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Unity of Samsara and Nirvana
The talk explores the interdependent nature of samsara and nirvana, emphasizing their inseparability. A key argument is that nirvana cannot be realized separately from samsara, as both exist within the same intrinsic nature of mind, devoid of ignorance or duality. The discussion references traditional Zen and Vajrayana perspectives, highlighting the intrinsic emptiness and clarity that define true realization beyond conventional dualities.
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Rue Tandra (Jerusalem): Quoted to illustrate the simultaneity of samsara and nirvana in the present experience.
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Saraha's Teachings: Referenced to explain the non-duality of samsara and nirvana, asserting their unified nature.
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Nakajunis: Highlights the misunderstanding of those who perceive samsara and nirvana as distinct entities due to a failure to grasp their inherent non-dual nature.
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Buddhist Vajrayana Terminology: Discusses the inseparability of 'clarity' and 'voidness', key concepts in understanding the unity of samsara and nirvana.
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Chöjian and Chönyi: Explains the congruence between the characteristics and the absolute nature of reality, used within advanced practice levels of Yoga.
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It's talking about the view of the absolute nature of of the view that is in some kind of tradition which is samsara and nirvana is two in one so that is all right samsara and nirvana which is the which is the piece that is talking about nirvana, yirme, which is a linear differentiation.
[01:06]
That is also, here is a quote in the Rue Tandra, in Jerusalem. So that is quotationess. This particular, this situation, this moment, Nini is referring to this moment, this body, this mind, this experience of this moment is so-called samsara. And at the same time, this is also can be nirvana. And Nini says this part. this momentary situation of what this existence is nirvana and so therefore having there is nothing finding other other separately in nirvana by abandoning the samsara so you cannot do that you cannot find nirvana separately
[02:28]
Kora pangne, which means kora means samsara, pang means abandoning. So you cannot do that. So there is no realization separately as such existence of an yidvana beside samsara. And that is the thing here. Just said it. Right? Mm-hmm. And then, second line. And that's the last. And our common concept, law, That is the definition of the characteristic of that.
[03:34]
That is the basis of what the common people sees. This particular situation is the basis of samsara. That is the definition of the samsara, common people's perception, experiencing everything. is the samsara. That samsara, that which is, if you examined carefully, to completely examined, and detailed examined, then there's, once you examined That conception of a law, that particular samsaric mind, if someone is examined, then there is no momiji.
[04:40]
There is no actually ignorance. Momiji means that there is no darkness or dullness or ignorance. It is not as separate, it exists in that nature. As soon as that, So once you reach to that realization, then that is the one can also absorb. That is the which is Nirvana. Having seen that the Sigma is referring to here is the the buddhas you know when the buddha sees that the nature of that thing the meaning of that nature of that there is nothing it's saying is repeatedly that there is no other than that nirvana that there is no samsara definition of that samsara is not
[05:55]
there's no enhancing there's nothing is accomplished by itself to the meetings therefore when there's no accomplished by itself as a samsara therefore then the children quarrelation with the definition of this other than the samsara definition of samsara is the nirvana. I still cannot get that vocabulary, cannot find the chujian and chujian. Chujian is like a characteristic and the chujian is the intrinsic nature of that.
[06:59]
Like a table, the concept of table is chosen. And when your concept of table is examined completely, there is no solution or nothing is confined. Absolutely nothing is finding. By its stance, table nest is no longer there. Then it's called chunyi. You are beginning to see the chunyi of this table. In the absolute sense, there is neither of these definition or the intrinsic nature is not exist by its stance.
[08:04]
There is no, in absolute sense, neither of that doesn't have existence of that thing. So, therefore, it is called a kundayami. Or, it's from sara and nirvana two in one, So it's named, labelled by the Satyabha scholars, or the yogis, named for that is samsara nirvana, so two in one. Or, on the other hand, the gonzuk and tundam sungjuk, the gonzuk is the terminology for, there's two types of gonzuk and tundam. There is a, gonzuk is a kind of false, So the concept of a tandem cannot be separated from each other.
[09:07]
Therefore, it's called a two-in-one, sungju. So sungju, the meaning of sungju is bad. Is Yirme indistinguishable or inseparable? Yirme inseparable. Inseparable. Or sungju is a two-in-one. So that one is Yirme, it's a... They're both of the same meaning but different definition of words. Kunzop isn't conventional? It's actually false, no? Yeah, Kunzop is a conventional false. Kunzop is absolutely. Then again, that coded from the root down to that. Because of being ignored our own mind or my situation, they ignored.
[10:13]
Munch is ignorant. It becomes a samsatic aspect. One samsatic aspect. If there is no ignorance, that is pure. The samsatic is pure. Which is because of the mind? Mind. So zip chain is really... Everything, mind and matters, everything is, like, becomes, it starts with the mind, the perception, the conception, and then it begins to, and, therefore, samsara becomes, or tends to transform into nirvana.
[11:19]
Samsara becomes into nirvana. Budhichitta is also a nature of positive things. Budhichitta is also part of the nirvana. So that is a way to named by ancient scholars called to the part of the misunderstanding of the samsara is then you named Gunjo false conventional false truth and the one who has understood the samsara in nature of samsara then is the ancient scholars or yogis decided the name of the iglesia in the words is called absolute truth
[12:25]
that's generally the modifier of the aspects of the samsara and the nirvana. As I said that, here's some source. Could I stop for a second and ask you something? How is conventional or relative love the flip side of absolute love or the opposite or, you know, like two sides of a coin? The absolute truth is the compassion with the realization of the emptiness. Yeah. So, chikpere, except for realization of happiness?
[13:27]
Right. Conventional love to another is actually going to be true, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But the problem is everyone is beginning to see just... begin to kind of attach to the concept of love as a table, beautiful and grasping of that, or there's a table-ness, there's a love-ness, and there's a lot, really love is there. And realistically, generating the concepts are strong, and then once you The problem of that is once you get that and then you have trapped in it, and so you are grasping to it, right? That love is, you know, trying to catch it, and that's the problem.
[14:32]
Fear of losing it. Yeah, and once you get that, then it comes out of fear of losing it. And then when you lose it, you'll be very sorry about it, right? That's the good part of what I call the down conventional yeah the downfalls of conventional love is but if the yogis or the yoginis understood that loving kindness love there's nothing to be worried or not to be too clean on to it and then there would be more the understanding of emptiness that makes it their motivation will be the emotional will be different we usually get emotional about it love if you have a love mother's love for a baby we start to look for love all the time look for love all the time right and it's very difficult to get love but once you get so called love right between two or whatever
[15:45]
And you just had to grasp on it. Grasping, you know. That's why I'm not too grasping. Well, some people laugh, though. More than people, you know. Yeah, and so... Then he says, therefore... Since then, everything is like that. Therefore, ... [...] on the account, on the dependence of these two different types of notions, then objectively, you objective, objective, you just objectively based on the named samsara nirvana.
[17:07]
Just name it samsara nirvana. Also, you have a two different illusions. One is ignorance, the other one is awakening one. This is my dynamic style. You means objectively there is no separately, independently, there is no accomplishment. or stand for, objectively, any kind of nirvana or samsara, there's no... From that point of view of the self-nature, from that point of view of the objectively... Objective, buying confused and confused and calling them samsara and nirvana?
[18:12]
Love, for example, man loves woman, woman loves love, man loves relationship. The relationship, okay, that relationshipness by itself has no, so you, relationship has no. Wrong there. Watch out, that one. Relationship, that, nature of that, has no any entity of anything. That they do is that. What's tate? Tate is difference. Difference? Right. Tate is difference, right. So that might be no difference? Right. Yeah. And, uh, and, uh, maybe it's another way. You're not going to tate to be metos. Tate to be metos. Tate to be metos. Separately. Uh, independently. In other words.
[19:14]
Anything. Not wise or therefore, it also said, I think it's a Saraha referring to. Transition. Transition means kind of sage. Great sage. Great sage. Which means samsara is definitely nirvana, he says. The same thing and thinking about other than each other, that is not a proper way of thinking. By separating those two of them, it's not the correct way of thinking.
[20:16]
So you cannot separate the samsara from irvana, irvana from samsara. So therefore definitely it is just a natural, one nature, but it's maybe some different colors. Some kind of division, division. That's merely that. That which is that particular realization is stainless. To me means stainless. Stainless, flawless, pure nature of teaching or the experience of that is I understood very well. I understood, means I understood or realized, means very well, by me, Ngā Yi.
[21:26]
I understood that truly now. I realized now there are no differences between samsara and yinvāna. That is what Thamsi said. And then he says continually, yī yi tīn yin mīk pāng zhe. ... [...] realization or there's some kind of Mikpa Dange. Mikpa is a conception. Conception and the absolute nature of the mind has no dual, ni mi, or it is only an emptiness.
[22:38]
chikbu ni, tung ni chikbu ni, non dual. ni mi means non dual, no two. Two things. To me it's empty. To me it's empty. One. Chikpuyin. Chikpuyin means one. Only one. Only one. One. Chikpuyin. If you have samsara and yirvana split into two, then has era. Chikpuyin exists. Lots of alls. Dada Samsara and Nirvana is split into two. Then what's going to happen is a problem. Nanyangyo is a yogi. He is a meditating yogi.
[23:45]
Then another quotation from the Nakajunis said also. Well, around Nirvana's so-called Shri, these two, do they speak about when they don't see it? They talk about samsanda nidvana. What was just talk? It means talk. Oh, matong? Not see, not seeing. Matong means I'm not seeing it. [...] Matong means I'm talking. So-called samsara and nirvana, talking about two different types.
[25:14]
When the subject becomes a conversation or the The subject talking is samsara and nirvana, two different things talking about. That which is, you know, people who are not seeing the absolute. They talk about those people who are not able to realize the intrinsic nature of their two-in-one samsara. These people would talk about samsara and nirvana, two different things. And that is their problem. Those people who don't understand it, they will talk about that two things. Those people who understand those people who see the absolute darkness of that nature, then they will not accept two different things split into two in samsara and nirvana.
[26:19]
Yes, if the channel is explained furthermore in detail, then it's at the time of the teaching, three different types of teachings that are at the time of as teachings about the spontaneously born realization. that section or that chapter says the definition of the samsara is the clarity the definition of the nirvana is the nature of that is a void right in the Indian side.
[27:23]
So the Indian side is the side of Nirvana and also the clarity side of this is Samsara. These are terminology, you know, the Buddhist Vajrayana terminology. This is used for Vajrayana is the intrinsic nature of both of that clarity and the voidness is inseparable, cannot be separated. at the time of the practice level at the time of the practice then he's talking about the children and the children and the war
[28:55]
The terminology is slightly different. Children is the characteristic definition of its clarity. That is also samsara. And the true absolute nature of truth is emptiness. That is also Nirvana. And intrinsically, they're not differentiated. These two, Chöjian and the Chönyi, are no differences. Therefore, it is called a Sunjuk. Right? It's talking about the Chöjian and the Chönyi are no differences. Chönyi and Moho are all kind of technical terms. Chöjian and... Right. Yoga is practice level.
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