I'm going to let you guys go for a while, and I want you all to hold your questions until I'm through with my main talking. Let me talk, you'll find out. When I'm through with my main talking, the way to ask questions as you go is to raise your hand and I'll call on you. And since we're a very small group and I can see all of you, you don't need to be real super energetic about getting my attention because I know your hand is up and I'll try to be bigger and caller in the future. So just like in school, you know, we do that, you know, by calling and interrupting people. We talked last time about, we talked about things like TV and watching TV, you know, most of us don't have TVs, it's one of the things we talked about. And I wanted to talk about today the difference between work and play, which you all think about, have us think about together.

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What's the difference between work and play? Because actually it's a pretty important thing to know. Usually, most people, maybe children too, think that what children do is play and what grown-ups do is work. And there's also a third thing, which is a kind of play which grown-ups call entertainment. You all know the word entertainment, don't you? Like going to the movies is entertainment and watching TV is sometimes entertainment. And going to a football game is entertainment sometimes. So there are these different things. Entertainment is a kind of play, but it's not exactly play, it's a little different from play. But grown-ups also play sometimes and they also have entertainment sometimes and then they work. And children also sometimes work and sometimes play. And sometimes are in a team.

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So usually when you think of children, you think that what children do is go out and play. I normally say that I go out and play. When you think of grown-ups, you think of grown-ups going out to go to work. But here at Greenbelt, it's not so clearly defined all the time, the difference between work and play. I'd like to talk about it a bit with you and also get you to think about this opportunity. What the value is of work, what the value is of play, what the value is of entertainment. Most people in the world don't have time or the ability to get entertained. Most people, including children in the world, just work. Because there is barely enough to eat in many countries in the world. You have to work all day just to get enough to eat. Because those countries are very poor.

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We happen to live in a very rich country called the United States, which is actually one of the richest countries. Because we're so rich, there's lots of extra time to play, to be entertained, as well as to work. Children, for the most part, in America, don't have to work. They can go to school, play, and learn about things, and they can work when they're older. And grown adults, mostly, and even children, don't have to do any work. For all green adults, most of your parents have chores and you have to do some kind of work. Some of you have chores to do and work to do.

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Sometimes, probably, you get some money for doing those chores, and sometimes you don't get money for them. Working doesn't always mean getting money. Sometimes working is just something that you have to do, like cleaning up your room. If you don't do that thing, that kind of work, then your life doesn't go so well. So if your room is a mess, and you don't have your clothes for the week, you can't find your clothes, and maybe that happens. So some kind of work isn't just work for money, it's work because you have to do it. Another example of work like that is cooking food. If your mom and dad or whoever's cooking your food doesn't cook your food, you don't have anything to eat. If you don't have anything to cook for the week, you don't have to do something. So that's another kind of work. Then there's a kind of work that's a job where you get paid for doing that work. And that kind of work, you do it more so that you can get the money for it, maybe you don't really like doing that kind of work. You don't have to do it. Like for instance, Amber works babysitting.

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Amber doesn't have to babysit to make her life go well, but she has to babysit if she wants some extra money. Maybe she doesn't even like babysitting. I know Dion has washed cars. Dion doesn't have to wash a woman's car, probably he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't probably go wash my car just for the fun of it. It wouldn't be a play, it wouldn't be work. He's doing it because people are giving him money to do it, and with that money he can buy other things. He can buy things that he wants. Maybe you can buy things that entertain you, like a video. You can buy some turds at the video game at 7-Eleven or something like that with the money that you work for. So we wouldn't think of playing video games at 7-Eleven as work, we'd think of it as play or entertainment. And just a minute, I'm not quite through with the main point of what I'm talking about, I have questions. So, now the grown-ups here at Greenbelch work quite a lot, you all know that they work really hard. They even have a schedule of work.

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Do you know when the work period starts? 4? Yeah. 9? Well, yeah, around 9, that's right. And it goes until 4.30. And actually most regular jobs, have any of you heard the phrase 9 to 5? Yeah. Well, most jobs in America go from 9 to 5 when you do work in an office. You go to work, you get there at 9, and then you go home at 5. Now, farmers, like in real farms, like where Gloria grew up, they don't work from 9 to 5. You get up early in the morning, like 5 in the morning or something like that, and you work probably until 6 or 7 at night, particularly when the season begins to grow. So, not everybody works from 9 to 5. Usually farm work takes a lot longer. It's very hard to do. But farm work is very important because farm work is the work that makes the food that we eat.

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Without somebody doing farm work, then most of the food we eat would be eaten. So, anyway, Greenbelch, the grown-ups do work, but they're not doing that work exactly because they're getting paid, although we do give people some money. Hi. Excuse me. I don't know what's going on here. How can I even communicate with you? Oh. Well, I'll let you know. No. What's going on here? Well, this is the children's lecture. I'm just going to ask you about something because it's meaningful. I don't know whether it's meaningful or not. Step outside and discuss what you're doing. Why do you want to know what's going on? Well, it's meaningful. I need your help. It's meaningful. No, I'm only talking to you. Oh, I see. What are you up to? What are you planning to do? Can you just stand there? I'm doing this. Why don't you let me see what you're doing?

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I see. Now, can you tell me what you're doing? I just didn't know what you were doing. Oh, I see. We need to go this way. Okay. I thought he was on the phone. I'm sorry. I can't hear you. Okay. I just didn't know. Okay. Well, maybe that would be a good place to stop. I can't stay so long today. So, I'd like to know if you have any questions or if you have anything you'd like to say. Well, um, Sean has his detective agency with two cents to make just a tiny bit more money. What does he say? Sean has his detective agency with... Two cents? Yeah. You saw as a kid. Uh-huh. Would you call that work or play? I would call that work because working has to take longer.

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Go all over the place. But is it fun? Yeah. Working is fun. Is that right, Robin? Well, I'd say it's both, sort of. Both? Sort of. Uh-huh. And also, we work at school. You can work at school? Of course, a lot. More than we play. Well, what do you mean by working at school? Do you mean like learning? Yeah, yeah. Math work. Uh-huh. I see. So, would you think that would be work or would that be... I think learning is another form of... It's work. It's work. It's work, huh? It better be. But you're not getting paid for it, so it doesn't work like a job, right? I know, but it's still work. Uh-huh. We have to pay them. Right. Well, actually, you don't. Well, the way you get back is learning. How do you get learning? Well, it's not fun learning. It's not fun learning? No. It never is. Well, I was just going to say that sometimes you can call something playing.

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Somebody else can call something work. Or you can call something work. Or somebody else can call something play. Because, like, to you, maybe this is probably what you feel this way, but maybe for someone it's fun to watch cars when you go out and watch cars. They get paid for it, so people say it's work. But they may feel like it's play. So, it sort of comes with learning. Well, that's something like what I was trying to say about the way grown-ups work at Greenville, which is that most of us who live here, most of the grown-ups that live here, if we wanted to make more money, if money was what we were interested in, we could go find a job and we could get more money. We like doing this. Most of us do because we like it. It's almost like play for us. Although it isn't play like. Maybe part of what play is that you can choose. You can choose. You can do what you want to do. So, in that sense, grown-ups at Greenville just don't do what they want to do exactly. They still have a choice. We have a choice. And also, we don't have to be here.

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So, we're choosing. Each of us are choosing to be here. Now, unfortunately for your children, or fortunately, however you may feel, you don't exactly have a choice because you're here because your parents are here, whether you want to be or not. But still, I think there are very good things about being here at Greenville, which is part of what we're talking about. And so part of what I'm saying is that the way we live at Greenville, which isn't exactly like ordinary work. It isn't exactly like ordinary play. And it's also, Brad Robin brought up the fact that going to school is a kind of work called learning, or education, is the bigger word that grown-ups use, which isn't good. And getting an education is very important because it helps you know about things that you need to live a good life. And the grown-ups that are here at Greenville are also learning something. They're getting an education in something called Buddhism, which is, you might say that Buddhism is something like

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how to live a good life as a grown-up or a child. And believe it or not, most grown-ups, even though they're real old, don't necessarily know how to live well. And they're still learning that. And so Buddhism is one way to help grown-ups that have their problems, too, learn how to live better together. And that's why we do what we're doing for Mr. I heard at a different school that they can grow up a little bit more if they do it. You heard that? Which was in that? E-education. Yeah. Well, that's sort of right. That's part of what living at Greenville is all about, is trying to figure out if there's another way to live so that we don't have to blow ourselves up. Because I don't think that would mean work or play or entertainment or learning, would it? On any of those categories. Yes, Dion? How do you know, actually, Russia could blow up the whole world in 30 minutes?

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Well, actually, it's a little bit of an exaggeration. Mostly we could blow up all of Russia and all of the United States, but there's not quite enough to blow up the whole world. And probably the Australians and the Africans and people like that would be all right because they're far away from those places. But we could certainly do a lot of damage. And part of what grown-ups are trying to figure out how to do now, and some of your own moms and dads are trying to figure out if there's some way to not have, first of all, not have so many bombs, so it's not such a perfect chance that we'll do that. It's sort of like, suppose there were two big kids at school, and each big kid had three guns, four knives, eight bazookas, two tanks, and a water pistol. And you figured they were both very mad at each other. Now, you figure if you could take away at least two guns in both of the tanks and the water pistol and some of the knives, they'd have less of a chance of hurting each other than with all that stuff.

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That's called disarmament. Disarmament means taking away weapons. So the less weapons you have, even if you're mad at somebody, the less harm you can do. So two people without guns and knives can't hurt each other nearly as badly as two people with guns and knives. So that's what disarmament is all about. And there are some grown-ups who are very interested in trying to get Russia and the United States to disarm and at least talk about disarm. Do you know the other three countries that have nuclear weapons? South America? No. Germany? Not Germany. Japan? France? Not Japan. Germany. France is one of them. China? Yes. France, China, there's one more. England? Right. Germany and Japan don't have nuclear weapons because of a very particular reason, which is that they lost the last war fighting us, and so we have kept them from having their own weapons.

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Japan doesn't have much of an army. They rely on the United States to protect them, and Germany is the same way. But France, England, and China all have nuclear weapons, not nearly as many as we do, and there are several other countries that could have them before too long. But it's very difficult to build nuclear weapons. It requires a very highly developed science and lots of scientists who know how to do it, so that most countries can't do it. Why are we one of the most powerful countries? Well, that's a very hard question to answer. One of the reasons is that... We're a rich country? Well, where riches come from is originally from things like oil and gold and silver and farms and land and factories and things like that. And before people from Europe, white people, came to America, there weren't very many people living here. So there was lots of wealth, lots of riches,

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that were in the ground, in the land, in the trees and things, which no one could take. So when people came from Europe, there was this very, very big country that they could use things like oil and gas and coal and trees and wood and paper and all that, and make things, and that's how you get rich. So, for instance, in Japan, let me just finish my statement. First I'll call on Robin and then I'll call on James. In Japan, for instance, Japan has no oil, very little oil, so they have to bring all their oil from other countries in ships in order to make heat to build their factories and build cars and things like that. Whereas the United States has lots of its own oil. And so we were able to... A lot of people got very rich. Have you ever heard of a man named Rockefeller? Have you heard that name, Rockefeller? Well, the Rockefellers are probably the richest family. For a long time, the Rockefellers were the richest family in the world. And why they're rich is because they made their money

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sucking up oil out of the ground and selling it to people. Well, that's because they got the oil before anybody else did and they found it, and so forth. And, yes, Robin. We got our language from very different places. That's what the Egyptians did. That's true. Do you remember what the word is? I'll tell you. I think one of them is black. And, um... English. And, um... Yeah, English, too. No, Anglo-Saxon, not English. That's a good point, but it's a little bit off the subject, but that's a good thing to bring up. To me, it's Anglo-Saxon. What? Were the Indians there when the Europeans came? Yeah, but there weren't very many of them. There were a lot more of us than there were of them. Also, we brought from Europe, white people from Europe,

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brought a lot of things that we knew how to do that the Indians didn't know how to do, like make factories and make steel and make weapons and guns. We were more powerful than they were, not because they weren't as smart or weren't as good. In fact, they had many beautiful things, but with their way of life. But their way of life wasn't as aggressive or powerful as our way of life. So they were pretty much able to push aside the bottom line. And that's part of why America was very rich, because not only was America full of things in the ground that no one had taken out before, but also people coming from Europe knew how to use those things in the ground and make riches out of them. Also, a lot of times, people from other countries, sometimes the best people, not the best, but the smartest people, smart scientists, come over to America because they say, well, America's the richest, but actually they act for the wealthier.

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That's true. There's another reason too, which is that most countries in the world are surrounded by other countries and have been conquered by wars many times in their history, like France or England or Germany. But America is surrounded by oceans. And until very recently, when there was jet planes and things like that, it was hard to get to America. So America has never in its entire history been conquered by anybody, or people from another country have come and watched it and taken over it like many other countries. So we haven't had that experience. I'm going to have to go if we see each other, but we can have a couple more questions. Yes, honey? Why did you start having nuclear weapons? Well, that's another interesting question. The last big war, as most of you know, that was fought was called World War II. And World War II was fought mostly against Germany. It was ruled by a pretty bad guy named Hitler.

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You probably heard of him. Hitler was a real bad guy. He wanted to take over the whole world, pretty much. And Hitler... German scientists were probably the best scientists in the world. And they knew about the possibility of splitting atoms to make a very powerful explosion. And so Hitler's scientists were developing, or at least American scientists thought they were developing an atomic bomb. And we were very afraid that if Hitler developed the atomic bomb, that he would actually be able to take over the world. And so we decided the only way to stop that was for us to develop the atomic bomb first. And that's what happened. And we actually were able to defeat Germany in the war before they developed the atomic bomb, but then we were still fighting Japan. And so to make the war end faster, the president of the United States, who was named Truman at that time, decided to drop the atomic bomb on two cities in Japan, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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And his thinking about that was, although it was going to kill a lot of people, he was afraid that Japan would not surrender, even though they were losing it, that it would have to kill many more people until Japan would surrender. And so he felt that to do that and make the war end quickly by showing Japan he could possibly win was actually better than killing millions and millions more people. Now a lot of people, after that, have looked back and said they thought it was a very bad thing to do and they shouldn't have done that. But anyway, that's what happened, and that's why. So then America was the only country in the world at that time that had nuclear weapons. But shortly after that time, the other big country, powerful country in the world called Russia, also had nuclear weapons. And then other countries wanted to have them too, so pretty soon there were nuclear weapons. But the reason why we know how to make nuclear weapons is because of some scientific discoveries of a man named Albert Einstein. You've probably heard of Einstein.

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Einstein found out how the very tiniest forms of matter called atoms were made and how to release the energy inside of them. And because he found that out, people immediately decided that the only thing to do was to make bombs out of that material. And so that's how he did it. But before Einstein discovered that, people didn't know how to make nuclear weapons. The strongest weapons people had were bombs made out of TNT explosives. TNT is a chemical explosive, kind of like dynamite. Well, Albert Einstein wasn't really a scientist, was he? He was, but he left Germany because he hated Hitler. He came to America and he lived in America during World War II. A lot of the good people in Germany ran away when Hitler came to power because they were afraid Hitler would kill them, and he was probably right. He did kill them.

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He did kill them. He killed himself or was killed? Most people think that Hitler killed himself because he realized that he had lost the war. That's what most people think. Why did he kill himself? Well, it's kind of hard to say. He was a real bad person. He hated people a lot. A lot of people are that way, but he was also the head of a large, powerful country. And when you're the head of a large, powerful country and you're also a pretty bad guy, you have the power to make a lot of other people do what you say. And even though there are lots of bad people that would like to kill other people, most of them don't have a chance to do it because they're too scared or they don't have the power. But he had the power to do it, and why he got the power, we've been talking about so many times. It's pretty complicated, but anyway. This is the lecture ending. Amber, and then Ivan, and then we'll end. Do you think that Hitler was still alive

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or that somebody shot him? Well, I think it's pretty clear that Hitler died in World War II, but there's always been rumors from this point on that maybe he's still alive in Argentina or someplace like that. But most people don't believe those rumors. It's just that, you know how rumors are, gossip, even though they're not true, once they get started, people like to believe them. It's probably not true. There's no proof of it. I saw the movie of it, and it was like there was this woman who had killed her children to die for Hitler and stuff. They did all these things. I don't know if that's exactly true, but I heard that. Yes, Ivan. Why did Russia and America become enemies? Well, that's pretty hard to say exactly why Russia and America became enemies.

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Russia and America have a different idea about how to make society work, how people should make society or government. Society is all the people in a country. Russia and America have very different ideas about how to make society work. Also, Russia and America both want the same things. Let's say you and Timmy both wanted that bell. Now, both of you could have it. You'd probably fight over it, right? You'd become enemies. Well, Russia and America both want to control other countries and these are to control the riches of other countries and so forth. To some extent, we're fighting over it, but we're not fighting with weapons because the weapons that we have are so horrible that no one can win. We're not really fighting like a war. We're fighting more. It's what used to be called the Cold War. Have you ever heard that phrase, the Cold War?

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The Cold War is more like fighting with words rather than fighting with weapons. That's more the way Russia and America are fighting. Now, can we stop? Yes, we'll stop. Okay? We'll make our show with you. So, goodbye. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

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