Celebration. And when these people listen to you, they listen to you. You know how when you're talking to your family or your friends even, they're busy trying to think how they're going to answer back to you while you're talking? Well, these people listen. And when they look at you, they look through your eyes. They don't stop at the eyes. They go clear through your eyes and it is the forever inside of here that talks to the forever that is inside of there. It is that intense. They taught me that sometimes now I actually have to stand back and say, oh, this is a Japanese man. Okay. Because sometimes what you're saying when you're talking to the forever, the person that you're talking to is talking very surface and you've got to get a handle on why, why are they saying what they're saying? Because you get so drawn into thinking in terms of forever, which is how these people think.

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But when I talked about birthdays, they listened to me intently. I'm talking about this cake, putting these candles on, getting another one each year. And they said to me, why would you do that? I said, well, you do that to celebrate getting older. But they said celebration is something special and everything gets older. It takes no effort to do that. It just happens. I said, well, if you don't celebrate getting older, then what do you celebrate? They said, well, we celebrate getting better. If I'm a better person this year than I was last year, then that's what celebrate. But it's I who know that I tell everyone it's time to have a party and they honor me because I have announced that it's time to celebrate me. When we talked about names, I said, well, parents name their child. And in our society,

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women sometimes change their last name when they get married. But now, you know, a lot of people are keeping the same name, you know, and they said, really? The parent names the child that would a name that would be appropriate for a hundred years or a hundred and thirty years. I said, do you really come up with a name that would be appropriate for a hundred and thirty years? I said, no, not really. You know, Butch would really rather be something else when it gets to be this governor or whatever, but we do the best we can, you know. I said, well, what do you do? They said, well, they named their babies whatever would be appropriate for the first maybe four or five years. And then the child gets to name themselves anything they want to be. And everyone honors that. And usually the name has to do with what the

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child is interested in or the first of their talents, because they are thoroughly convinced that every human being on planet Earth are multi-talented. Everyone in this room is a healer. Everyone in this room is a leader. Everyone in this room is a follower. Everyone is a musician. Everyone is an artist. Everyone is a storyteller. Everyone is a cook. And they said to me, if you don't sing because you don't think you can sing, that does not diminish the singer within you. It is still there whether you honor it or not. And so you might have a four-year-old kid who said, it's time to have a party. And they would turn to this kid at the party and say, what is your new name? And the kid would say, interested

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in wood. And from then on, that's what you call him. Interested in wood. And anybody who's ever done anything with wood is available to help this child. But rule number one in their society is, you cannot feed anyone who is not hungry. So you may have all of this wonderful wealth of information, but you keep your mouth shut until someone asks you for it. When they ask you for it, then they're ready to be fed. Then they're interested. And then you can say. And so just a couple of weeks after that, then the kid would say, it's time to have a party. And they would say, and what is your new name? Because now the kids decided specifically what the interest in wood is. So they would announce their new name. And the name could be Boomerang Maker. And then anyone who'd ever made any boomerangs

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at all, had anything to do with it, is available to help this child. But a part of that is helping the child express themselves in their own unique and their own creative way. So that it isn't a copy of what everybody else has done. So that everybody has self-worth and self-esteem and creativity and expression and so forth. And after a while, this kid would say, it's time to have a party. And then you would ask him, and what is your new name? And the kid would say, Super Duper Whiz Bang Number One Boomerang Maker. Because in their society, you promote yourself. No one knows when you are promotable. You know when you are. You tell the people and the people celebrate and honor what you say about yourself. So to these people, they think that we have a lot of knowledge in our society. You can

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go to the library and read all of these books and come out and have all of this knowledge. But that doesn't mean you have an ounce of wisdom. Because to them, wisdom is the application of knowledge. And sometimes the widest thing to do with some piece of knowledge that you have secured is not to do anything with it. Not to act upon it at all. So they are not really so much into knowledge as they are into wisdom. They spend their whole life changing their names, getting to be better and better people, going through all of these talents and their lifespan usually is approximately 130 years. They have no difference between males and females. Anyone who wants to cook and express that can express it. They could at any time, someone could say it's time to have a party and you ask them what their new name is and they'd say, I'm the leader. And anybody can be a leader. You can have five

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leaders at one time. If you want, you can have no leader. You can be a leader for an hour and a half and decide you don't want to do that anymore and have another party. In their society, you could have a kid who would say on Monday, my name is Toolmaker. On Tuesday it's Interested in Cooking. On Wednesday it's Musician. On Thursday it's Storyteller. On Friday it's Healer. And in our society, you would say to this kid, I'm not paying one ounce more of tuition until you decide what you want to be. In their society, they would say what an interesting person to be interested in so many things. When their babies are born, for 50,000 years they have greeted every single human being

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who was ever born in their society in the same way. Everybody hears the first human words that are always the same. Every baby that is born hears very first of all the words, we love you and we support you on the journey. When they get ready to die 130 years later, everyone hugs them and the last words you hear are the same words you heard when you came in. We love you and we support you on the journey. Because you see, they believe in forever. They said to me probably 500 times when I was with them, Mutant, do you understand how long forever is? It's a long, long time. It's eternity. We had to burn time off of your arm. We're not sure

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anyone who wears time on their arm understands how long forever is. It is a long, long time. And I would say, yes, I understand. And they would say, are you sure? And I would say, yes, I'm sure I understand that. Okay. If you understand that, then we can tell you something else. You see, they said you are forever and we are forever. We come from forever. We go back to forever. This is only a little short time in forever. It's only 130 years out of forever. And it seems like the mutants have taken it all out of context and believe that it's really important that forever depends on this 130 years. So everything that they do is done in terms of

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forever rather than this 130 years. They go through altered levels of consciousness. Like you and I would go to the mall and go in and out of the JCPenney store and the drugstore and whatever. That is precisely how these people go through altered states of consciousness. And when I talked to them about that, which would be like our meditative state and on beyond that, they said to me, but if you believe you are forever and you're going to be away from forever on a trip for 130 years, wouldn't you want to call home once in a while? Hey, that's all it is, is just tapping in to the home base. Makes perfect sense to them. They believe in our society that people who are reformed alcoholics are further along the spiritual

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path than goody two shoes in a little box who will not look beyond that box. Because they say the craving for that is an inter-spiritual message coming to you that says there is a realm of reality beyond what I see and what I am experiencing here. The trick to it is that when you do it with alcohol or drugs, you can't control the trip and you get some bad stuff. When you finally figure out how to tap into that other consciousness and other reality and don't have to use those things, then you always have a good trip. People have questioned me about the healing episode that I talk about in the book where the man broke his leg. I was questioned by an orthopedic group of physicians at the Kansas University Medical Center and they said to me, are you saying

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that this man's bone was instantly healed? And I said, no, you'd have to have a before and after x-ray to prove that. I can only tell you that they stood there in the morning and said if it is in the highest good for all of life everywhere, we are open to the experience of allowing the mutant to see our healing. They did not know if that would happen or who it would happen to or what would happen, but you see this is how they live their lives. They ask every day. They anticipate that every day, but they have never taken it for granted. When it happens, and it happens every single day, just like clockwork, they get genuinely excited that what they ask for happens again today. We're going to eat again today. We get what we ask for

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again today. And it isn't phony. It is absolutely sincere. And I watched them and I thought, geez, you know, in our society, people want to win the lottery. And if you won the lottery today and got $10 million and you went back and bought another ticket tomorrow and you won $10 million again and you went back the next day and bought another ticket, do you really think 10 years down the road that you would be that excited about winning $10 million or would you send somebody else down to buy your ticket? You know? But these people are genuinely excited. And so they ask the world and this is how they preface things. If it's in the highest good for me, if it's in my highest good and the highest good for all of life everywhere, I am open to this experience, but I don't want it if it's not in the highest good.

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And so what happened was the guy fell off the edge of a cliff and broke his leg and they set the bone. And then they took the tissue and tarred it shut. They had no sutures. They had no bandage at all. They just tarred this thing shut with old dry blood that looked like a tar of some kind. But the thing about it is, is that you have to understand in their society, everybody's a healer, including the man who broke his leg. They may not all have experienced the talent of being a healer, but they all know that they are healers. No one has ever told them you have complications when you break legs. It takes weeks for these to heal. You see, their experience was that they said it, they talked to the bone. Everybody in that group was talking to the bone when they were working

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with us. They were all saying, gee, bone, we really appreciate your going along with what we ask for today, that you would be the gift that we ask for today. And now all of us are here to support you in getting well. And bone, have we got an opportunity for you. Because you can do something that no other bone in this body has ever done. You can go back and be stronger than you ever were before. And we thank you for that. So when they tarred that thing shut, that was the end of that experience, period. There was no point in rehashing it. There was no point in talking about how catastrophic it was or looking for it day after day or whatever. That was the end of that experience. They believe that time is not a linear

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thing. That time is a circular thing. That's why they greet their people when they come in and they say the same words when they leave. They think in our society we have all of these frayed edges in our circles of time. That we walk away from people with hatred and resentment and all of that kind of stuff, which to them are frayed edges. So for them, they believe that we come here for an emotional experience. That's why we have the bodies that we have. This is the only planet, it's the only place that has a nervous system like we have. It's the only place that you can feel things. If they have a child who is angry because they're trying to make something and put it together and it doesn't go together and so the kid gets angry, they would never tell their child don't act that way. They think it's very important to feel anger. How else can you later on decide that

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you're going to deal with something and not be angry because angry is not fun and it doesn't feel good. It feels better to do something in a peaceful way. They believe that we come here to learn how to love but that we don't understand love. We think there's such a thing as non-love. They say if you ever love somebody and now you don't love them, then call it something else because it wasn't love in the first place. Love has no strings attached and they believe that the closest that we can come to love is with a car. That you can really fall in love with a car and you polish it and you take care of it and you take it to the mechanic and even when it gets some rust on it, hey you still love the car and it gets so old that it doesn't run anymore and they have to take it to the junkyard and when they're pulling it out of your driveway, this massive junk,

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you still absolutely love that car but you cannot do that with your spouse. When they start getting rusty and their tires go flat and they're unreliable because you turn on the ignition and it doesn't turn on, then we cannot accept them without conditions and they think that is really a part of what we're here for is the emotional experience of understanding those kinds of things. I could go on and on and on telling you about these people, they are absolutely the most incredible people I think that there are on planet earth. Their whole philosophy of how they live their lives and every single thing that they do, talking about children and their influence in children. An example would be that in their

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society you might have a baby, say an 18-month-old baby who was playing with a toy and in their society a toy would be a rock with a string on it and so you've got a little kid who's pulling this toy and you have another 18-month-old baby who sees that and wants to take it and goes to take it but what would happen is that when the child went to take that, everybody in the group would turn and look at them because their primary method of communication is mental telepathy which is done from your heart and your head and the little 18-month-old baby would recognize that, hey, you can't just take things from people, you have to ask permission. So two lessons are really learned. Number one is that the kid learns he's got to ask permission, you can't just take things from other people but the primary lesson that learned from that is the kid who has the toy because the

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value of the thing is how you feel about it. Once you have had this feeling of it's fun and you're in charge and you're in control of this, you can give this thing to anybody else so that they can feel that same way and when you're 90 years old, if you want to feel that, all you have to do is go inside of you and feel that way. So they have no attachment to material objects at all. When I saw them playing music, they made musical instruments out of whatever was there. I saw them break off little chips of rock and take my hair and hang these rock from it and make like musical wind chimes out of this. I saw them take reeds out of the ground and tie these things together and fine

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tune them until they had like a harmonica and when they were done with this concert, they dismantled everything and they thanked it. They thanked the reeds. They thanked the rocks. They put them back where they had been and they talked to them and they said to them, we know that for a rock, it must be a wonderful thing to have an experience of not having to hang on the wall for another three million years before you got another vantage point of the world. And so we give you this gift of laying you in a slightly different position that would have taken that rock millions of years to get to. And so they thank the rock and they lay it there. And for them, being a musician is within you. You take it with you. To me, I mean, this was hilariously funny because not too long ago in Kansas City, I paid $35 to go to a musical concert and they had to cancel it because this guy's piano

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didn't arrive from New York. Kansas City is a very large city, but we did not have a piano in that place that this guy could play his musical instrument. And I laughed all the way out of the lobby. I'm sure the people thought I was smoking marijuana or something. But to me, it was just a hoot. I thought somebody ought to tell this guy. I'd like to close and then we're going to have a break and you can buy the book and I'll be glad to sign it for anybody who wants. And if there's any questions, I'd be happy to stay and answer anything. Any questions? But I would like to close this really by saying for you the prayer, the ritual that they said for me on the day that I walked away from them. When I left these people, I was a street person. You see, I left these people

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and I felt beautiful with them. I had no idea that I was as hideous as I was until I saw myself in a window. I hadn't had a bath this entire time. I was still wearing the same rag. My hair was growing out. At this point, I now had actually a hoof that had developed on the bottom of my feet from blistering all of this stuff. And so I walked back into the city and I was a beggar. I couldn't do anything until I begged. And I remembered a specific incidence where a woman came up to me begging for money and I remember turning to this lady and saying, no, I'm not giving you any money. I know you would just take it and buy booze with it and you don't have to be a beggar. You could do something. You could clean toilets. You could do something. You don't have to live like this. I remember that woman's face so plain when I walked up to this

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man and literally held out my hands and said to him, you know, I can't function unless somebody helps me. Do you have any spare change? Can you help me? And so I'm here to tell you that whatever you need, the universe will provide for you. It's just that it's easier to learn it another way. This guy held his nose and held out his hand and I took some change and I went to a phone booth and I called back to the clinic and they were very upset with me. I've been gone four months. They had not called the authorities because what happened was that the man who owned the jeep that we went out in originally was an aborigine man. And he was told that either they'd bring his jeep back that night or if I decided to go with him, then he had to go get his jeep.

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And if he did that, he was to call the same telephone number that they called originally and tell them that's precisely what he did. He dialed the number and he said, Marlo's gone on a walk about bang. So they knew I was out there with aborigine people. I had had a, an aborigine company, so they knew that I was in good hands, but walk about means we don't know when she's coming back. And I was on a project that no one else could do. They had to wait for me to do it. So when I got to this phone booth and called them, they were very upset and they said, we will send some money to the Western Union, take your identification there. And I said, I don't have a piece of paper, but I'm identifiable. There's no two like me. So I told them what to look for. And when I walked into the Western

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Union place, the woman had a Lysol can and she sprayed me, she sprayed the counter. She sprayed the money. She sprayed me all the way out. So then I took the money and got a taxi and I went to a Target store and the people all stood back in the Target store. And I ran in and I went over and I grabbed some slacks and a blouse and a toothbrush and, and a big bottle of shampoo. And I forgot people wore underwear. I didn't buy any underwear. And I forgot about pockets. I didn't buy anything with pockets. So I just stuffed my money down like this. And then I went to a motel and the taxi driver said, I don't think they'll let you in here. And I said, well, you know, I'm going to hold my money out there and you wait for me. So that's what I did. And money talks, you know, and I said to this lady, I've been in the bush and I really need to get cleaned up. And it was like, yes, you really need to go. So she gave me the key and, and I went into, uh, uh, the motel room and I went into

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the bathroom and I started a ritual that day, a ritual that I have continued to do every single day since this happened three years ago. People ask me about the Aborigine rituals. Did you see any of their female rituals or their male rituals and will you teach them to us and so forth? And I say to them, you know, the Aborigines would tell you that a ritual is only as significant as the people who do it. And for the purpose that they do it, that you really need to create your own rituals rather than trying to learn somebody else's. And what happened was that I walked into this bathroom and I saw the toilet there. And I,

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