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there are some more seats as their chairs especially there's no some of the front row

well am i think we used to do i used to do in the to do some kind of movement thing now is that usual
talk talk now
you can do i like to get up with
no

thank you

you really i'm in the chart next
that
so first arrived and i would i do unless let you know that my movie's premiere in february eleventh at the berlin film festival
please send you wanna fly over
where are the premier
run an english it's gonna be called how to cook your life
i didn't know what it's gotten german
bedtime there's german filmmaker doris i decided i am asked if i would be willing to make a movie on zen mr duggan's instructions to the cook and i said sure why not and them so we started in austria and and they them
didn't ask you and i said as america can we be in austria and during lectures on duggan's instructions to the cook and cooking classes
and she said oh well i live in minute gets a two hour drive that's easy we can come down to that and tell me there and then they also came over here and found it as an ironic green gouging
so don't go into my neighbors in fairfax to the know hasn't shopped for groceries for it more than two years because is no
visits day
when has you covered the
the convenience kitchen or something anyways otherwise known as dumpsters but soon as a better word for it and their house you know it's kind of rundown on it it's called taj mahal

so but it's hard to know who all is gonna find the end up in the movie because i haven't and i haven't seen any of it but they yeah they took about sixty hours of film and ten them to ninety five minute movie home
i haven't seen any of it so i haven't seen
readers caps and you're really good on camera and and she was telling me that so much been is a just tell us to all the guys doors
so they relax man anyway
so with the name
from well there
the test or bread book was the first but the more recent one was tomato blessings in railway stages
and which is out of print now and i've got the right specs and i'm going to rewrite it as go gives instructions to the cook and sell it again
that'll teach those publishers to give up on my book
a seldom and number all those people who didn't want a reprinted in all this other publish it in my reprinted now they'll pay now that guy

it's strange i just was going i'm living my life and suddenly i'm in the movie
it is it's it's very strange and know i didn't do anything
well we'll see you know it's it depends on its it needs to get a distributor know you can hear
but it might come in i'd like to marine yeah maybe you know even if it didn't have a distributor maybe it can come to the nobel its own festival or something
i say

so i thought i'd talk with the a little bit tonight about duggan's instructions to the cook
since its on my mind and
i'm one of the things and one of the first things that does mr durkan says and you know them as to jurgen lived in the thirteenth century
and he
it was japanese and then he in his early twenties went to china to studies in
and was in china for four years and then came back to japan and he's considered to be the founder what's known as the soto's and scrub out of japanese then
the such as girl is the one that we don't do the doesn't do cohen on steady and are particularly know what is the sound of one hand clapping now i got distracted
i re read recently john willem van veterans than the veterans brooke you know he was dead and years ago he did a book or the empty mirror and another one glimpse of nothingness and they were quite popular back in the sixties or seventies in
more recently he was a little book called after then
and there it's a it's a charming and yet strange that a bug
but it starts out cons are overrated
but then the next sentence is
a clerk at the stornoway was shop and used to say
don't even know and so he was he was intent on saving you know always was be curbed
and so my practice isn't that good
n
but i'm you know for the
fruit from my trees i do that
you know i have three apple trees in to pear trees and the three aperture is especially this year almost every apple has whatever is causing mods or something isn't it i tried putting out this in our traps for the caitlin mas
but it as it last spring in their just rain and in own so
am
i would have had to put the traps out at different times of the chaps are still good when the cob and knowing you have to if you studied about these things you know just when the kazimierz come in you put the trips out of the right time but so all my apples have you know credit them but i'm using them i'm choosing them and i've been cutting out the mods or just talk to your friend she said oh when i was
is growing up which has put the whole apple into the choosers
you get them more protein and you know whatever that way and very flavorful
i'm so i'm endeavoring notes have endeavored years all the fruit from my trees
which is in regrets come into my life center
even though i can't save all the progress in the supermarkets
i'm but it's interesting you know some some supermarkets
i think for instance no good earth
ah if i'm not mistaken you know from time to time or maybe a daily basis know they send food as to whoever it is

this is no no this is about business
so let's toss it and that's not that anybody have it and let's lock up the dumpsters so that nobody can get at them and cetera and that's not and that's not take the food any place that they could use it and they'd be willing to take it let's not do that let's not do any of that it's gotta go to waste because that's business bottom line
so it's interesting he yeah
you can turn her
yeah
for her
know

this is this is if this is a perfect example of did you know what she said she said i use a lot of paper towels way too many paper towels and i've been trying for years to use for your paper towels and it seems like if i'm using this many paper towels it it can't be like i can see
them that process and i'm just using the and tossing them
and but this is a good example of well yeah this is something you can study what would be in our study the way to use your paper down so it's a it's a study in know and so it's you you arouse your capacity to find the way to do this to use for your baby down
and then
so you can you can try various things no i don't know i i used and in those friendships
and
there's various things about sponges you know i've studied these things
because i know i have some sponges that are only for the disease and and cengiz for the floor
and learn different places and then what i used suspended from the sink or the other sponges when i'm done i rang them out
when you come to my house i explain this to
sorry to say
and because in our
no one in the people don't use friends is when you give to their house and then with his friends with scrapping reading this thinking you have to pick up a saffron read spends in his cardinals are wed and them if it's cold and i were like that it probably snow too
and the no i don't want to use that sponge either so my sponges i've tried them out and and sometimes i set them in the window in the sun
and you know so i study these things you know and similarly in i studied like
plastic bags
can i probably by the time i die i will lives i will have saved in a thirty thousand plastic bags
twenty thirty thousand and plastic bags because i know i think fit vigour estimate you know you know minimum in our ten plastic bags a week as five hundred plastic bags a year that's five thousand every ten years
i don't know you know whatever i don't know the mathematics in a way you know

the store like this huge grocery bag of yeah well you've taken the plastic bags news that of just stuffed them in there you can't he can't walk around like with some huge trash bag of plastic bags around the grocery store you know so i have a little plastic bag and it's further plastic and so
i don't know in namibia stupid you know
read i figure and m you know maybe economically it doesn't even make sense i'm using you know water and you know i'm watching the thing so that's energy you know but i'm not it's not like oil exactly the way that you know manufacture plastic bags and but you know most day in our paper
is it just toss them
i guess is a plastic bag why would you know you just toss it
and that's but that's again you know because you know this is about money
and and value becomes about money rather than know how do you treat something you know as though it's worth something there has been value
sewing i take this sponge gentleman i'm down with this bunch i bring it out as in arkansas studied this
no
and to me it's sort of like a no brainer
no ring out the sponge when you're done
but i don't know how otherwise how do you clean it up in our you take paper towels you just something else
and i've been in people's houses you nowhere and mean it again even years ago
curtis in his house and you know they say well reds and i say well in a on a cook or something for you they don't have a nine
they don't have a pet

how even if the
they never pending for you don't have an added
hey you need to get the stable where do i need you know how do i know him
new york the things that something else we work at guiding you figure things out as you go along
and you know part of the stooges than am
that's partly
you know are certainly our tendency and this is true like just organisms
gregory bateson for instance in ecology of the mind or whatever it's called one of his books you know organisms very simply are designed to maintain and perpetuate themselves
so the main features of organisms
and you know and a and so there's nothing wrong with you know perpetuating yourself in a sort of you know as a been it's perpetuating this self
we we talk about in buddhism that's a problem right and that's because in or art the sense of self is the fact that have and
and which ones are you
how expensive identify with the as here and then had you keep the receive benefits you and give you a better price and the docker that
have you go down
what i think we'd be preserved organisms are designed to prevent for that third preventing says loss of to take in
step in the world
they are taken in yeah
food and also taking his experience
you turn that into you
how do you go to the road taken in the world and during the year and continuing to live
it turns out did and the how you know where americans days with that was
so we can to stay in the area of our expertise and what we already know how to his and we're not going to move into the air will be found them at zero
the idea
when we when you're like
you know the appropriate for instance everybody wants to going to have nobody wants to dive
right
matt how are you gonna learn to do something they don't know how to do
where you want to stick to doing things the way boys tend them
so you're not gonna learn how to do something if you stick to doing things the way boys then they be going to have to try out some things that might work in my network and in a fine the way to do something that you didn't know how to do
and so you give yourself that opportunity it's important to give yourself that are pretending to find out how to do something that you don't know how to do and be willing to have that kind of a problem with difficult in your life
and you know you all do that by showing up here and you know meditate and because nobody knows how to do this need you know i do not do this
so this already is doing something then you can sort of think you know what you're doing
and it works for awhile and then some point it doesn't fit the
i am it's about eight o'clock so
we're going to call an end to the evening and thank you so much for being hearing ah
as many you know i liked
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