I vow to taste the truth of that habit of this world. After Tung Shan, by the way, when we chant the lineage in the evening, where it is Tozan Ryokai, where you come to. It's Dungshan. The Japanese way of pronouncing his name is Dungshan, Tozan, and Chinese way is Dungshan. And the name before that, Ungan Dojo, I think it is, is Yan Men, out of the broom sweeping. Yeah, and it's his, Ungarn's brother, Daowu, who is the guy who knocked the coffin.

[01:17]

If you can call him Uncle Dao. It's kind of your great uncle. Anyway, Dung Shan, after reciting the story of a national teacher, Wee Chung. The story, as I told you, is quite a bit longer and he finished reciting it. And Guishan said, the same teaching is here. But it's unusual to find someone capable of understanding. Aber es ist ungewöhnlich, jemanden zu finden, der in der Lage ist, zu verstehen.

[02:36]

And Dung Shan had the... Anyway, he said, Well, I don't understand it. Could you comment on it for me? Und Dung Shan sagte, Ich verstehe es auch nicht. Könntest du bitte einen Kommentar für mich abgeben? And, you know, teachers in those days, it was hot and there was no air conditioning, and they had whisks. They knocked the flies off like horses do. And they'd sit, you know, kind of... And this is derived from a backscratcher, and they also itched, and they'd say... It's called a teaching staff because it reaches anywhere.

[03:46]

So this guy, Guishan, is one of the most famous of all Roshis he raised when Dung Shan said, could you please comment for me? And Kueishan, who was one of the most famous roshis, he raised, when Dungsan asked, please give a commentary, he raised his waddle. And Dungsan said, I still don't understand, Venerable Kueishan, could you explain it for me? Guishan said, a mouth born of a mother and father will never explain it to you. But since I got this mouth somewhere else, I will try to say something. I found it, you know. It's been talking ever since. Yeah, so anyway, I can at least try to say some asides.

[05:10]

Hmm. Yeah. But first let me say, you know, many of you are... Well, yeah, many of you are doctors and therapists and, you know, like that. And when I talk about this... bodhicitta this thought of enlightenment for everyone or the ultimate benefit of everyone i know it for some of you sounds like sunday school And we mustn't get so sophisticated. We can't have such simple views.

[06:12]

And I said that for those of you certainly who are doctors and therapists, Your clients have to think that you have their best interests at heart. Maybe sometimes you don't. You just wish they'd quit complaining and leave and pay their bill. I've heard this before. But anyway, but still, the profession and your initial motivation had to be to help people. I remember when I was hiking in the mountains once in the early 60s and I said that I was with two people, a couple.

[07:20]

One was an artist and one was a sculptor. One was a poet and one was a sculptor. And I said, they asked me about practice and things, and I said, well, it comes down to really sincerity. And they spent the rest of the day laughing at me when I said that. And I was 12,000 feet out of breath. It was no fun. We were in Tuolumne Meadows in the Sierra. Where? Oh, it's nothing. It's a place in the Sierras. Near the Near Yosemite.

[08:38]

Anyway, this... I've said enough about that. Okay.

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