February 21st, 1987, Serial No. 00331

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I come to teach the truth in the darkness of words. Morning. Morning. I think most of you know already Hoitsu, but for those of you who don't know Hoitsu Roshi, He's coming for two weeks. being translated, but they're not here.

[01:24]

So at least it's not his own. He speaks better than he would like, than he believes. He's going to speak to us, and we're going to help him use our language, which is almost his own. Good morning, everybody. Thank you. A few years ago, a good meeting, party. Nice party. Nice party. Good music. Enjoy. I'm very glad that I have a happy feeling, a happiness feeling.

[02:39]

I think this center is a good community. Each person's connection is good, very well. My fear is... concerns? I'm sorry. Some fear. This morning, I sit in front of the step with Daniel.

[03:47]

Daniel said, what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm smoking now. He said, you're speaking, it's very funny. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Daniel. I'm Japanese. It's OK, he said. I love Daniel. Maybe same letters. Same. Same mind. I think so. Thank you. happy and peace and happy.

[05:21]

And of course, unhappy don't write. Shakyamuni Buddha too, Shakyamuni Buddha wanted happiness and peace. Shakyamuni Buddha said, everything, everybody has Buddha's mind.

[06:24]

We hope peace and happiness. If I hope, if we hope, happy and at peace. It is the same as Shakyamuni Buddha's mind. Don't think of difficulty. What is Buddha's mind? What is Buddha's Don't think difficult. Do you understand? Do you understand? A few days before, Zen Center's student people, during the meeting, they talk about practice.

[08:02]

The Zen Center in San Francisco had a meeting talking about practice. They're talking mind and practice form. Practice and form. Five into the mind. Five into the mind. Moving. action, moving, work. When I say, don't think. If you do work, it is in your mind,

[09:05]

It's in the action already. Don't think. No need thinking. Already into the action. Shakyamuni Buddha's mind... Buddha's mind is already... We use... He says... If you act out, just doing action has Buddha's mind, spirit, and everything in it, in action.

[10:34]

He said, action is very important because doing something, It's already in doing something. There's Buddha's mind, everything in it. So act out. It's very, very important. Has everything already. So it should be together. That's it. Today, everyone was working, but it was Buddha who was working. He said he observed your walking today. He said that's like Buddha is making, doing it. Buddha is with you, just walking. What you're doing is beautiful because it's with it, with Buddha.

[11:38]

Thank you. Why was it so difficult? My mother said, I never sit down. It's all right. I said, OK, it's all right. He said, sometimes I'm worried. Do zazen, not do zazen. Not do zazen, it's no good.

[12:38]

Very boring. I say, no, it's okay. Yes, during zazen, Every, every time? All the time. All the time. Why? She said, why? You're doing, you're doing it very warm, very warm mind, warm heart. Sometimes cry, sometimes angry, sometimes laugh.

[13:45]

It is all of four people. for another person. If I do bad things, she... she is cry... sadness? Sad? Sad. All the time, she... She has a warm mind, a warm heart. This is the same Buddhist way, Buddhist practice. It is the basic Buddhist way. Do you understand?

[15:10]

Do you understand? It's special. If you don't understand, ask questions. And I say, please keep your way." And she said, thank you. Shakyamuni Buddha So, Buddha's way, not so difficult. Just important is just one mind.

[16:19]

One mind. I'm going to question yours. You are master. You are smarter than master. She has one mind. No? She has mind. She mind is one. That's right? No? Warm? No? Warm. Strong?

[17:22]

Strong. And keep one way? Yes. Yes? And quiet? Silent? Kind? What if I say no? Not too kind. Too kind? Not too kind. Too hard. We don't know.

[18:30]

We cannot know about Shakyamuni Buddha, really. We know by book, lesson. But we can see, we can listen voice and form my master, we master. If you want to see Shakyamuni Buddha, See... your master. Your master.

[19:34]

Yeah, your master. Your teacher. Teacher? Sensei. Shisho. Shisho. Anata no shisho wo mitai to omottara anata no shisho wo mitasai. To iitai. If you want to feel or see Shakyamuni, you go to your teacher, he says. If you want to see Shakyamuni or feel or know, go to your master, Roshi, your teacher, that's what he says. Is there a reason for that? That is... He said, why he said that, because your teacher, your Roshi, has received Buddha's way or heart, or whatever Buddha wants to teach you.

[21:06]

The teacher has received wisdom to teach you. Therefore, go to him." Same thing, he says. Same. And I ask you a question. If you have any question, please. No? Yes. Do you have a kind heart? A warm heart? Do you have? Each person have one kind mind. Kind mind. Warm heart. Warm heart. Silent, quiet, and strong heart.

[22:27]

Soft, soft and new energy. Soft, soft mind. Everybody heart. Everybody heart. Therefore, you, yours, and your master are the same. Kind, warm, and strong. Keep away one way, and everything is the same. Therefore, you are the same Shakyamuni Buddha's mind, Shakyamuni Buddha's way.

[23:33]

Therefore, if you do some work, Shakyamuni Buddha's work, Shakyamuni Buddha's action. If you want happiness, pray for it. If you want happiness, pray for it. If you want to be happy, you have to make other people happy first.

[24:41]

Then you'll be happy too. Shakyamuni Buddha said Sometimes I think no good, bad thing. But this is just Little bit, minutes, minutes, no.

[25:44]

Just a split second. Come up in my head. But not every time, not every time think about the bad thing. Same, everybody same. Sometime come. Don't become big this. Don't pursue or don't follow it. If bad thoughts come, say come, but just let go. Hango don't even make it bigger. When I sit at the end, come up, something come up.

[26:49]

Oh, something. Oh, money. Oh, big money. I want big money. I go to the with money. And anywhere, any place, it's not good. Don't move. Sit. Sometimes, when I walk, read, anything, sometimes come up bad, no good.

[27:54]

This is natural. This is natural. but don't act out, he said. Maybe bad thoughts come to you, but don't act out. Kangaeru koto ni, omoitsuita warui koto ni, koudou wo issho ni suru to, If negative or evil thoughts come to you, and if you act out, if you do it, then you are lost in your negative world. You just lose yourself. If you don't move, if negative thought comes to you, that's natural.

[29:01]

Just stay there. Don't act out. He says, those negative, bad thoughts come maybe a split second, And if you act out, you are really betting your whole life into this. Something happens in a split second if you do it. It's not worth it, because that's only for a split second you thought something bad, but most of the time you're thinking nice things. So don't do, you know, such a meaningless thing. I always work with the Buddha's mind,

[30:08]

He said, usually we wake up, wash face, read books, do job, Do many good things with Buddha's mind and heart. So, once in a while, when negative thought comes for a split second, if you act out, you lose all that. So don't do anything, those negative things. Protect all your goodness. To sit or to meditate means to stay, not to move, to be quiet, just stay. So that's the meaning of meditation. Every time, even many other things come into you, even negative thoughts and all this, don't move.

[31:38]

Just stay and be quiet. Be centered. That's what meditation means. My mind is the same as everybody. Not different, same. Sometimes comes, everything comes to my head. I want to do that. But I think it is important. Now it's very important to sit and don't move.

[32:45]

Don't move and don't run. Now it's very important to just sit. and stay. I think so. Please... Please... one way. This way is good way, because your master do this way, and his master do this way.

[34:01]

His first master, Suzuki Shunryu, kept one way. And Suzuki Shunryu kept one way. All of Buddhists same. All of pagans same. You know what he said? Shunyās, [...] Shunyās. All teachers I'm sure... [...]

[35:57]

He says, if you keep a single way, a way you think is right, sometimes you wonder whether that way, because only one way is good or bad, you always wonder, And you may sometimes go sideways if you try to go there. But he said, keep the single way. Because if you do it long enough, eventually you'll be satisfied and you'll begin to see the way. And it really brings you happiness for whatever you are pursuing. So keep the single way what you breathe. Meditation is to stay in one place.

[37:08]

And also, restriction is also staying one place. What? Do you understand? No. I don't understand. Same thing? No, not same thing. Restriction. Same thing. It all ends up same as a result. Restriction restricts you, yet you cannot move. Buddha doesn't want to move in an unnecessary way, so he puts all these restrictions. He says, sorry, he can't explain well, he says. Dogenzenji is... It's hard to say.

[38:39]

From the beginning, we were on the road. We were on the road, so we didn't have to get lost. We weren't wrong. We weren't wrong to begin with. Let's first believe in that. That's what Dogen Zenji said. Dogen Zenji said, there's a way, Buddha's way. It's a way. If you are in that way, you don't get lost and you don't... There's no mistake. You don't make, if you stay in the way, you don't make mistakes, you don't get lost.

[39:45]

So, if you keep the single way, the way, you are really alive. You do anything, but you are really, you don't get lost. So keep the way. So, he said, trust the way, trust Dogen or Buddha's way. If you really believe in it, it's the way. You have to believe it. It's very difficult. I don't know how to translate the word. Our life is in the Buddha's way already. Alive! Ah, I see. I'm sorry. We were originally in your heart. We are in the Buddha's heart and mind from the beginning, and we are in the Buddha's way.

[41:16]

We are really in it. We are living in it. So, just accept." It includes everyone. We should believe that no one is separated from the Buddha. It's difficult. Buddha's Way has everything. It includes everybody. It has everything. So if you believe that, then you can be safe and you feel natural. So just believe that Buddha's Way is for everybody.

[42:20]

For everybody. And we have it. What he was trying to tell you or explain is Really, if you try to summarize, really believe Buddha's way. Believe, really trust, believe.

[43:22]

That's what he really wants to say. Then he says, If you trust or if you believe, then everything is justified." So he said, no, it's not so. Our task is not just to believe in being satisfied. You have to make it deeper. You have to search. You have to make it deeper. That's our responsibility. To make it deep or deepen it, it's a really difficult thing.

[44:23]

That's the process of really training or growing yourself. That's what we call shugyo, practice. The practice is an endless way. It will never be enough. It's endless. It's forever. So we have to just keep trying, practicing. We always have to keep the idea that never enough. We never reach there, but just trying, trying. We have to always remember.

[45:26]

some story. Kishizawa Roshi, Kishizawa Roshi, he is my father's teacher. He said, he said, he said some temple in Zendo. Night time, Big rain come down. Big rain come down. Big sound. And crack. Tap. Creek. Creek come down. Water. Water come. Big sound. doesn't finish hit sound.

[46:53]

He said listen sounded mix and special feel. But special, very beautiful, wonderful sound, he listened. Kisarashi sing, thought. Thought. This is some satori. Satori. He had... He... He had?

[47:55]

He went to his master, and standing, he says, and bowing. This is a declaration. Declaration? Expression. Expression? Yes. To tell, maybe to... I reached enlightenment. That's what he wants to tell. His master, Nishiyarizen, said, Why?

[49:01]

What are you doing? Kizaru said, Water sound and fall. Fall water? Water sound, hand sound, bell sound mixed. I listened. I was listening that. Very special feel, he said. And his master said, You broke your clear mirror. Mirror?

[50:02]

Your clear mirror broke. What do you think about this? I think his master, Nishiyari Boku-san, think, oh good, my student, my deshi become good. But won't stay here. But he won't... He don't want to stay there. More high, more deep. Because, therefore, say, slow your mirror.

[51:10]

It is... Don't... Don't... Enough. Usually... Usually go to front. Same thing. Nothing. I went to the H.H. And I sat for a session. One week. One week session. One day, two. One, two, three. meet, meet, meet coming on the third day, third day, and I sit, and I saw my front, in front of my body, I saw a beautiful view, mountain, the crowd, the sea, beautiful, and, and

[52:51]

But I listened to another sound. I saw a beautiful view. And I was like a Buddha, like a god spirit. I saw three times one session. I saw. Seen. Seen. I seen. Sawed. Sawed. Three times. And I go to Shike. with his teacher, Zen teacher. And I asked to him, I saw a beautiful, same view, same mountain, three times.

[53:55]

And he said, don't. It is a dream. You, maybe you, Sleeping. No, I'm not sleep...slept. No, you are sleeping. You are slept. Now I think so. Ah, that is...no. Kind of hallucination. Imagination. But it is necessary, that fear. But I don't want that feel.

[55:09]

I want some special feel. I want... I want... It's no good. It's coming naturally. Same breath, same lifestyle. Some feel too natural. But that is maybe Imagination. But that experience... Experience is necessary.

[56:22]

Maybe. He said, however, that kind of experience is necessary when you're going through meditation or Sesshin practice. But he said, don't expect, don't seek. If it happens, it happens. That's because that was necessary. But don't seek for it, he said. We should all put a lot of effort to set. Setting makes deeper all the time. I think that's very important. Long time ago in China.

[57:28]

Oh, time? One more. One more. One minute? Long time ago in China, Hogen Zenji. Hogen Zenji. Very famous master, Zen master. Some monk, monk, monk, ask to him. Some monk live in side of Hogen Tenjin. But some monk never ask to him. about Dharma. Never. Hogen said, why you don't ask to me for Dharma, about Dharma?

[58:42]

Yes, I took Satori already, another temple. Because I don't know, therefore I never ask to you. Oh, hi. Hogen said, oh, hi. Please talk to me about your satori. He said, yes, of course. Fennai, another temple. Fennai and drastic thing in another temple. I asked to that master, Seirin Zenji, what is Buddha?

[59:49]

Seirin Zenji said, Fire boy. Fire boy. Fire boy want fire. Fire ball, not boy. In Chinese, spirit, like spirit. Fire boy. Fire boy want fire ball. You know, fire spirit or something seeking fire. Fire boy wants fire. Wants. Wanting him.

[60:51]

Wanting. Wanting. Wanting fire. And I... I understand... Say... Just that monk is very angry. Hogen Zenchi is no good master, bad master. Very angry and stand up and go out to temple. leave temple. And Hogen said, oh, sorry. If he come back to this temple, I try, I try teach, grow up teach for him.

[61:53]

If don't, if he don't come, come back to this temple, cannot, cannot, cannot help. Tsukumu. Tsukumu koto wa dekinai. Cannot take. Some monk walking, hungry, walking, but think. Just a moment. He had 500 students. 500 students. 500 students bowing to Hogen Zenji. It is easy to go out. Go somewhere. Someplace. I tried again to ask to him, and he came back to Hogenrenji Temple.

[63:19]

And Hogenrenji said, oh, you come back. Yes. And I won't ask to you, please. He somewhat said, what is Buddha? Hogen said, fire boy wants fire. And that monk understand Dharma. This story... talk about... not enough.

[64:38]

It's never enough. That story itself is not enough to really explain all, however. Some monks come back, some monks think, oh, I want He said the most important thing within the story is that he came back and he wanted to ask a question, what is Dharma? That intention is the most important. It's better not to talk about this too much.

[66:02]

Please think nothing. Thank you? He says it's always seeking, always examining, and always try to make it deeper. Yes, try deeper. Try deeper means... Don't think too much. Yes. Yes, center. If you have any questions, please. After this, if you have any questions, I will talk to you directly.

[67:44]

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