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Tradition Meets Tourism in Peru

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The talk explores the intersection of tradition and tourism in Peru, highlighting the contrast between urban and rural areas and the socio-economic impact of tourism on local communities. It details experiences in various Peruvian locations, noting the duality of modern conveniences and traditional lifestyles, and reflects on the implications of tourism for economic opportunities in these regions.

  • No specific texts are directly referenced within the transcript. However, the discussion centers on real-world observations and personal experiences related to tourism and cultural interaction in Peru.
  • The dialogue includes personal narratives and reflections rather than referencing external scholarly works or specific academic authors, focusing on firsthand experiences and insights.

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all right so um true olivia told me where you guys went and he said what you did but um it's like what was fun about it and what was not fun about it and so sorry i'm just Fun's always the right word. I mean, the most interesting part, there are parts that are actually really interesting. And it was like, fun to be fine. And I think that's like, the most beautiful thing I was saying is, is that, [...]

[01:02]

city we see a great top of some steepest where in the city divide how we will be at the best day at the center center and to be there and we see all the nice touristy restaurants and we go out you know three walk and see this is sister which like you know wait to go just there simply get us you go get It's like orange juice from the side of the road. There's a circuit. You see that markets for the touristy markets are a little hard to fast at first. It's like markets for the people who are there and then like... I had no idea that it was that popular.

[02:05]

Yeah, I mean, you went from literally nice old colonial style Spanish buildings to a billion texts set up with tons and tons and tons of merchandise everywhere. In every corner there was a sheet of people trying to rob you left and right. And a little old lady tried to rob me. I thought it was, like, a joke. I'd, like, take some stuff back. I was, like, okay. I guess I just, I've... It's... And people rob you because they need the money. They're not robbing you. They want your cool stuff, you know, like, whatever. Yeah, I remember, like, when I went to P1 the last year, it was, like, you're on one side of the corner. It's, like, what you're used to. And then, so, I mean, it's, like, you get just across the corner, like, through it. Just these shots, you know, for miles. Yeah. I mean, how can that put this next to each one else? Yeah. Or, I mean, it's a bit more devastating. I don't know if it's devastating.

[03:05]

It's actually really interesting. But, like, we went to Atlanta and it was just a small town. But it's a small town with internet cafes. I guess large major tours. But nonetheless, I mean, they're native to the internet. We have phone lines and push the toilets and stuff. And then, you know, we hop on the back of the truck. They go up in the mountains. I went through the Andes up to a village, like, probably a half hour ride up back to the tower. And then you're in a little village that lives the same way they did during, you know, you know, electricity, you know, real plumbing, where everyone does little straw cuts that they don't have their attention to something inside. That's lots of smoke, so. I feel like you're in the middle of Nashville, too, that thing.

[04:07]

Yeah, Olivia was saying, like, it's stuff that you see in pictures, and it's like, yeah, cool, but that's... Yeah, actually, I mean, I didn't experience that much. I'm so high to sit. But, yeah. I mean, people, like, when I was like, oh my god, these traditional costumes, they're like, that's not even the right word for them. That's what they wear, everything. I was, like, so colorful, and I was, like, red, so, like, it's a big brown, a green brown, like, red top, and we wear, like, if you want to get the weird dress. That's really beautiful. They're beautiful. Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's like coming at the corner, like, smelling really awful, like, Like, you know what I mean? Like, the point where you're just kind of like, OK, it's all going to go away. I'm going to get over it a little bit. They just do that. But yeah, eliminate us out of a rock.

[05:07]

Just watch. Like, I got a lot down, like, the only streets, I guess. And having said, look like. like, straw over, like, curbs, I think, like, yeah. So, she was saying, like, a lot, basically, a lot of it involves, right? Like, from what you're saying. Like, yeah, basically, the internet company is tourism. Did you feel like it was just so that any, We're used to that. It's obviously that you think we're being perceived in a certain way. Well, that's nice. See, I don't think it's down all of the tourists side of it. Because however much you try to avoid if you are tourists or a Spanish. Yeah. I mean, it's nice to meet new people down there.

[06:11]

So they do things that weren't necessarily guidebooks. But I mean, like going to the town, I was like, she's supposed to sleep there like that night. So probably walked her. It's the entire town. Like every single business town. There's a question about that. Like there's the landslide. There's a landslide walking. I think you read about it, though. by Machu Picchu. We're in a town close to it, ready to go to Machu Picchu. So that's the last night that I killed 11 people. And it's crazy to walk over the house that was on the tracks. But I killed 11 people, and in their, like, last of the day, I was like, 20 people around.

[07:15]

For 11 people, you die. And it just But it really, really looks like what is their own software that's so hard. As opposed to, like, the 40 people who are trying to get you to go to the restaurant as you would, like, walk on, you know, the main restaurant of your strip. You know, it just seems so disproportionate. And, I mean, I wish you had, I know we have a photograph in the back, but you walk up this main strip out of these restaurants and Every single restaurant, every single restaurant has the exact same thing. But, like, I mean, it all looks, it's all kind of fake and nice. It's all good, so. But, I don't know if it's broken, but it's all trying to look so nice. And then the back is like, it's just shack, built on top of shack, built on top of shack. And you add a cement thing on top.

[08:16]

It's like, there's an earthquake prior to having it. You have to wonder, like, if the tourism was something happened with bubble hairs. Yeah. And people went to wonder, well, I'm saying do that. See, I'm not seeing it. And the tourism went down to your economy. And well, I don't know. I mean, it was like that. It was entirely about tourism. And if you give money to people, like, buy these things, but like, what can you do to make yourself sufficient or have exist economically without the . It's not convenient. I mean, they brought eight painters, so they brought industry into Lima, which is accessible to some of the most. But Lima was awful and barren, and they should bring the poor,

[09:17]

industrial look, but in absolute worst way, the game, empty. I have never seen such a dead large city in my life. Like, it was like shocking. I was like, where is everyone? It was like, yeah, and the first one, like, you have to buy it. Yeah, it's, yeah. I mean, I know it's an awkward, but like, you have to impress people. Yeah, so it's like, how do you do that? Like, how do you do that in a way that's not like, OK, we're coming in to help you.

[10:20]

Yeah, I mean, we're posing on something. Yeah. Like, I don't know how much . But how do you do it in life? Yeah, I mean, there's several people who are in, like, smaller villages that you said goodbye. And this is also, you know, . Entirely. Getting them animals. People who have animals who live up in these villages are really, you know... And there's stuff like... There's like little... groups that help in certain places. Even that though, it's like immediate relief for a holiday. building a tree. That's not all the fact that there's no family income or that there's no, you know, existence built where they came about.

[11:27]

There's not, you know. Have you talked to a lot of people there? I mean, I know. Yeah, it was nice because I spoke Spanish. It was tough because a lot of it was, you know, like a little bit separate something to you. Like, I'll be nice to you. Just like, you know what? I just don't want to talk to you too, you know? But it was nice to touch with me down there. Touched them a lot. I just got a buddy of the world that didn't understand Spanish at all as well. It's kind of hard to understand Spanish. It's cool that they got so fast and all that stuff. And it's weird to see a few reps. Okay. What should I say? I am the plague again.

[12:28]

Yep. [...] Do well on the Spanish AP. Thank you. No. I know. I read that. I know. It's so wonderful. I was thinking about how I would probably be telling this also. Hello. Join him. But he said, he said I wasn't worried about getting kicked out of the library, only about getting kicked out of NYU, because I love that. There, let's talk about it. What? He's giving you things against you. Is it for the injury that you have? I guess. Let me. And then he's like, yeah, I

[13:43]

Oh my god, it was so weird. Oh my god, it was so weird. I was like, no, do you think anyone can ever figure that out? No. But it's not what we tried for, to get all out. And then I started talking about reaching your fauna. Like, I was like, but if we can't, what's the point of looking at it? If we have, like, a meaning of life, figuring it out, and it's not what we always want, and it's not why they say it's like, but, like, uh, they say, [...] they say and all the while I was trying to write my biography for it. I don't know if it's going to test it, so... Yeah.

[14:52]

If it doesn't work, you know, like... How do you do it? Probably remember. Okay, so, what parts of the parks that you visit? Like, was it in the city, the country, all in the place? Uh... We flew into Lima and we only spent one night there. So basically we drove through at like 1 o'clock in the morning and left at 7 in the morning. So we only stayed at the hotel, really didn't see that much. Then we flew to Grishka. Lima's the capital of Peru and we sort of like the capital of, it's like a chicken capital. Oh, we went there, and that's... Oh, wait, I forgot. Did you want to get one interview? Oh, no, we were just, we figured, like, I was going to do you guys together. Oh, good. When I hadn't started. Um, I'll guess, like, what part of the party? Right. That's what we were speaking, you know.

[15:54]

I thought. So, you, uh, first you went to Lima, but, like, only for a little while, and you went with me there. yeah it's good it's it's like a bunch of cities have i mean it's not very convenient yeah it's not a very convenient place so it's it's not like a center of industry or commerce or anything but it is where the colonial empire was set up and it is really because we're set up and it's historically it's very cool so is it is it Like a big city or a rural? It's sort of a big city. It's a pretty big city, but not... It's a big city, but because it's so poor, you go to parks and it looks great, you know? There is countryside. You go up and buildings... It's not... That's not what I call them to get a big city out there.

[16:57]

It's a different kind of big city. We also spent time going to... So, and you guys were there for what? Um, I only, I had like these horrible dad cats. What sort of things could you do that it's like, what, what's that kind of cool day or, um, but should, do you want to do them separately? Because I feel like we're going to like cut off each other's like, together. Okay. Um, I'll say this better than anything. It's okay, you can be inside. So, we did a lot of different stuff.

[18:02]

When we first came in Lucuzco, we stayed in the city and we basically walked around and looked at a lot of the stores. We met some people who lived there. That was really cool. A couple days later, we took a taxi on it off to Oyan Clayton Bowl, which is a city that has a train going to Machu... It had a train going to the city right outside of Machu Picchu, so we stayed there. It's the, like, closest accessible city to Machu Picchu that you can get to by a... Something that you take a train and get... So, suppose you end up with me without doing the Machu Picchu thing. Well, we stayed there for a while.

[19:04]

And we did a trip to Machu Picchu with us, like, four days. And then about... Sorry. That's not going to be bad. That's what happened. I'm just proud. Um, so you guys were saying, like, to Kelzman? Yeah, we stayed relatives. No, we don't have any relatives. There was people that my aunt knew. Oh. She'd been there before. And then we stayed in hostels. And they were really pretty hostels. But, um, they had, like, yeah. Oh. And so we were, we did our whole trip to Monterey Beach was sort of in four or five days. And then we... We came back to Cusco, and we basically went to markets there, hung out with some other people, and did some shopping.

[20:09]

Yeah. Oh, so you said you hung out, like they didn't need to be living, My aunt had done that before, so she knew some people that, well basically her friend was supporting our family and so she went to go visit them and we ended up hanging out with them. Okay. [...] Yeah. Yeah. So just like similarities, differences, probably very, very in the United States.

[21:16]

It's what stood out. It was really different. More so than I started. It was really sad to go there. It was really sad when we had to go there because they were crying to me. It's right based on tourism. And these people are really, they're just really bored. And it's really, and you just, I don't know, you look at their opportunities, it's really sad because, like I met a girl and she's going to school for tourism, you know, to learn how to go on streets. And it's really, it was just really sad to think that that was from any opportunity, you know? Like, I'm sitting here thinking, oh, what a wonder how to be when I grow up. And the best opportunity that she had is to work in the tourism industry.

[22:18]

And you think, you know, that must suck if that's not what you want to do, you know? I mean, and that's, I mean, and that's the fact. Most people don't even have that opportunity. That's really sad. She was, like, relatively fortunate. Yeah. She was, like, really fortunate, so. Yeah, and then there's, like, And then you're going shopping, too, and you're buying these intricate, I know, fabrics that people make by hand, and they're like, they're going to be only like $5, you know? And it's just really sad. Yeah. So just basically, yeah. But it's not sad. It's really sad from the standpoint I'm coming from. But then also, like, you also look at the way these people form communities and how, you know, close-knit they are.

[23:19]

And that was really nice. Yeah. That was what amazed me, like, when I was here last year. Like, at first, you're just, like, blowing your way back up. Where everything was incredible. And then you start going to, like, Yeah, there's all this stuff you can see, it's like huge separation from your left hand, but then there's like all these, like, meanings they have, and just like, how everyone knows each other in every way, you know, with everything. I mean, it's not like, you know, okay, I don't know how to do that. It was like, there was a lot of people who sold on the streets, like sold postcards, the young kids, people who, like, I mean, little girls who were six years old asking for, to get paid to take a photograph or something, or take my age. And it's really sad, but then it's also, I mean, they're with, it's interesting because it's like, it's with all their friends and sort of hang out. It's sad and, I don't know.

[24:21]

It's a very different way of living. How do you think you were, like, seen or treated or, like, perceived as an American or, I mean, as a therapist or, like, how did it feel, like, It's hard to tell because I got the feeling sometimes because their economy is so based on tourism, I got the feeling that it's... I thought, well, maybe, you know, these people are just really nice to me because they know my, you know, business. And, I mean, it seemed like they were genuinely nice. Yeah, it seemed like... Hi! Watch out! It seemed like they were really nice. There wasn't, aside from the, you know, maybe anti-push graffiti on the wall, there wasn't that much of an anti, necessarily anti-American or anti-pourism. It didn't even seem like they were bitter about the fact that there was so many tourism.

[25:28]

It was nice. They were all really friendly, whether or not it was... Whether or not their motives for business or just being friends. So, let's see. What did you, I guess, what did you learn or how was your perception of shade? Has it made you aware of anything, you know, that you're going to try to put on? Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Okay. Okay. It makes me... Well, I mean, it obviously makes me really grateful for the opportunities I had. And it also... It also gave me a really big opportunity because I still keep in touch with the people that I met. So it gives me an opportunity to help these people out, you know? And I have connections to, you know, people that you actually know and do something with your help.

[26:30]

And I think... I think that's really great because if I hadn't, that would still be an opportunity to help, but not with the same personal connection. And I think that's what I really enjoyed the most. It's just meeting people who were from there and learning about their experiences one in one. And I also come back with the... I feel more comfortable speaking Spanish. Well, that's good. Yeah, did you get to use that one? Yeah, that was great. Yeah, I was talking to little kids who were mumbly for a long time, so it was like, it was sort of difficult. I'm always intimidated. I'm always intimidated. I think I really did. I felt like, like when I was like, during junior year, and, you know, people would come in, you know, English. And I, you know, I mean, I could probably tell them, but I would be so afraid, and it makes a lot harder to speak, and I think it seemed really pathetic, and I sort of got over that.

[27:36]

That's great, yeah. Yeah. I figured, you know, so I don't care if somebody makes a mistake in English, but I figured they could probably take the final stage in Spanish. Yeah. So you learned, you say you learned about people's personal experiences, so like, you know, in the trees and in the street, or anything else? I don't know. Just like... I also... Well, I also got to see some... Some... Well, they have like Native people and I got to see some of that stuff and that was really eye-opening because don't... I mean, you can see it in National Geographic and see, you know, these groups of people and stuff, but when you actually get to see them and see them market and see them doing everyday stuff and I actually got to go into one of their houses and everything, it was just, it makes it so much more real.

[28:48]

I mean, it's obvious, but yeah. Very cool. So you sort of already answered it, but like what was fun and then what wasn't fun or was there something that was like hard period? What wasn't fun was getting sick. I got sick like the second night and I sort of ruined a couple days after that but not ruined but kind of fun with the bathroom but I don't know it was hard. It was really fun going around town and we went to like a dance club and that was sort of fun. It's definitely different in that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, just stop it. Like, what advice would you give someone who's going to visit another country and, you know, a little country? Okay, talk to people. It helps. It's so interesting. Just, like, I didn't, per se, I didn't really talk to that many strangers just because...

[29:55]

It's not, it's not, I mean, it's not exactly that easy for me to share this story in a foreign country. But my aunt was really, she was really, you know. So you guys still like your aunt? Yeah. So she was really like, you know, she would just talk to her and the people at restaurants. And you find a lot of interesting stuff when you learn about different people and what they've been doing, traveling. I mean, most of them speak English, so... I think you can learn a lot about that. By talking to a lot of other people, you also open yourself to opportunities to, you know, going around with them and seeing how they do stuff. Because people are really very open and willing to invite to places with them. I think that's it. Is there anything else you want to invite? I really hope that was...

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