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Mumonkan Case 36

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The discussion focuses on the practice of Zen in everyday life, emphasizing the concept of integrating Zen teachings into daily activities through sustained mindfulness and attention to the present moment. Central themes include the role of self-awareness in managing emotions like anger, the importance of appropriateness in teaching, and the nuanced understanding of karma and self. Additionally, there is a discussion on the experiences associated with deep spiritual practice, including facing the 'dark night of the soul' and the process of realization.

  • Mumonkan Case 36: This koan is used to discuss the law of cause and effect, illustrating the significance of karma in spiritual practice and how misunderstanding it can lead to continuous rebirth.

  • Hyokujo's Pack: Referenced in the context of karma, highlighting that even enlightened beings do not evade cause and effect, contrary to misconceptions that liberation implies freedom from karma.

  • Writings by Athletes and Musicians: These texts are noted for their insights into self-transcendence, similar to Zen practice, where practitioners lose self-awareness and merge fully with their activity.

  • John Buxven Dyson, "Blind Donkey": This piece is mentioned for its metaphor on dealing with distractions ('stone in your shoe'), emphasizing the importance of addressing immediate obstacles to maintain focus in practice.

  • David Hume: Cited in relation to his experience of existential emptiness, illustrating the challenging experiences that can precede significant spiritual insight.

  • Yasutani Roshi: His sayings are used to describe the process of realization as similar to clearing frosted glass, implying that enlightenment requires continuous effort to clarify and deepen understanding.

AI Suggested Title: Zen Living: Mindfulness in Every Moment

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Side: 3
Speaker: Robert Aitken Roshi
Location: City Center
Possible Title: Mumonkan Case 36
Additional text: 3 of 3

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Well, your feelings are outside yourself, you know. So there's no other way to deal with them than eternally. But that point aside, when you're practicing and you're full of anger, then anger is the context of your practice. It's your environment. So you're practicing your whatever it is, breath counting or your koan or hishkanthaza within that context of anger. You know, you have to kind of con yourself.

[01:23]

There is a difference between saying don't do that as teaching and don't do that as dumping. I see. So here again, it's a matter of appropriateness. If your mind is buzzing to such an extent that you cannot see the box to which you put the lid, then you're going to come forth and dump. That may be a learning experience. You may feel better afterwards, but the other person feels terrible. But the point is that it's again a matter of zazen, you see, so that you are practicing that way of peace as peace.

[02:32]

And you will be able eventually to cut that tape or at least quiet it down to the point where don't do that is really appropriate. And when it is something that is simply offensive or critical of you, you can take it as something that you can learn from. One of the first things Mr. Bly said to me was, When people say to you that you did something wrong there, and you knew you didn't do anything wrong there, you can accept it because you know you did something wrong over here. So being criticized is very useful. very useful. You know, Coach Chino can say again, you know, he said to me last year, when I meet a student in Dokdan, I am meeting my own master.

[03:48]

So this is, the student is one of the 10,000 things that are in front of him. You This is the only way. Only way. And so, somehow, this spirit must be integrated with the resolute understanding of what is appropriate here and what is not appropriate here so that you can come forth when it is accepted to say, don't be bad. And it is not dumb. So, I call it maturity. Yes. Speaking. How to do darshan when you're not on your pushing?

[04:56]

Yes. I think the practice away from one's cushion is the practice of attention to the task, or attention to what's happening, rather than attention to oneself. I'm trying not to pay attention to the fact that my foot is a cleat, but while I'm talking to you, and giving you as full attention as I can. But really, it's... It's... It's a matter of giving your attention to that one thing.

[06:07]

The Japanese have a very interesting use of the word samadhi. It's entered into secular language, zanmai. So there are all kinds of zanmai. Automotive repair, zammai, you know. Cooking, zammai. All kinds of zammai. Child care, zammai, and so on. All kinds of them. That is, I think, the practice of Zen in daily life. Now, this is true in recreation, it's true in sex, it's true in all kinds of daily activities. Forgetting yourself in the act of uniting with the matter at hand. You really have to forget yourself. And that's what the good work person is.

[07:10]

He's a person who forgets the self. And in the very so-called Zen art, you are just mixing, just mixing back in. Nothing. It's interesting to read writings by athletes, because they touch upon the things that we are talking about in Zen. Just catching the ball. Not conscious of lifting the leg at all. No sense of self-care at all. Or the musician finding the music is playing the music.

[08:13]

This is the devotion to the time. Yes. I was attending to the fact that I couldn't really... I was attending to myself. What was I attending to? I was attending to the pain in my legs, which was a very serious distraction at that moment. So that's an indication, you see, that it's an imperfect world. We say better than we do. If I had continued to try to express myself to you, I would have come to an end. And it... It's like John Buxven, Dyson, the former monk at BCLA, said in a piece that we published in Blind Donkey, if you're climbing a mountain and you get a stone in your shoe, you have to stop and take the stone out of your shoe before you can continue on.

[09:41]

Otherwise, a few yards Further on, you'll have such a pain in the foot that you won't be able to walk any further. And you won't be able to devote yourself to talk. So please understand that this is not the black and white matter. And this is why we practiced. We practiced, rather, in the Telephone is ringing and your child is screaming and someone comes to the door. And you have to get things in order before you can talk with devotion to the person that comes to the door. Otherwise, you'll get drowned out. We must understand that my words are intended to touch the point, but circumstances always enter in, and we must simply do the best we can in those circumstances to forget the self, to devote ourselves to the object of our attention.

[10:59]

No, no, you can't end karma. You can't end karma. There's no such thing. What is karma? Simply cause and effect. See? Now all this talk about purifying past karma is a matter of cutting our ties to karma. If you imagine that you are in the center, you are a sphere.

[12:02]

carrying all your past and all your future in that sphere. And you're at the very center, and that sphere is somehow moving in time. Okay. At any given time, a circumstance will appear. Inevitably, you will draw upon some past incident or influence to deal with this present circumstance, or to choose your option of action. You cannot act outside that sphere. I cannot bear a child, my beard will not get brown again, and so on. So, I cannot change any of that. At the same time, just because my mother beat on me when I was a kid doesn't mean I'm going to beat on my kid.

[13:16]

Even the victims of countless beatings freed from that connection free from that compulsion which rises from that connection, can choose any one of a number of different influences from the past to act compassionately. Because everybody has had millions and millions of these influences all different times. So that it is a very, very subtle kind of network behind it. And if we are tranquil and free and at ease with ourselves, then naturally we will, from the past to the present, identify the appropriate option for the future.

[14:29]

It seems to me that's the way karma works. Now, karma, of course, is a matter of time. So these past things that push on us and these unresolved matters that are continually festering and making themselves felt in unhealthy ways, are going to compel us to take an action that is not appropriate to the circumstance, but rather is expressive of something in the past. But if we are cut from that, then inspiration can rise in this moment, which has nothing to do with time. Let's rise here, and we can say, I will do this, I will not do that.

[15:34]

Just as much misunderstanding about karma as there is about self. And Hyokujo's Phak, you know, K2 of the Mumonkan, is very useful as a teaching of karma. the enlightened person does not evade the law of cause and effect. The old man in the story was reborn 500 times as a cock because he said that the enlightened person does not fall under the law of cause and effect. It's a rather complicated koan, you know, because all the teachings of early Buddhism that tell us that we must be purified of past karma so that there is no residue left over to be reborn.

[16:44]

So what was the old man's mistake? And why would she reborn five other times? And so on. All of these are co-important. Very useful. And really understanding karma as a function of true insight. We used to have, we don't meet them anymore, but we used to have the wide-eyed young thing come to our door and say, I don't know why I came here. My karma. Actually, in that sense, there is no such thing as karma. No such thing as cause and effect. Another question?

[17:50]

When the... Yeah, when the bottom falls out. Yeah. Then what? Well, then you might have breakfast. It depends on the second one. See, the point is that we might be looking at one of two things here. We might be looking at the dark night of the soul, at what James called the sick soul, where the essential emptiness is horrific, terrifying. It's what David called the valley of the shadow of death.

[18:57]

And this is a kind of religious experience that for some people precedes true insight. Some people withdraw at this point. David Hume saw into the emptiness of all things And he stepped back and took a pound of solar in a good game of backgammon with his friend. It's too bad, because that is one great chance. No matter how fearful it is, and no matter how lacking in trust in it, how dry and hopeless it seems, it's very important to keep in touch with the teacher and to keep on with the practice and go right to the path. But that's the dark night possibility in what you say. The other possibility is that it's realization itself, and it does not talk.

[20:02]

That is to say, you have a peek into the true nature of things, and you know where to go from there on to deepen and clarify. Who asked the question? Oh, I did. OK. Depends on the teeth. You know, sometimes it's only the barest glint, in which case it may be that you need to re-experience it. But generally, it's like Yasutani Roshi used to say, rubbing a clear place in a piece of frosted glass.

[21:10]

You look through that clear place, and that's essential nature, all right, but you need to clean up the rest of that trusted part, and maybe push off the glass itself. Then it's really unique in that religious experience, the beginning of practice. You begin with that piece, and then you can clarify and deepen your insight. Yeah. All right. That's why I graded 5-0-D. Thank you very much.

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