable. No judgment. Not stimulating small mind or fear, which blocks creative collaboration.
[12:51]
And as I mentioned before, this practice is included in our liturgy. We just chanted the Metta Sutta. The sitta includes both a wish for positive outcomes and also freedom from negative states of mind. And this creates resilience. This creates resilience when you are dealing with life's challenges. And I'd like to think of Dr. Martin Luther King as persisting in an endeavor that can be only accomplished by love. And the example of his resilience is deeply encouraging. I'll come back to that in a little bit. So also another point of resonance between the poor and measurables and the Bodhisattva vows is a kind of
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the possibility of accomplishing them on some level. And have this non-doable nature, pointing to an intention not to be limited to small-mind approach. Now, one of the things I noticed about the metta sutta is that we chant weekly here. is that it's a little different from and also the event of prayers in the same way I noticed that a certain phrase a certain couple of words shows up frequently may I and I was asking myself what is that about um and the translations of the Manta Sutta and saw many of them which didn't include those words.
[15:13]
And I'm kind of asking myself, you know, it seems like may I, as it says in the long end of the Manta Sutta, May all beings be happy. May they be joyous and live in safety. May I not deceive another. May I practice the way with gratitude. May I cultivate an infinite goodwill towards the whole world. That evokes a very powerful moment in this metta sutta. because it's sort of like what's happening, one's making sort of deep self-request.
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This is the point at which you let go of the outcome. And that makes it possible to make an even deeper request and let go of the outcome. The request is offered, it's an offering. You know, may I, may I, when we say may I, we're not being polite. We're making a really deep offering of what it is that matters to us most. What is most powerful in our life. And we only really want it. if it's freely given, and it is given with the joy and happiness that we wish for everyone.
[17:23]
So it's a pivotal word, and we'll come back to that in a little bit. The machine Patricia Ikeda came and spoke at Berkley Center Center about a couple years ago, I guess, about universal goodwill. And I looked up an article of hers about the four brahmadharas and men in meditation. And I'm just going to read something she wrote. Metta meditation is not a magical spell you can cast on the population of the US in order to produce a state of utopian bliss.
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It is not a cure-all for oppression and unequal distribution of power and privilege. Metta meditation does not work like that. It's about being determined, courageous, and patient in purifying your own heart and mind. And then she gives an example, again, referencing Dr. Martin Luther King. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. talked about the need for, quote, aggressive nonviolence. There are times and situations in which we have to show up and throw down, and this may be such a time. Whether I do that from a mind of toxic hatred or from a mind that recognizes that every human being has at some point been my mother, my parent, or guardian. Depends on how well I practice metta. Again, Machine McKee writes,
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What this form of meditation is designed to do, and for many people does very successfully, is to purify us of hatred and ill will. Goodwill is the antidote to ill will. Goodwill or loving kindness is the antidote to ill will, hatred and enmity. So, I'm going to quote from an article by Gil Fransdale that was published on the Inside Meditation website. It says, When the Brahma Viharas become strong, they are much more profound than our responses to a happy puppy. They enable us to keep love at the forefront of all our social encounters with anyone we meet, no matter how challenging.
[20:48]
With loving kindness, we learn how to maintain a healthy goodwill to those who are hostile, to have balanced compassion for those encountering tragic suffering, and to experience a stress-free joy when celebrating others, and to feel an equanimous love for those we cannot help. So Mishim Makeda gives examples of how to practice metta in terms of a wording of the meditation that you might choose to either recite to yourself silently or out loud. And traditionally, this kind of meditation is recommended as
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proceeding in stages, starting with yourself, and then proceeding to a friend, and then maybe a neutral person, and then perhaps more challenging, someone you don't like, and more challenging than that, someone whose activities and speech have been harmful in many ways. and then to the whole world and the whole universe. So you might say something like this after settling down into a quiet place. Goodwill toward yourself. Using these words or others, because you can adapt this however you like, you begin with these wishes of goodwill to yourself. May I be safe. and protected from physical and mental harm.
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May I be strong and healthy and enjoy well-being. May I be peaceful and truly happy. May I live my life with more joy and ease. So sometimes it's said that this is the place to start because it's easy and simplest. Not always, perhaps. If you think of the last time you made a mistake and discovered that the impact of that was something you really didn't like or something that someone else really didn't like, you know, you might have to be careful. felt like you can give yourself empathy or a wish for goodwill.
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Then you turn towards friends, saying to yourself, may you be safe and protected from physical and mental harm. May you be strong and healthy. May you be peaceful and happy. May you live with joy and ease. and then forward towards neutral beings, which is interesting, which is an interesting reflection, which is that are such things actually exist in the world from your own personal point of view, or are there just always some subtle either like or dislike that you have with regard to people you consider neutral? For instance, someone who lives across the street and you don't interact with much. In her thoughts on the extension of metta to enemies, she says, Thich Nhat Hanh said, while it is easy to love the lovable, it may be the unlovable who need our love more.
[25:12]
And so this is a particularly challenging aspect. And there could be a lot of gradations of how challenging it can be. She writes, then to the extent possible, you can extend these good wishes toward people who have caused you more pain, and to institutions and organizations that have caused you, your family and your community, pain and suffering. And she gives the advice, let this develop naturally. Relax and invite yourself to experiment with it. I think that's the spirit to which all of these suggestions are included in all these suggestions implicitly.
[26:21]
That this is something we explore. that it's not a formula for success, but if we use it to open ourselves to possibility of greater love and connection with others, it's really a... So I'm going to close my remarks with reciting the Menta Prayer written by, composed by Maylee Scott, who is a teacher here in years past.
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And then we can have some discussion. Menta Prayer. May I be well, loving, and peaceful. May all beings be well, loving, and peaceful. May I be at ease in my body, feeling the ground beneath my feet and letting my back be long and straight, enjoying breath as it rises and falls and rises. May I know and be intimate with body-mind, whatever is feeling or mood, calm or agitated, tired or energetic, irritated or friendly, breathing in and out, in and out, aware moment by moment of the risings and passions. May I be attentive and gentle towards my own discomfort and suffering. May I be attentive and grateful for my own joy and well-being. May I move towards others freely and with openness.
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May I receive others with sympathy and understanding. May I move towards the suffering of others with peaceful and attentive confidence. May I recall the bodhisattva of compassion, her one thousand hands, her instant readiness for action, each hand with an eye in it, the instinct of knowing what to do. May I continually cultivate the ground of peace for myself and others and persist, mindful and dedicated to this work, independent of results. May I know that my peace and the world's peace are not separate, that our peace in the world is a result of our work for justice. May all beings be well, happy, and peaceful. And it's occurred to me to say that I really believe this has the effect that these commentators attribute to me. that freeing ourselves from reactivity and negative states of mind is a really powerful aid in advancing the Dharma and advancing peace in the world and peace within our own personal context as well.
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So thank you for listening to me and I invite I invite Blake to manage the to and fro going forward here. Thank you, Peter. As usual, good Sangha. Please raise your digital hand. If you'd like to ask a question, you can chat me directly with the word question in front of it. There are 75 people on this Zoom meeting. And my feeling is that you should pretend like everybody's going to get a chance to talk. That's how brief your comments should be. So with that in mind, could you raise your digital hand and please bring forth some ideas or questions. Ed, I invite you to unmute yourself and ask a question.
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I'll be trying to quickly highlight people, spotlight people. Hi. Would you say something about how the meta prayer relates to self-hatred or self-dislike? Thank you. Yes. We all harbor, you know, you know, most of us harbor some negative stories about ourselves, which are often expressed in our self-talk when something comes up that's a little challenging or stressful. And led to prayer relates to having full choice about how you wish
[32:34]
to show up for yourself, how you wish to touch the deepest part of yourself. Usually there's something extremely wholesome and care and valuable underneath that negative story. And so, how to find that. Like, well, for instance, if you notice in the metta sutta, there's often a, there's may I be well, loving, peaceful, and there's also may I be free from all these kinds of negative states. And so the, I think in the answer to your question, it's more like I'm gonna focus on
[33:36]
this offering of my request for ease and peace, I'm going to focus on that. I'm not going to let my attention be diverted from that as a practice. And then see what happens. Ben. I invite you to unmute yourself and ask a question. Hi, Ben. Hi, Peter. Good to see you. Good to see you. It just occurred to me when you were calling up some phrases from the Metta Sutta that there's also an aspect in that Sutta of... without intending to evoke any bad connotations for anyone, but vow of poverty or something like that?
[34:43]
There's sort of a wish to not acquire riches or possessions, and I'm wondering if you could say something about how that connects to our universal love. Well, I think it's... We all know that with... Great possessions, as mentioned in the sutta, come with responsibility. And so the question is, do you own it or does it own you? And I think that's what they're getting at there. Some people can be very skilled in managing a lot of responsibilities. We're all not like that. uh so great possessions like if you win the lottery or something like that it could ruin your life that kind of thing because it's um it's a pretty strong stimulus for all your stuff it might change your life's work actually so that's what i think about that
[36:00]
Andrea Thatch, I invite you to unmute yourself and ask a question. Thank you, Blake. Peter, thank you so much for a really rich and deep talk. Well, I'm going to test you, I guess, but not really. I think I understood them a little differently in this talk. Oh, good. I wanted to see if I connected with something you were saying, which is over the years, as I've worked with the metaphrases particularly, but phrases for all of these, I've often thought of cultivating goodwill and loving kindness for myself, for others, in a different arrangement. And that's been very helpful. But what I've understood particularly with sympathetic joy and with what you and Mushim have said is that actually what these do are help me, help us be aware of joy exists, love exists.
[37:13]
There's a kind of, I don't like to use the word absolute, but there is in this place of freedom, of not holding on to hatred or stinginess or comparative mind, whatever, there's this kind of free energy where there are the Brahma Viharas and that we can reside there. Could you say something about how you relate to that? And thank you. Thank you very much. It just occurred to me that in some ways how we relate to these is a matter of choice about our state of mind. We can cultivate a state in which we emphasize joy and love and equanimity. Or we can go back to what's easiest, which is greed, hate, and delusion. I think that's shorthand for a lot of stuff, obviously.
[38:16]
You know, it's... It's part of our inheritance, each one of us, we have to deal with. I love this teaching because it says, I have choice about how I'm going to manage my being in this world. And I think it's very powerful in that regard. Thank you. From the chat, there is a question. How might you practice meta while inhabiting a collective story, both unconscious of its impact in my lived experience and once it comes into awareness?
[39:26]
And how might... right anger be engaged as a gateway to fully energized joy? I'm sorry, I didn't read that well. Perhaps we could focus on the latter half or not. And how might right anger be engaged as a gateway to fully energized joy? I'll give a shot at that. In my view, anger, is energy, is information. And so the question is, is it in the service of joy and love? Can you bring that energy in a loving state of mind? Or is it... Or are you getting caught?
[40:30]
So if you say right anger, I'm going to assume that we're talking about one of the examples I gave in the talk, which is Dr. Martin Luther King, who is passionate and brought everything, all that anger and sorrow, all that energy to confronting the harm that was being done in this country. And that's a pretty tall order. But anyway, I think the key to it is knowing that anger is energy and information and which can be put to service. But the question is, what choices are being made about how I'm going to take care of my state of mind?
[41:36]
Am I going to intentionally do things which might stimulate negative states in others? Sometimes you don't have a choice. But I think personally, if I'm reading the question right, There's always choice about how to move forward with positive energy. So that's my shot at it. Thank you. Mary Beth Lamb, please unmute yourself and ask a question. Hi, Peter. Hi. When you were speaking with Ed, I found that I had a question about something that you said. And I may not get it exactly right, but you had said something to the effect of that the parts of ourselves that we don't like, that we have a hard time with, there's actually something wonderful motivating them or beneath them.
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And I was wondering if you could give a specific example about that, because that would be Pretty helpful for me. Well, if you think about a mistake you made that caused, you know, suffering, just put it bluntly, you know, for yourself or somebody else, there was, you know, and maybe it was one of those mistakes that involved not understanding the relationship between intention and impact. But there was some motivation. There was some basic need of yours or mine to act in this way that I think was responsive to wholesome feelings and wholesome inclinations.
[43:53]
I just didn't understand what I was doing. It's a little bit like what Thich Nhat Hanh was talking about, love, that it's really important to look deeply and carefully at our motivations and what it is we're trying to, how we're trying to connect with another person, or yourself for that matter. That understanding is deeply important when you're confronting with, you know, difficult circumstances. So I don't know if that addresses exactly what you're talking about, but I feel like, I guess I have a trust that, that I am always acting and behaving and speaking from a place of, I'll put it this way, this could be going on a limb a little bit, but I trust that I'm always acting and thinking and speaking in a way that's consistent with love. And at the same time, maybe I may be misled.
[44:58]
I may have a lack of understanding of the circumstances of the people involved or myself in a way that's naive. And then I get slapped upside the head, which is, you know, the world telling me that, oh, time to wake up. So oftentimes we're reacting to the time to wake up stimulus, and we've forgotten about how deeply it mattered to us to choose what we did choose at that time. We can talk further about this. It's a little tricky, but I think there's something... It's not just focusing on our intention and saying we had good intentions, but it's saying that there's something deeper than that to give rise to, something we should be able to trust.
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Anyway, I'll think more about it, and we can talk about it further. Thank you. Thank you. Susan Marvin. Please unmute yourself. Hi, Peter. Hi, Susan. Thank you so much. So is that what you just said, is that purity? Is that what love is? How are we ever sure of the purity of an intention, you know, knowing kind of full well that the ego is so tricky? We don't until we find out. It's like maybe the last word is trust.
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And trust. And trust again after you've learned more. And are you saying that that purity is love? Is that what you were saying love is? No, I'm sort of saying that that's our nature. Let's see. I'm saying that love is something which connects to our deepest wish for everyone. I guess that's what I'm saying. Connecting to that deepest wish is what I was talking about, what you were asking about. And is that, I may be going in circles, but is that deepest wish
[48:21]
Purity? I don't know how to answer that. I mean, what is at the bottom? What is at the bottom? There may be no bottom, but there's always something. I like that. There may be no bottom. There's a question from the chat again. Since we are already in the midst of reality as it is, how do we break this teaching into a less complex practice without getting lost in the clouds? Thank you, Peter. Let's see, I'm trying to figure out what it's really being asked about. Because I think of it as a very simple practice, and maybe that's my problem. I would recommend the basic texts like the mental prayer, considering that as a sort of gateway to understanding.
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But also I think Thich Nhat Hanh's exposition in his book, It's always backwards or whatever, but anyway. I think that he, well, he has a lot to say, of course. His attitude is one of kind of trying to veer towards simplicity and care. So I think that's about what I can say in response. Thank you. Stephanie Solar, I invite you to unmute yourself. Good morning, Peter. Morning. Thank you so much for your talk today. Thank you. Something came up for me as you were answering Mary Beth's question.
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And I have found that the nonviolent communication model, which I think you're familiar with, right? Participated in those groups. I find that it's been very helpful to me and to the people I work with because it's really, the focus is really on understanding what our basic needs are. And if we're able to distill down what those needs are, I found that I can come from a much clearer place in the way I communicate with people. So for those who don't know about the model, I find that the more that I have studied the model, the more I find that it really complements our practice. So thank you, Peter, for stimulating that thought and for your very generous talk.
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Well, thank you. You're welcome. Did you have any question or anything like that? No, it was more of a statement that I got in touch with something that I think others might find valuable, particularly very bad. Thank you. Just to say that. I've found the same resonance between the non-violent communication model and our practice over the years, and it's been very helpful to me. How are we doing, Blake? Beautifully, Peter. We have, but to your question, we have... We can end now. We have five minutes. I would just like to add, while we're waiting for a hand, how intimidated, especially this morning, I am when reciting the Mehta Sutta and the Mehta Prayer.
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It's such a grand vow and vows. I invite Kabir Nabi to unmute yourself and ask a question. Thank you for the great talk. What about love and compassion towards the ego? Oh, I saw that in the chat, yes. Well, the ego, where do you separate? I mean, is that any different from love and compassion for yourself? I'm trying. It's a battle. I'm, you know, there's no really a separation.
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I mean, I'm, I'm studying IFS internal family system, which is, you know, and, and hosts don't even talk about like all the sentient beings of my mind. But, I don't know. I don't hate the ego. I, There are times that I need it. I mean, I wouldn't survive if it wasn't for it. But at the same time, I have to be very careful not to always give it the wheel. Yeah. Who's in charge? Exactly. And your ego is trying to keep you safe. Your ego is trying to do all sorts of things for you. Exactly. You'd rather not be involved in it. Right. You know, and Ajaxanti, which I don't like the comment about the ego, he calls it a shapeshifter. You know, I mean, I don't know.
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So it can be a little tricky and could be a little trickster, but maybe that's just its nature, right? I mean... Yeah. We do have those parts of our head. Right. If I try so hard... to discipline it or to change it or to fix it, then it becomes a battle. Well, I think, you know, some of the, what's suggested in my mind as you speak is figuring out how to let go. Allow it, you know, it's not gonna go away. And it's just going to come and go. And it's, you know, it's some part of yourself that wants you to make sure that certain things are taken care of. Or maybe some part of yourself that wants you to be, wants ease. And the best way to do that is to distract yourself with some harmful thing. Have some compassion for it, but let it go.
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No clinging, right? Yeah, see if you can, you know, get that out. Thank you. I have a follow-up question. You know, in Buddhism, we talk about love and attachment. And there's so... Sometimes they're hard to distinguish between love and... Thich Nhat Hanh says something really useful about that, is that when he talks about equanimity, he talks about how most of what people consider love is trying to possess something. Yes. And when you do that, love disappears. And so... freedom for the beloved is really important.
[57:18]
So it comes down to go, right? Sort of like letting go? Yeah, letting go. Finding some way to have a more spacious relationship with whatever it is, whoever it is you love. Thank you so much, Peter. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Beautiful talk. Thank you. So is this time, Blake? Is it time? It is. Thank you very much, everyone here, for participating, being patient with me. And I'd love to see you soon again face-to-face, which I'm sure would well. Okay. Take care.
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