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Benefits of Meditation for Self and Others Serial 00003
The talk focuses on the effective approach to meditation, emphasizing the importance of commitment, adaptability, and non-attachment to experiences during practice. It discusses the phenomenon of Nyaam, transient experiences in meditation, and advises maintaining equanimity and avoiding attachments, as clinging to experiences can create obstacles. The discussion also explores the concept of taking refuge in the Buddha, highlighting it as both an aspirational spiritual practice and an appeal to transcendental guidance.
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Nyaam (Tibetan term): Describes transient experiences in meditation, advising practitioners not to cling to these phenomena as they arise, but to develop non-attachment for unimpeded progress.
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Concept of Taking Refuge in Buddha: Explains a dual approach where Buddha is seen both as an aspirational figure and a transcendental guiding force, reinforcing the idea of striving towards personal enlightenment.
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Meditation and Commitment: Encourages maintaining meditation commitments despite challenges, using personal ingenuity to fulfill those commitments effectively.
The talk serves as a practical guide for advanced meditation practice and spiritual growth by combining personal discipline, proper mindset, and philosophical understanding.
AI Suggested Title: "Beyond Experiences: The Meditation Journey"
Benefits of Meditation for Self and Others
Taught by: Jetsun Kushok
Interpreted by: Richard Barron (Chokyi Nyima)
Minds are funny things. And again, as a fundamental general statement. It is something to encourage in yourself to live up to commitments that you've made. So if you've told yourself or if you've gone to a teacher and committed yourself to a certain amount of practice a day, it's definitely preferable to carry out that practice. Even if you feel on a nominal level that you're not completely involved in the practice because you're tired or distracted or whatever. It's far better to at least make the attempt. But you have to remember that skillful method is called for in this situation.
[01:05]
And this means that if you get up in the morning and you find that you don't wake up quickly and you're a little bit tired, drink a cup of coffee. Throw some cold water on your face. Do something to wake yourself up. Don't just sit there and think, oh, I've got to do something to make it work. Do something to make it work. Jennifer Kushner said on this note, she said, most people in the West think that coffee wakes you up and puts you to sleep. But there's always some means that can be found if a person's willing to work. It's a question of examining your own mind and determining what's needed in the situation. As a general rule, keeping your commitments is important. Whether it's a commitment to yourself or a commitment to one of your teachers, it's important to live up to those commitments. But you have to do it with intelligence and with a certain ingenuity, skill, and needs to discover what is going to work for you in order to live up to that commitment. And so you shouldn't feel as though you're locked into a situation where something impossible is absolutely required.
[02:08]
Rather, it is finding the way in which you, as an individual, can adapt to fulfilling a specific request or a specific commitment that you've made or a request that's been made of you by one of your teachers. And as long as one is willing to continue to examine and critically appraise their own experience with intelligence and with commitment, then there's always a means. There's always some way that can be found. So you should never feel as though the situation is a hopeless one. There's always some way that'll work. It's simply a question of being inquisitive and intelligent enough to find out what that way is. I have a question about that. you know, the meditational experience of their lives. When you meditate and you start meditating, you eventually sometimes experience your lives. Whether they're good or bad, you're always told to just stop them. And I wonder that what purpose did the experience, what did they show? What are they and why do they arise and why do you ignore them?
[03:13]
So the question concerns the phenomena of unstable experiences, which are called Nyaam in Tibetan. It means a kind of flash or unstable moment of insight or experience of bliss or clarity or something like that, something that comes and goes, or something bad, something terrifying. You might have a sudden sense of total fear when you meditate. And the general injunction in the Buddhist teachings is that these are to be let go, just ignored in the sense that they arise, find, and then you don't cling to them. You don't deal with them in terms of wanting or not wanting. simply let them go. If that's the case, what's the purpose of an arising? What function do they serve if the only attitude towards them is one of equanimity, of not clinging to them at all? Is that right? What benefit can be derived from those experiences, and why do they arise? When I was young, my father was a monk. He was a monk. He was a monk.
[04:16]
He was a monk. He was a monk. He was a monk. She said, that's a big question. We have to take care of them.
[05:28]
We have to take care of them. We have to take care of them. We have to take care of them. What is the meaning of the name? The meaning of the name is that it is the name of the Buddha. The name of the Buddha is the name of the Buddha. The name of the Buddha is the name of the Buddha. The name of the Buddha is the meaning of the name of the Buddha. The name of the Buddha is the meaning of the name of the Buddha. The name of the Buddha is the meaning of the name of the Buddha. Jetson Fisher says, I feel most comfortable by addressing the part of the question concerning the advice to avoid clinging to the experiences that arise.
[06:32]
In terms of where they come from, why do these arise? Why does practice cause these experiences? He says, I don't really know, in the sense that I don't have a really good answer for that one right now. As I said before, that if I didn't feel that I could give a good answer, I'd say so. Now I'm saying so. But in terms of how to deal with the experience, I think it is very important that we appreciate the value of the advice the teachers have given throughout the centuries of regardless the experience that arises, whether it's good or bad, nominal, whether we feel that it's a good experience, quote unquote, or a bad experience, quote unquote, the more we cling to that experience as either good or bad, the more obstacles we create in our practice. The more we're simply able to accept and let go of what arises in our practice, the more straightforward our progress to enlightenment will be. Because taking any particular experience
[07:36]
to be the goal is a pitfall. We have an experience of clarity or an experience of emptiness or an experience of bliss and we think, ah, this is it, this is what we're after. Then we have limited ourselves because when we actually read of the goal state, if we can speak of such a thing, it is the simultaneous union of, for example, clarity and emptiness. It's not just an experience of clarity, a kind of mere flash of clarity. Nor is it a mere glimpse of emptiness. It's a total simultaneous union of clarity and emptiness. And at the same time, it's neither clarity nor emptiness. We can't really pin it down. We can't really say it's this or it's that that we're looking for. So on our path to that ultimate state of realization, which is very difficult to describe, we will have all kinds of possibilities. experiences definite experiences which could become problematic if we we remain stuck in those experiences so as a general rule the ability to develop a non-clinging attitude towards your meditation experience is very important it guards against the possibility of any of those being obstacles
[08:56]
Yeah, this relates to a previous question, but in my meditation I tend to get into a very blissful state and have great attachment to that complete Christ. I'm just wondering what my attitude toward that should be. I mean, should I feel bad about feeling good? I should have it sometime. I can understand what the answer is, what's wrong with it, not just practice. Just what should my answer be for it after that? So the question concerns states of bliss or experiences of bliss that arise in meditation. And this gentleman having heard and read that attachment to such or just indulging in the bliss in itself as the point of meditation could be a pitfall, be a trap.
[10:07]
How does one best deal with it? Is there a, as I understood the question, is there a difference between being, clinging to the bliss and merely enjoying it, allowing it to happen but not becoming attached to it? Is that the sense? Yes. Yes. Yeah, there is a difference between simply experiencing bliss as it arises and clinging to that. On that note, the possibility you mentioned of actually being suspicious of the bliss is just as problematic.
[11:31]
If you tell yourself, oh, I shouldn't be feeling this bliss, this is wrong to feel this bliss, there's as much clinging as if the person is totally wallowing in bliss and becoming very indulgent about it. So it's not a question of inhibiting the experience as it arises, trying to block it or being suspicious of it, but simply allowing it to arise without the mental attitude that you want to hang on to it, that you want to maintain it or hang on to it, that as it arises, it is allowed to arise. And if you simply rest in the nature of the experience without attempting to prolong or intensify or maintain it, then that should be sufficient. Perhaps one more question, then we'll call a halt for today. Maybe behind there? Yeah. I'm not sure what it means, actually, to take refuge in Buddha. Is it more in the sense that you're going to try to be as much like Buddha as you can, or should you be able to do it more if you're, say, in Europe, it's worse if you take refuge in Buddha?
[12:35]
Okay, so the question concerns taking refuge in Buddha. Does one think of taking refuge in Buddha as the desire to emulate and become as much like Buddha or to become a Buddha, I guess. More self effort. More self effort, or is it regarded as some kind of transcendent savior force that is going to bless one and save one? . When I was a child, I used to go to school. I used to go to school. When I was a child, I used to go to school. So, you know how Sanjeevi Srimad-Bhagavad, and also Sanjeevi Aung Sipa,
[13:43]
In a certain sense it's both. In the sense that where we're starting from now Buddha is very different from what we are. We are not enlightened right now. And so there is a certain sense of appealing to something transcendent, to some force of power or source of blessing that will provide a liberating influence in your life, in your experience. Ultimately, the point is that you become Buddha. Not the Buddha Shakyamuni, but you become truly enlightened. But that starts with a dualistic framework, where you feel in your own situation that there is some force, some state of enlightenment greater than you, which you can draw upon as a means to attain that state of enlightenment yourself.
[15:22]
So it's really both. It's really both a dualistic framework, both a transcendence and an immanence in a sense, in that there's both the frame of reference for the beginner of Buddha as some external principle, with the understanding that ultimately it is something that you experience personally, that you become identical to the person. So thank you all very much for coming this morning, and we'll conclude with the formal prayer of dedication.
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